That is not how a free economy works. Pricing is something that the market dictates and Hatchette doesn't need to give in. It is their prerogative how they want to conduct their business. The fact of the matter is that neither the publishers or authors are happy with Amazon's position in the market. I haven't seen authors side with Amazon in this contract negotiations.
(I THINK Maestro64 was being sarcastic ... I could be wrong.)
The fact that Hatchette could go to Apple and sell their books through iBooks is exactly how the free market is supposed to work. Amazon is free to set their terms for providing distribution... and publishers are free to NOT use Amazon if they feel Amazon is being too onerous. Most publishers are willing to accept these terms, though, because they feel it is easier/cheaper than building their own digital distribution system... or more effective than going with the #2 digital distributor, iBooks. (The REAL #1 distributor being bit-torrent. )
(I THINK Maestro64 was being sarcastic ... I could be wrong.)
The fact that Hatchette could go to Apple and sell their books through iBooks is exactly how the free market is supposed to work. Amazon is free to set their terms for providing distribution... and publishers are free to NOT use Amazon if they feel Amazon is being too onerous. Most publishers are willing to accept these terms, though, because they feel it is easier/cheaper than building their own digital distribution system... or more effective than going with the #2 digital distributor, iBooks. (The REAL #1 distributor being bit-torrent. )
If Maestro64 was being sarcastic then I stand corrected. Ultimately I think Amazon is trying to flex a little too much. This isn't the first time this issue has come up and probably won't be the last. Amazon is the internet age version of Walmart.
If Maestro64 was being sarcastic then I stand corrected. Ultimately I think Amazon is trying to flex a little too much. This isn't the first time this issue has come up and probably won't be the last. Amazon is the internet age version of Walmart.
No need to "stand corrected" ... your post was still correct and I agree with you. I was just thinking that the quote of Maestro64's was taken too literally... I read it as sarcasm, thinking he'd likely agree with us.
And you can bet that this is all about Amazon's crap. Hachette wants folks to get the books. If Amazon loses sales cause folks went to iBooks, sucks to be Amazon.
SO then if Hachette can set the price this low this fast - they must be making a ton.
And you can bet that this is all about Amazon's crap. Hachette wants folks to get the books. If Amazon loses sales cause folks went to iBooks, sucks to be Amazon.
What part of 'Apple puts some Hachette ebooks on sale' is too difficult for you?
What part of 'Apple puts some Hachette ebooks on sale' is too difficult for you?
An Apple PR rep made a statement confirming the sale, but declined to comment on whether Hachette or Apple was responsible. So where's your proof that Apple is responsible for the sale prices? Surely you didn't take the title of this article as proof, did you?
Imo, yes. Next best. For me nothing beats going into a store or a library and getting a physical copy of a book. I flat-out despise e-books.
You know that is besides the point TS was making.
But I agree with you. I love buying physical copies of books - hardbacks, paperbacks, coffee table books, digests, comics, TPBs. Wherever I can, I stick to reading physical books.
Of course, when I am travelling, nothing better than my iPad Air. It holds hundreds of comics and dozens of novels.
It is a pity Apple still isn't selling books in India. I hope they start soon.
An Apple PR rep made a statement confirming the sale, but declined to comment on whether Hachette or Apple was responsible. So where's your proof that Apple is responsible for the sale prices? Surely you didn't take the title of this article as proof, did you?
Prove to me God doesn't exist. Prove to me Jobs never beat his wife. Ridiculous.
Nice try at redirection. Stay with the topic. I'm going with what was written. If the author was mistaken then the burden of proof is on you. Common sense would say that if Hachette wanted to give Amazon's competitors a leg up then they would've lowered the price at other ebook stores as well. The Nook ebook store would be a good place to start.
That was a "proposed" term and it specifically says end current agency model contracts - it says nothing about not being able to renegotiate new agency model contracts.
The fact is, they still use the agency model as they do in ALL their stores.
That was a "proposed" term and it specifically says end current agency model contracts - it says nothing about not being able to renegotiate new agency model contracts.
The fact is, they still use the agency model as they do in ALL their stores.
They had to tear up their agreements so we're not sure how they're doing, and Apple uses the wholesale model for TV/movies so it's not ALL their stores.
What part of 'Apple puts some Hachette ebooks on sale' is too difficult for you?
The part where it's just the title of the article that is merely explaining that Hachette books are on sale for pre-order in the iBooks Store. The author of the article doesn't know who set the prices, he's just pointing out that these titles are on sale.
Do you always read headlines as containing all the facts?
They had to tear up their agreements so we're not sure how they're doing, and Apple uses the wholesale model for TV/movies so it's not ALL their stores.
They don't use the wholesale model, they do set recommended prices and work out contracts with the producers (just as they did with the book publishers), however, that doesn't stop the production companies from setting their own price. Just look at the prices of some PBS shows.
The part where it's just the title of the article that is merely explaining that Hachette books are on sale for pre-order in the iBooks Store. The author of the article doesn't know who set the prices, he's just pointing out that these titles are on sale.
Do you always read headlines as containing all the facts?
Then why not title it 'Hachette ebooks on sale in Apple iBookstore'?
News flash: you can like ebooks and physical books. It's not a crime.
No kidding Einstein. Since your reading comprehension is obviously lax, what I said was that I prefer physical books over ebooks. That I prefer going into a store and getting a brand new book.
I never said anything about having to like one and only one.
News flash: you can like ebooks and physical books. It's not a crime.
No kidding Einstein. Since your reading comprehension is obviously lax, what I said was that I prefer physical books over ebooks. That I prefer going into a store and getting a brand new book.
