How is that a false concern, I love everything about Apple as a company, including their products, and their push for renewable energy sources such as solar. But it would be a half step if they build this magnificent structure and not include solar panels in its design. I'm assuming the rendered video shows what looks like solar panels, but not confirmed in any news released by Apple about the campus structural design.
What makes solar panels the right design for this particular building? Would you you still be disappointed if the building was completely powered by renewable sources but these sources were not solar?
It could be powered by wind or water, I would not mind at all, but societies in general really need to start tapping the almost unlimited potential in solar applications, Germany is making incredible strides in this direction. I'm just hoping Apple follows suit.
How is that a false concern, I love everything about Apple as a company, including their products, and their push for renewable energy sources such as solar. But it would be a half step if they build this magnificent structure and not include solar panels in its design. I'm assuming the rendered video shows what looks like solar panels, but not confirmed in any news released by Apple about the campus structural design.
As long as the power for the site is responsibly sourced why give a crap about the micromanaging details of where it comes from?
It could be powered by wind or water, I would not mind at all, but societies in general really need to start tapping the almost unlimited potential in solar applications, Germany is making incredible strides in this direction. I'm just hoping Apple follows suit.
Perhaps powered or supplemented with Bloom Energy fuel cells? Apple and Google both use these.
Awww, too short. I wanna cruse all around; pick an apricot off a tree.
The render is unrealistic in regard to the maturity of the landscaping in 2016. There's no way the trees would be that mature in two years time, when they haven't even been planted. It might look like this in 2030.
The apricots will be great some day. I hope they plant some Blenheims.
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What makes solar panels the right design for this particular building?
It's a lot of area -- unused space -- and it's pretty sunny in Cupertino. Remember, the Santa Clara Valley used to be one of the premier agricultural areas in all of the United States.
It doesn't rain that hard in Cupertino (the incoming storms typically dump a lot of moisture on the Santa Cruz Mountains, but once the storm clouds reach the valley, a lot of the moisture is already gone.
The climate is moderate, it almost never snows. I think the last time there was any accumulation on the valley floor was 1976 (maybe 1-3 inches), and even that melted by noon. Wind-related damage to solar panels is negligible since the Santa Cruz Mountains provide shelter (again why the valley was such an awesome agricultural zone).
Generally speaking the SF Bay Area is a great place for solar energy generation, apart from some of the foggier coastal areas, and even in those places the fog is typically seasonal.
Does any one remember that there was one land owner who refused to sell? Is that the property with the orange roof at the bottom right corner in the beginning and also in the foreground near the end?
The render is unrealistic in regard to the maturity of the landscaping in 2016. There's no way the trees would be that mature in two years time, when they haven't even been planted. It might look like this in 2030.
The apricots will be great some day. I hope they plant some Blenheims.
It's a lot of area -- unused space -- and it's pretty sunny in Cupertino. Remember, the Santa Clara Valley used to be one of the premier agricultural areas in all of the United States.
It doesn't rain that hard in Cupertino (the incoming storms typically dump a lot of moisture on the Santa Cruz Mountains, but once the storm clouds reach the valley, a lot of the moisture is already gone.
The climate is moderate, it almost never snows. I think the last time there was any accumulation on the valley floor was 1976 (maybe 1-3 inches), and even that melted by noon. Wind-related damage to solar panels is negligible since the Santa Cruz Mountains provide shelter (again why the valley was such an awesome agricultural zone).
Generally speaking the SF Bay Area is a great place for solar energy generation, apart from some of the foggier coastal areas, and even in those places the fog is typically seasonal.
In short, you're saying because it's sunny there.
On a similar topic, you should put solar panels on your roof as well. are you doing that?
The render is unrealistic in regard to the maturity of the landscaping in 2016. There's no way the trees would be that mature in two years time, when they haven't even been planted. It might look like this in 2030.
The apricots will be great some day. I hope they plant some Blenheims.
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That's purely a matter of economics: you can locate and select "specimen" trees that are fully mature at a lot more advanced stage than saplings. It's just a matter of what you want to spend. Another approach is the trees have all been purchased as less mature, and so less expensive younger trees and planted and are growing now in a nursery setting, being readied for transplanting when the site is ready. That's how they did the trees on the World Trade Center site. Between modern cranes and helicopter lift capabilities there are really few practical limits on what can be placed onsite.
Go out, buy up an orchard that's about to go under the development bulldozer and there ya go: instant mature orchard!
