Because the BBC wants to restrict access to their content to Brits (and probably to Brits who have TV licenses)?
Most of the channels are locked the US. Adding one that's locked to the UK shouldn't be an issue, especially as users can now hide apps they don't want.
I don't see why having an Amazon Prime channel is any different than Netflix (besides Netflix not coming out with Tablets/Phones - but if someone wants to buy an Amazon Fire, why not tempt them to get an AppleTV by allowing them to watch content on it)?
I want an Amazon Prime channel for sure.
However- the difference between Prime and Netflix is that, in addition to streaming free, you can also purchase and rent shows on Prime- a direct competitor to iTunes. An educated guess would be that the holdup is Apple doesn't want the Prime app to have that ability, and Amazon does. Or, Apple just doesn't want Amazon's foot in the door.
The app store on iOS is a different animal- and thats why you can purchase content via the prime app on iPhone/iPad. It falls within the guidelines of Apple's app-store. Because the Apple TV doesn't have that- it's 100% up to Apple immediate discretion- not a simple guideline Apple creates for anyone who falls within that agreement.
The only way we see a Prime app on the Apple TV is with- 1) an app store. or 2) One that doesn't have the ability to rent or purchase
An app store removes any agenda Apple might have, and they simply just have standard requirements. Might not be good for Apple to have Amazon ... on their ATV, but it'd be good for ... consumers.
I think Bezos would be the one to object to Amazon on Apple TV.
If Amazon did allow an app there it would probably look something like this...
However- the difference between Prime and Netflix is that, in addition to streaming free, you can also purchase and rent shows on Prime- a direct competitor to iTunes. An educated guess would be that the holdup is Apple doesn't want the Prime app to have that ability, and Amazon does.
If Apple allowed purchases via Apple TV apps they would likely set it up like in the App Store: 30% commission. You think Amazon would agree to that? If not, then who's really the holdup? Just look at what they did to the Kindle app.
Personally, I find the content selection on both Netflix and Amazon Prime to be so poor that I wouldn't enjoy most of it even if it were free, but to each his own.
If Apple allowed purchases via Apple TV apps they would likely set it up like in the App Store: 30% commission. You think Amazon would agree to that? If not, then who's really the holdup? Just look at what they did to the Kindle app.
Personally, I find the content selection on both Netflix and Amazon Prime to be so poor that I wouldn't enjoy most of it even if it were free, but to each his own.
If I buy a movie in Amazon's prime app on my iPad- Apple doesn't get a cut from everything Ive read...
These new additions are (yet again) not available outside the US.
Apple is and wants to be an international company and a large proportion of its cash hoard is held overseas too (meaning it came from international customers) but the Apple TV remains so resolutely US centric, it is practically useless outside the US.
If iOS8 and Yosemite with Handoff and Continuity are planned to use the Apple TV as a major part of the ecosystem, Apple must up its Apple TV game outside the US.
These new additions are (yet again) not available outside the US.
Apple is and wants to be an international company and a large proportion of its cash hoard is held overseas too (meaning it came from international customers) but the Apple TV remains so resolutely US centric, it is practically useless outside the US.
If iOS8 and Yosemite with Handoff and Continuity are planned to use the Apple TV as a major part of the ecosystem, Apple must up its Apple TV game outside the US.
Curious- what competition does apple have internationally? Isn't Roku almost strictly US as well?
Curious- what competition does apple have internationally? Isn't Roku almost strictly US as well?
That does seem to be part of the problem. There just is a well developed premium streaming world outside of the US so the urgency to expand the ATV isn't there. Of course that could change rapidly should Google ever get it's act together and produce a box with apps that tie into the broader Android world.
The licensing issues are enormous with video and there are legal ones as well. In a way iPlayer is available to the ATV via AirPlay. Perhaps an App Store would partially address the local issues. It's not clear. App stores didn't help Google TV. If anything they only served to point out how different a TV is from a tablet. Even Amazon's Fire TV, which is interesting, is being cautious regarding apps.
More than apps the ATV needs something like an Amazon Prime for content. People seem to like the subscription all you can watch model such as Netflix. Maybe Apple should either start or buy a similar service for its customers.
The games' consoles have an international streaming presence and of course there's the high seas of video.
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Like their radio streaming. Are there any countries at all outside the US that have it?
OT, I know.
Because the BBC wants to restrict access to their content to Brits (and probably to Brits who have TV licenses)?
Most of the channels are locked the US. Adding one that's locked to the UK shouldn't be an issue, especially as users can now hide apps they don't want.
Because the BBC wants to restrict access to their content to Brits (and probably to Brits who have TV licenses)?
That's what VPN is for (at least on the web)...