I never said anything about having to like one and only one.
Smh
Your comment 'flat-out despise ebooks' deserved an appropriate response.
The part where it's just the title of the article that is merely explaining that Hachette books are on sale for pre-order in the iBooks Store. The author of the article doesn't know who set the prices, he's just pointing out that these titles are on sale.
Do you always read headlines as containing all the facts?
See the difference with this title, "EA begins huge iOS sale"?
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That is not how a free economy works. Pricing is something that the market dictates and Hatchette doesn't need to give in. It is their prerogative how they want to conduct their business. The fact of the matter is that neither the publishers or authors are happy with Amazon's position in the market. I haven't seen authors side with Amazon in this contract negotiations.
(I THINK Maestro64 was being sarcastic ... I could be wrong.)
The fact that Hatchette could go to Apple and sell their books through iBooks is exactly how the free market is supposed to work. Amazon is free to set their terms for providing distribution... and publishers are free to NOT use Amazon if they feel Amazon is being too onerous. Most publishers are willing to accept these terms, though, because they feel it is easier/cheaper than building their own digital distribution system... or more effective than going with the #2 digital distributor, iBooks. (The REAL #1 distributor being bit-torrent.
)
(I THINK Maestro64 was being sarcastic ... I could be wrong.)
The fact that Hatchette could go to Apple and sell their books through iBooks is exactly how the free market is supposed to work. Amazon is free to set their terms for providing distribution... and publishers are free to NOT use Amazon if they feel Amazon is being too onerous. Most publishers are willing to accept these terms, though, because they feel it is easier/cheaper than building their own digital distribution system... or more effective than going with the #2 digital distributor, iBooks. (The REAL #1 distributor being bit-torrent.
)
If Maestro64 was being sarcastic then I stand corrected. Ultimately I think Amazon is trying to flex a little too much. This isn't the first time this issue has come up and probably won't be the last. Amazon is the internet age version of Walmart.
If Maestro64 was being sarcastic then I stand corrected. Ultimately I think Amazon is trying to flex a little too much. This isn't the first time this issue has come up and probably won't be the last. Amazon is the internet age version of Walmart.
No need to "stand corrected" ... your post was still correct and I agree with you. I was just thinking that the quote of Maestro64's was taken too literally... I read it as sarcasm, thinking he'd likely agree with us.
Apple doesn't set the price. Hachette does.
And you can bet that this is all about Amazon's crap. Hachette wants folks to get the books. If Amazon loses sales cause folks went to iBooks, sucks to be Amazon.
SO then if Hachette can set the price this low this fast - they must be making a ton.
What part of 'Apple puts some Hachette ebooks on sale' is too difficult for you?
What part of 'Apple puts some Hachette ebooks on sale' is too difficult for you?
An Apple PR rep made a statement confirming the sale, but declined to comment on whether Hachette or Apple was responsible. So where's your proof that Apple is responsible for the sale prices? Surely you didn't take the title of this article as proof, did you?
Imo, yes. Next best. For me nothing beats going into a store or a library and getting a physical copy of a book. I flat-out despise e-books.
You know that is besides the point TS was making.
But I agree with you. I love buying physical copies of books - hardbacks, paperbacks, coffee table books, digests, comics, TPBs. Wherever I can, I stick to reading physical books.
Of course, when I am travelling, nothing better than my iPad Air. It holds hundreds of comics and dozens of novels.
It is a pity Apple still isn't selling books in India. I hope they start soon.
Hopefully this will end the comments about Amazon having a monopoly.
And where is the proof that they didn't?
Please. A logical fallacy? That's all you've got?
Prove to me God doesn't exist. Prove to me Jobs never beat his wife. Ridiculous.
Nice try at redirection. Stay with the topic. I'm going with what was written. If the author was mistaken then the burden of proof is on you. Common sense would say that if Hachette wanted to give Amazon's competitors a leg up then they would've lowered the price at other ebook stores as well. The Nook ebook store would be a good place to start.
No they don't currently sell eBooks under the agency model.
http://tidbits.com/article/13998
That was a "proposed" term and it specifically says end current agency model contracts - it says nothing about not being able to renegotiate new agency model contracts.
The fact is, they still use the agency model as they do in ALL their stores.
They had to tear up their agreements so we're not sure how they're doing, and Apple uses the wholesale model for TV/movies so it's not ALL their stores.
What part of 'Apple puts some Hachette ebooks on sale' is too difficult for you?
The part where it's just the title of the article that is merely explaining that Hachette books are on sale for pre-order in the iBooks Store. The author of the article doesn't know who set the prices, he's just pointing out that these titles are on sale.
Do you always read headlines as containing all the facts?
They had to tear up their agreements so we're not sure how they're doing, and Apple uses the wholesale model for TV/movies so it's not ALL their stores.
They don't use the wholesale model, they do set recommended prices and work out contracts with the producers (just as they did with the book publishers), however, that doesn't stop the production companies from setting their own price. Just look at the prices of some PBS shows.
Then why not title it 'Hachette ebooks on sale in Apple iBookstore'?
News flash: you can like ebooks and physical books. It's not a crime.
News flash: you can like ebooks and physical books. It's not a crime.
No kidding Einstein. Since your reading comprehension is obviously lax, what I said was that I prefer physical books over ebooks. That I prefer going into a store and getting a brand new book.
I never said anything about having to like one and only one.
Smh
Your comment 'flat-out despise ebooks' deserved an appropriate response.
See the difference with this title, "EA begins huge iOS sale"?