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How is that a false concern, I love everything about Apple as a company, including their products, and their push for renewable energy sources such as solar. But it would be a half step if they build this magnificent structure and not include solar panels in its design. I'm assuming the rendered video shows what looks like solar panels, but not confirmed in any news released by Apple about the campus structural design.
What makes solar panels the right design for this particular building? Would you you still be disappointed if the building was completely powered by renewable sources but these sources were not solar?
It could be powered by wind or water, I would not mind at all, but societies in general really need to start tapping the almost unlimited potential in solar applications, Germany is making incredible strides in this direction. I'm just hoping Apple follows suit.
You're inventing a false scenario based on absolutely nothing and pretending it would be "bad" for Apple to not meet the ludicrous standard.
No one cares. This doesn't matter.
Nope.
You're inventing a false scenario based on absolutely nothing and pretending it would be "bad" for Apple to not meet the ludicrous standard.
No one cares. This doesn't matter.
Nope.
Well thanks for the link, I stand corrected, this makes me very happy Apple did go with 100% renewable for the entire facility.
looks like all the building have solar panels on them....
This would be so cool if it was like the building from "The Jetsons".
How is that a false concern, I love everything about Apple as a company, including their products, and their push for renewable energy sources such as solar. But it would be a half step if they build this magnificent structure and not include solar panels in its design. I'm assuming the rendered video shows what looks like solar panels, but not confirmed in any news released by Apple about the campus structural design.
As long as the power for the site is responsibly sourced why give a crap about the micromanaging details of where it comes from?
Mandatory roof solar panels? Yikes.
It could be powered by wind or water, I would not mind at all, but societies in general really need to start tapping the almost unlimited potential in solar applications, Germany is making incredible strides in this direction. I'm just hoping Apple follows suit.
Perhaps powered or supplemented with Bloom Energy fuel cells? Apple and Google both use these.
Awww, too short. I wanna cruse all around; pick an apricot off a tree.
The render is unrealistic in regard to the maturity of the landscaping in 2016. There's no way the trees would be that mature in two years time, when they haven't even been planted. It might look like this in 2030.
The apricots will be great some day. I hope they plant some Blenheims.
What makes solar panels the right design for this particular building?
It's a lot of area -- unused space -- and it's pretty sunny in Cupertino. Remember, the Santa Clara Valley used to be one of the premier agricultural areas in all of the United States.
It doesn't rain that hard in Cupertino (the incoming storms typically dump a lot of moisture on the Santa Cruz Mountains, but once the storm clouds reach the valley, a lot of the moisture is already gone.
The climate is moderate, it almost never snows. I think the last time there was any accumulation on the valley floor was 1976 (maybe 1-3 inches), and even that melted by noon. Wind-related damage to solar panels is negligible since the Santa Cruz Mountains provide shelter (again why the valley was such an awesome agricultural zone).
Generally speaking the SF Bay Area is a great place for solar energy generation, apart from some of the foggier coastal areas, and even in those places the fog is typically seasonal.
IMHO, it would be great to work at Apple just to be able to work in that building.
I think it would be great to visit and tour this building. Personally I would not enjoy working in a structure that size.
The $54 trillion scam, you mean?
Where is employee and visitor parking?
Does any one remember that there was one land owner who refused to sell? Is that the property with the orange roof at the bottom right corner in the beginning and also in the foreground near the end?
Didn't want to sell: http://www.irvinecompanyapartments.com/Communities/The-Hamptons/
The building with the orange roof is the fitness center.
Where is employee and visitor parking?
Two decks under the ring and the two large buildings alongside the freeway
In short, you're saying because it's sunny there.
On a similar topic, you should put solar panels on your roof as well.
The two long, pill-shaped buildings, as well as underground.
None. Go away.
The render is unrealistic in regard to the maturity of the landscaping in 2016. There's no way the trees would be that mature in two years time, when they haven't even been planted. It might look like this in 2030.
The apricots will be great some day. I hope they plant some Blenheims.
....
That's purely a matter of economics: you can locate and select "specimen" trees that are fully mature at a lot more advanced stage than saplings. It's just a matter of what you want to spend. Another approach is the trees have all been purchased as less mature, and so less expensive younger trees and planted and are growing now in a nursery setting, being readied for transplanting when the site is ready. That's how they did the trees on the World Trade Center site. Between modern cranes and helicopter lift capabilities there are really few practical limits on what can be placed onsite.
Go out, buy up an orchard that's about to go under the development bulldozer and there ya go: instant mature orchard!