Rumor: Apple to boost 4.7" 'iPhone 6' battery by 15% over iPhone 5s

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  • Reply 81 of 128

    iPhone 6 will have same size battery as it have screen size. Apple introducing 4.7 inch display screen in next generation of iPhone so people can enjoy ease of smart phone.

  • Reply 82 of 128
    sockrolidsockrolid Posts: 2,789member

    Originally Posted by RPT View Post

     

    I don't think you are right that people don't care about this campaigns by Samsung. A standard theory in marketing is that criticizing competitors in general is not an approach that works well, and if not very cleverly done may backfire. Based on my assessment of these campaigns by Samsung, I would believe that Samsung may actually be loosing customers because of the stupidity.


     

    Good point.  And I'll add a quick tip for Samsung marketing:

     

    You mention Apple, you lose.  Unless you're Apple.

  • Reply 83 of 128
    rptrpt Posts: 175member
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    Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

     

    Of course I am the masses!  Most people can get through the day with their iPhone.  You think people would still buy an iPhone if the majority have a dead battery before they get home?  Or are forced to go sit in their car and charge it up?  Really?  You're going to argue that?

     

    You also fail to understand my argument.  Do I want more battery life?  Sure!  Do I want a thicker, and (more importantly)- heavier phone?  No thanks, unless it is a physically larger phone.  10 hours of continual use is enough for me.  Your 5000 iPhone people- I assure you- the majority are looking at Facebook, Instagram, and doing non-work activities.  Care to argue that?  I'd love to hear what all 5,000 people in your office are supposed to be using their phones for where they legitimately don't have enough battery life.  It sure as hell isn't simply talking.

    And a brick?  Hardly.  If its such a huge deal- all they need is a lightning cord and a USB plug.  Ya'll haven't dropped desktops yet, right?


    I do not want to argue that our employs occationally do other things with their phone than work, and so what; the phone is actually made for it, and were I live we pay tax for being fortunate to have a company phone so we never have to leave work. I actually do myself occasionally, like  when I spent hours upon hours on various airports recently, checked into a hotel at 5 am and was picked up 2 hours later for a full day of meetings, the entire trip not able to reach an outlet, and not bringing my laptop because this was one of the countries in the world where our security people does not allow us to bring a laptop (or more specifically a harddisk). Guess what? The iPhone died, and what saved the day was the old dumb-phone I also brought, and the fact that I had old-fashioned paper boarding passes for my return.

    To me and many of my colleagues, the time battery life in dumb-phones increased to the point that it was no longer a disaster to forget the charger is a time we fondly remember, and some of us, but correctly as you say not all, would gladly carry a few more grams to relive that time, even in the time of USB.

  • Reply 84 of 128
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    rpt wrote: »
    Please tell me what claims I made that I can not back up. As far as I can see I have not referred to Steve Jobs doing this or that (but why should that in itself be wrong?). And I do not believe that Tim Cook should be fired. Far as I can see I said that I (and a large number of my collegues (first hand, not hearsay!) would like more battery time, and that I would like a larger screen.

    I have used Apple products where available since the SE, and I don't like to be insulted by a relatively newcomer like you (albeit very productive), on this site.

    1) Those were examples of what may be seen as trolling. I have no specific recollection of what you've posted previously. If I had remembered you posting something that was trolling I would have been very specific and quoted those comments.

    2) Newcomer? Really?! :no:
  • Reply 85 of 128
    andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
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    Originally Posted by RPT View Post

     

    I do not want to argue that our employs occationally do other things with their phone than work, and so what; the phone is actually made for it, and were I live we pay tax for being fortunate to have a company phone so we never have to leave work. I actually do myself occasionally, like  when I spent hours upon hours on various airports recently, checked into a hotel at 5 am and was picked up 2 hours later for a full day of meetings, the entire trip not able to reach an outlet, and not bringing my laptop because this was one of the countries in the world where our security people does not allow us to bring a laptop (or more specifically a harddisk). Guess what? The iPhone died, and what saved the day was the old dumb-phone I also brought, and the fact that I had old-fashioned paper boarding passes for my return.

