Layer, a thickness of a material and "layer", or "someone who lays down" (as in lay and the suffix -er) vs. stander, "someone who stands up".
I get a real kick out of this kind of humor, even though it doesn't often translate with cognates. Heck, I love it in other languages. In Japanese, "[he/she]'s really into making shoulder massage tickets" can also be read "My shoulders tense up at the sight of this shoulder massage ticket."
Thumbs up! Danke.
OT: translations can really get funny: in HHGTTG in German they translate the strong Brownian motion generator "a hot cup of tea" by "a glass of cold beer". Sigh. They tried.
iphone does not have the best battery life anymore.
Yeah, and look at the size difference between the Huwai, which is all the way to the left on the picture, compared to an iPhone 5c, which is all the way to the right on the picture." src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
"That's besides the point. A high end smartphone should be able to last a full day on a single charge with normal use. My HTC phone can do this easily and it came out over 2 years ago."
Your statement is a terrible distortion. First I normally (easily) get a day out of my iPhone (5). If you play a lot of games or are constantly on the phone you may need to bump the charge during the day (and the 5 takes a "bump" charge -quickly-)
On the other part of your statement Android phones are notoriously bad on battery consumption. The only way your unnamed HTC could have better runtime than an iPhone (given similar configuration and use) is if it were double the size (to accommodate huge batteries necessary for the power sucking android operating system).
If you want to carry a brick around in your pocket fine (you and the other few dozen people who feel that way can), knock yourself(s) out, but the rest of the world wants thin and lightweight phones that can be easily pocketed and forgotten until they are needed.
I have a 5s and don't play games during the day but do use other types of apps that use heavy data usage. I have found that a battery case is a much easier option than trying to find outlets to "bump the charge" as you say. I am not around an outlet long enough to wait for that and plus that is far more inconvenient to me at least than having a slightly heavier case. In reality my battery case doesn't make my iPhone much heavier than one in an otter case or similar and those don't extend the battery. Glad your usage works for you but please understand you do not represent all of us. I want an iPhone to include a battery larger than 1560 mAh and I want it to last all day under normal usage.
Hardly. Construction workers, hospital workers that do not want to leave their phone plugged in an outlet because they are walking all over the hospital and want to have it with them, lawyers in court all day, employees who do not have an outlet anywhere near them, anyone working outdoors. It is a lot more people than you think. Not everyone sits in an office or cubicle with an outlet where you can charge your phone for an extended time. There are a lot of people that simply either do not have access to a charger or will not be near that outlet long enough to do much good. Apple used to be among the best at battery life but have allowed other companies to best them recently. I simply was saying that I hope Apple can retake the lead with battery usage again. I realize that the only reason the galaxy S5 wins that battle is because it uses a 2800 mAh battery vs. only a 1560 mAh battery in the 5s so for Apple to even get close it actually has won but ITRW the S5 lasts longer with actual use. Now that the iPhone 6 will be larger maybe we will also get a battery around 2500 mAh possibly which should give us far longer battery life even with a larger display.
Some people think longer battery life is "innovation" and forgot the size of the battery. The difficulty is to make a thinner phone without sacrificing battery life. That's Apple design philosophy.
Some people think longer battery life is "innovation" and forgot the size of the battery. The difficulty is to make a thinner phone without sacrificing battery life. That's Apple design philosophy.
I hope they go beyond simply maintaining battery life and instead manage to extend battery life by 2 or 3 or even more hours over the 5s. With an additional 2 hours I could likely forego a battery case for my iPhone 6 for the first time ever.
iphone does not have the best battery life anymore.
LOL...look at the battery size, my friend...your chart is like to compare a Truck with a small size sedan...oh yeah my truck can go for 500 miles without refueling while your small car can go only up to 300 miles...
OT: translations can really get funny: in HHGTTG in German they translate the strong Brownian motion generator "a hot cup of tea" by "a glass of cold beer". Sigh. They tried.
Well, they wanted to make it relatable. " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
What did they do for the "fairy cake" part in the sequel? And did they leave in the cricket references or did they rewrite the whole thing to talk about Brockian Ultra-Soccer? Oh, and don't forget the planet Sokker, home to the omnicidal Masters of Sokker.