I don't see why having an Amazon Prime channel is any different than Netflix (besides Netflix not coming out with Tablets/Phones - but if someone wants to buy an Amazon Fire, why not tempt them to get an AppleTV by allowing them to watch content on it)?
I want an Amazon Prime channel for sure.
However- the difference between Prime and Netflix is that, in addition to streaming free, you can also purchase and rent shows on Prime- a direct competitor to iTunes. An educated guess would be that the holdup is Apple doesn't want the Prime app to have that ability, and Amazon does. Or, Apple just doesn't want Amazon's foot in the door.
The app store on iOS is a different animal- and thats why you can purchase content via the prime app on iPhone/iPad. It falls within the guidelines of Apple's app-store. Because the Apple TV doesn't have that- it's 100% up to Apple immediate discretion- not a simple guideline Apple creates for anyone who falls within that agreement.
The only way we see a Prime app on the Apple TV is with- 1) an app store. or 2) One that doesn't have the ability to rent or purchase
1 seems much more likely.
An app store removes any agenda Apple might have, and they simply just have standard requirements. Might not be good for Apple to have Amazon ... on their ATV, but it'd be good for ... consumers.
I think Bezos would be the one to object to Amazon on Apple TV.
If Amazon did allow an app there it would probably look something like this...
Great, another update that only benefits US customers.
I don't think that that's for Apple to decide.
Foreign video and TV licensing deals is something that Apple does not have control over.
I want an Amazon Prime channel for sure.
However- the difference between Prime and Netflix is that, in addition to streaming free, you can also purchase and rent shows on Prime- a direct competitor to iTunes. An educated guess would be that the holdup is Apple doesn't want the Prime app to have that ability, and Amazon does.
If Apple allowed purchases via Apple TV apps they would likely set it up like in the App Store: 30% commission. You think Amazon would agree to that? If not, then who's really the holdup? Just look at what they did to the Kindle app.
Personally, I find the content selection on both Netflix and Amazon Prime to be so poor that I wouldn't enjoy most of it even if it were free, but to each his own.
JFYI They don't play 'soccer' in England, like every country (except the US) on Earth they play football.
If Apple allowed purchases via Apple TV apps they would likely set it up like in the App Store: 30% commission. You think Amazon would agree to that? If not, then who's really the holdup? Just look at what they did to the Kindle app.
Personally, I find the content selection on both Netflix and Amazon Prime to be so poor that I wouldn't enjoy most of it even if it were free, but to each his own.
If I buy a movie in Amazon's prime app on my iPad- Apple doesn't get a cut from everything Ive read...
That's very easily done.
Sure they do. The origins of the word 'soccer' is British, not American.
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/06/the-origin-of-the-word-soccer/
Really need a more functional interface.. to many icons to deal with.. needs a new format.
turn off all the ones you arent using, which are likely many.
I know they play rugby league, soccer is the one with the round ball.
I don't think that that's for Apple to decide.
Foreign video and TV licensing deals is something that Apple does not have control over.
BBC iPlayer is on Xbox, Playstation and most smart TVs. There is no legal or technical impediment stopping Apple from adding iPlayer.
Apple is and wants to be an international company and a large proportion of its cash hoard is held overseas too (meaning it came from international customers) but the Apple TV remains so resolutely US centric, it is practically useless outside the US.
If iOS8 and Yosemite with Handoff and Continuity are planned to use the Apple TV as a major part of the ecosystem, Apple must up its Apple TV game outside the US.
Curious- what competition does apple have internationally? Isn't Roku almost strictly US as well?
At least there's a cricket channel, so you can watch England lose at another sport besides soccer.
Heh. Well done. Any idea if that Cricket Channel is available in Canada?
Also, I've seen references on the Net to ABC being the first news network to stream like this. I don't think that's correct.
While it's not everyone's cup of tea (even moreso than Fox News), CBN News has been broadcasting 24/7 online for years.
That does seem to be part of the problem. There just is a well developed premium streaming world outside of the US so the urgency to expand the ATV isn't there. Of course that could change rapidly should Google ever get it's act together and produce a box with apps that tie into the broader Android world.
The licensing issues are enormous with video and there are legal ones as well. In a way iPlayer is available to the ATV via AirPlay. Perhaps an App Store would partially address the local issues. It's not clear. App stores didn't help Google TV. If anything they only served to point out how different a TV is from a tablet. Even Amazon's Fire TV, which is interesting, is being cautious regarding apps.
More than apps the ATV needs something like an Amazon Prime for content. People seem to like the subscription all you can watch model such as Netflix. Maybe Apple should either start or buy a similar service for its customers.
The games' consoles have an international streaming presence and of course there's the high seas of video.
Philip
I want to see Dishworld there!