Originally Posted by Just_Me
iphone does not have the best battery life anymore.
How about an actual comparison? Phones of the same screen size. Phones of the same battery capacity. Phones of the same capabilities.
Just_Me: "iphone does not have the best battery life anymore." (chart showing HTC M8 with just ~20% better battery life)
Even if I take those (dubious) figures at face value, you are making my case for me: The HTC M8 is nearly twice the size; at 96613 cubic mm (HxWxD) vs 55135 cu-mm for the iPhone 5, and it 50% heavier at 160g vs 112g for the iPhone 5.
Some people think longer battery life is "innovation" and forgot the size of the battery. The difficulty is to make a thinner phone without sacrificing battery life. That's Apple design philosophy.
Actually Apple is quite famous for function before form, although their form usually rocks too. In gwmacs case the function of the battery is not adequate. If they kept the inadequate battery in order to make it thinner that wouldn't be very Apple. Better to make it the same thickness and have adequate battery life. If gwmac is the exception and most iPhone users are happy with battery life, that's a different story.
That said I doubt either of you have anything to worry about, I think Apple will pull off both. Once the phone goes comfortably beyond a full days usage, battery life starts to become a non-issue and it is a nice problem to forget about.
I have a 5s and don't play games during the day but do use other types of apps that use heavy data usage. I have found that a battery case is a much easier option than trying to find outlets to "bump the charge" as you say. I am not around an outlet long enough to wait for that and plus that is far more inconvenient to me at least than having a slightly heavier case. In reality my battery case doesn't make my iPhone much heavier than one in an otter case or similar and those don't extend the battery. Glad your usage works for you but please understand you do not represent all of us. I want an iPhone to include a battery larger than 1560 mAh and I want it to last all day under normal usage.
I hear ya... but I think most all iPhone 5 users can and do get through the day just fine (on a single charge) and appreciate the svelte dimensions and light weight of the iPhone 5.
For the minority (who can't make it through the day on a charge) I would think most spend a half hour sitting somewhere (car, eating lunch, doing paperwork, etc) for the ones who can't (such as yourself) a battery backpack is a reasonable and viable option to lengthen runtime.
However, you need to realize that people in your particular situation are likely a very very small percentage of iPhone owners. To cripple the phone (by making it a bulky & heavy, like android phones) for a minority of users (who's problem can be solved by add on battery packs) just doesn't make sense.
Eventually, somewhere around iPhone 15 or 16, it will probably end up being as thin as a piece of paper. I wonder where the cut off point is, and at what point is too thin too much of a good thing, even if the tech is available to make it crazy thin?
The cut-off point is when it becomes too thin to be practical.
"That's besides the point. A high end smartphone should be able to last a full day on a single charge with normal use. My HTC phone can do this easily and it came out over 2 years ago."
Your statement is a terrible distortion. First I normally (easily) get a day out of my iPhone (5). If you play a lot of games or are constantly on the phone you may need to bump the charge during the day (and the 5 takes a "bump" charge -quickly-)
On the other part of your statement Android phones are notoriously bad on battery consumption. The only way your unnamed HTC could have better runtime than an iPhone (given similar configuration and use) is if it were double the size (to accommodate huge batteries necessary for the power sucking android operating system).
If you want to carry a brick around in your pocket fine (you and the other few dozen people who feel that way can), knock yourself(s) out, but the rest of the world wants thin and lightweight phones that can be easily pocketed and forgotten until they are needed.
iphone does not have the best battery life anymore.
The Ascend Mate 2 weighs roughly twice as much as an iPhone 5s. I am pretty sure if I added a battery case to a 5S I would come out way ahead in battery life and functionality.
The Ascend Mate 2 weighs roughly twice as much as an iPhone 5s. I am pretty sure if I added a battery case to a 5S I would come out way ahead in battery life and functionality.
You would be right. My 5s has a 1560 mAh battery and my battery case has a 2300 mAh battery for a total of 3860 mAh which more than doubles the battery life. Even under the heaviest of usages my iPhone is still usually going strong from early morning till very late at night.
Eventually, somewhere around iPhone 15 or 16, it will probably end up being as thin as a piece of paper. I wonder where the cut off point is, and at what point is too thin too much of a good thing, even if the tech is available to make it crazy thin?
Eventually Apple will be able to embed the phone in your skull cavity. There are always two directions with electronics as processes shrink. One the hardware becomes more powerful or two it becomes more efficient. Of course there is a middle path where they meld the two to deliver both power and efficiency.
I often laugh to my self when I see people posting about iPhone being powerful enough already. Too me that is baloney, anybody with a little imagination knows that the possibilities are boundless for these sorts of devices.
As for Apple im expecting to see a lot of new hardware from them in the coming years. By hardware I mean semiconductors tailored made to address different needs. In the end Apple needs to address a wider array of user needs with iOS devices.
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Thumbs up! Danke.
OT: translations can really get funny: in HHGTTG in German they translate the strong Brownian motion generator "a hot cup of tea" by "a glass of cold beer". Sigh. They tried.
iphone does not have the best battery life anymore.
Yeah, and look at the size difference between the Huwai, which is all the way to the left on the picture, compared to an iPhone 5c, which is all the way to the right on the picture.
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DroidFTW:
"That's besides the point. A high end smartphone should be able to last a full day on a single charge with normal use. My HTC phone can do this easily and it came out over 2 years ago."
Your statement is a terrible distortion. First I normally (easily) get a day out of my iPhone (5). If you play a lot of games or are constantly on the phone you may need to bump the charge during the day (and the 5 takes a "bump" charge -quickly-)
On the other part of your statement Android phones are notoriously bad on battery consumption. The only way your unnamed HTC could have better runtime than an iPhone (given similar configuration and use) is if it were double the size (to accommodate huge batteries necessary for the power sucking android operating system).
If you want to carry a brick around in your pocket fine (you and the other few dozen people who feel that way can), knock yourself(s) out, but the rest of the world wants thin and lightweight phones that can be easily pocketed and forgotten until they are needed.
I have a 5s and don't play games during the day but do use other types of apps that use heavy data usage. I have found that a battery case is a much easier option than trying to find outlets to "bump the charge" as you say. I am not around an outlet long enough to wait for that and plus that is far more inconvenient to me at least than having a slightly heavier case. In reality my battery case doesn't make my iPhone much heavier than one in an otter case or similar and those don't extend the battery. Glad your usage works for you but please understand you do not represent all of us. I want an iPhone to include a battery larger than 1560 mAh and I want it to last all day under normal usage.
Hardly. Construction workers, hospital workers that do not want to leave their phone plugged in an outlet because they are walking all over the hospital and want to have it with them, lawyers in court all day, employees who do not have an outlet anywhere near them, anyone working outdoors. It is a lot more people than you think. Not everyone sits in an office or cubicle with an outlet where you can charge your phone for an extended time. There are a lot of people that simply either do not have access to a charger or will not be near that outlet long enough to do much good. Apple used to be among the best at battery life but have allowed other companies to best them recently. I simply was saying that I hope Apple can retake the lead with battery usage again. I realize that the only reason the galaxy S5 wins that battle is because it uses a 2800 mAh battery vs. only a 1560 mAh battery in the 5s so for Apple to even get close it actually has won but ITRW the S5 lasts longer with actual use. Now that the iPhone 6 will be larger maybe we will also get a battery around 2500 mAh possibly which should give us far longer battery life even with a larger display.
Some people think longer battery life is "innovation" and forgot the size of the battery. The difficulty is to make a thinner phone without sacrificing battery life. That's Apple design philosophy.
Some people think longer battery life is "innovation" and forgot the size of the battery. The difficulty is to make a thinner phone without sacrificing battery life. That's Apple design philosophy.
I hope they go beyond simply maintaining battery life and instead manage to extend battery life by 2 or 3 or even more hours over the 5s. With an additional 2 hours I could likely forego a battery case for my iPhone 6 for the first time ever.
iphone does not have the best battery life anymore.
LOL...look at the battery size, my friend...your chart is like to compare a Truck with a small size sedan...oh yeah my truck can go for 500 miles without refueling while your small car can go only up to 300 miles...
Well, they wanted to make it relatable.
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
What did they do for the "fairy cake" part in the sequel? And did they leave in the cricket references or did they rewrite the whole thing to talk about Brockian Ultra-Soccer?
Oh, and don't forget the planet Sokker, home to the omnicidal Masters of Sokker.
How about an actual comparison? Phones of the same screen size. Phones of the same battery capacity. Phones of the same capabilities.
"iphone does not have the best battery life anymore."
(chart showing HTC M8 with just ~20% better battery life)
Even if I take those (dubious) figures at face value, you are making my case for me:
The HTC M8 is nearly twice the size; at 96613 cubic mm (HxWxD) vs 55135 cu-mm for the iPhone 5, and it 50% heavier at 160g vs 112g for the iPhone 5.
LOL
"allegedly make manufacturing more difficult."
Nooooooooooooooooo!!
This kind of s*** always happens, and It's death for AAPL stock.
iPhone 6 may not be thinner if the curved edge screen rumor today from Nikke actually is true. See new purported picture and judge for yourself:
Some people think longer battery life is "innovation" and forgot the size of the battery. The difficulty is to make a thinner phone without sacrificing battery life. That's Apple design philosophy.
Actually Apple is quite famous for function before form, although their form usually rocks too. In gwmacs case the function of the battery is not adequate. If they kept the inadequate battery in order to make it thinner that wouldn't be very Apple. Better to make it the same thickness and have adequate battery life. If gwmac is the exception and most iPhone users are happy with battery life, that's a different story.
That said I doubt either of you have anything to worry about, I think Apple will pull off both. Once the phone goes comfortably beyond a full days usage, battery life starts to become a non-issue and it is a nice problem to forget about.
I have a 5s and don't play games during the day but do use other types of apps that use heavy data usage. I have found that a battery case is a much easier option than trying to find outlets to "bump the charge" as you say. I am not around an outlet long enough to wait for that and plus that is far more inconvenient to me at least than having a slightly heavier case. In reality my battery case doesn't make my iPhone much heavier than one in an otter case or similar and those don't extend the battery. Glad your usage works for you but please understand you do not represent all of us. I want an iPhone to include a battery larger than 1560 mAh and I want it to last all day under normal usage.
I hear ya... but I think most all iPhone 5 users can and do get through the day just fine (on a single charge) and appreciate the svelte dimensions and light weight of the iPhone 5.
For the minority (who can't make it through the day on a charge) I would think most spend a half hour sitting somewhere (car, eating lunch, doing paperwork, etc) for the ones who can't (such as yourself) a battery backpack is a reasonable and viable option to lengthen runtime.
However, you need to realize that people in your particular situation are likely a very very small percentage of iPhone owners. To cripple the phone (by making it a bulky & heavy, like android phones) for a minority of users (who's problem can be solved by add on battery packs) just doesn't make sense.
Thing is, the images show a flat screen and curved frame.
The cut-off point is when it becomes too thin to be practical.
The Ascend Mate 2 weighs roughly twice as much as an iPhone 5s. I am pretty sure if I added a battery case to a 5S I would come out way ahead in battery life and functionality.
About time.
The Ascend Mate 2 weighs roughly twice as much as an iPhone 5s. I am pretty sure if I added a battery case to a 5S I would come out way ahead in battery life and functionality.
You would be right. My 5s has a 1560 mAh battery and my battery case has a 2300 mAh battery for a total of 3860 mAh which more than doubles the battery life. Even under the heaviest of usages my iPhone is still usually going strong from early morning till very late at night.
You're welcome to warp reality.
Eventually Apple will be able to embed the phone in your skull cavity. There are always two directions with electronics as processes shrink. One the hardware becomes more powerful or two it becomes more efficient. Of course there is a middle path where they meld the two to deliver both power and efficiency.
I often laugh to my self when I see people posting about iPhone being powerful enough already. Too me that is baloney, anybody with a little imagination knows that the possibilities are boundless for these sorts of devices.
As for Apple im expecting to see a lot of new hardware from them in the coming years. By hardware I mean semiconductors tailored made to address different needs. In the end Apple needs to address a wider array of user needs with iOS devices.