    To me and many of my colleagues, the time battery life in dumb-phones increased to the point that it was no longer a disaster to forget the charger is a time we fondly remember, and some of us, but correctly as you say not all, would gladly carry a few more grams to relive that time, even in the time of USB.


    OK- understandable.  So here's my follow-up:

    That seems like an extreme scenario- and one that might not be replicated.  If it is a common occurrence; however, might I suggest carrying a case with an external battery.

     

    I travel regularly- while not international, I do go; for example, to my Hawaii lab about 3-4 times a year.  For cases like that, I bought the following:

    Battery Bank - $23.99

    The reason I dislike the thought of sacrificing weight and thinness for a bigger battery is- in 99% of my life my battery life is fine.  I'd wager yours might be similar- or else you'd be so fed up you'd have tossed your phone in the dumpster already.  I'd rather not burden myself for that blue moon problem I have, when I can buy a $24 item that prevents me from ever running out of juice that 1% I travel a long distance.  Currently, you carry a dumb phone- probably weighs more than my battery bank.  ;) 

     

    I already know the rebuttal, and I get it.  "I shouldnt have to have a case with a battery or a battery bank- it should just have better life".  Ok, fine.  Thats understandable.  But for me, I want less weight.  If they can do it with more battery-efficient hardware and software, wouldn't that be a win-win for everyone?  Eventually we hit diminishing returns.  Someone, somewhere uses their batteries faster than you- so do we only go to the point where you're happy?  Or keep going until everyone is?

    Bottom line- it'll be improved annually- without sacrificing form, function, or performance- and I, for one, am ok with that.

  • Reply 86 of 128
    rptrpt Posts: 175member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

     

    OK- understandable.  So here's my follow-up:

    That seems like an extreme scenario- and one that might not be replicated.  If it is a common occurrence; however, might I suggest carrying a case with an external battery.

     

    I travel regularly- while not international, I do go; for example, to my Hawaii lab about 3-4 times a year.  For cases like that, I bought the following:

    Battery Bank - $23.99

    The reason I dislike the thought of sacrificing weight and thinness for a bigger battery is- in 99% of my life my battery life is fine.  I'd wager yours might be similar- or else you'd be so fed up you'd have tossed your phone in the dumpster already.  I'd rather not burden myself for that blue moon problem I have, when I can buy a $24 item that prevents me from ever running out of juice that 1% I travel a long distance.  Currently, you carry a dumb phone- probably weighs more than my battery bank.  ;) 

     

    I already know the rebuttal, and I get it.  "I shouldnt have to have a case with a battery or a battery bank- it should just have better life".  Ok, fine.  Thats understandable.  But for me, I want less weight.  If they can do it with more battery-efficient hardware and software, wouldn't that be a win-win for everyone?  Eventually we hit diminishing returns.  Someone, somewhere uses their batteries faster than you- so do we only go to the point where you're happy?  Or keep going until everyone is?

    Bottom line- it'll be improved annually- without sacrificing form, function, or performance- and I, for one, am ok with that.


    I do have several of the solutions like that, including a number of battery cases that no longer fit, so I have resorted to my old dumb-phone as backup. And change to what? My son's HTC is a pretty good piece of merchandise, and is has the larger screen that he wanted (and if he wanted a Samsung I told him to pay for it himself). The size was the reason he refused to have an iPhone, but battery wise it is not better, and it doesn't run iOS. I am perfectly happy with having the best phone available, but you very rarely see anything that is perfect and even the iPhone is not for my uses, only the best.

  • Reply 87 of 128
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by RPT View Post

    I have used Apple products where available since the SE...


     

    So what? I still have five Apple ][. Is my argument any more valid because of that?

     

    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

    2) Newcomer? Really?! image

     

    Hey, it was a pretty good joke. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> 

  • Reply 88 of 128
    crossladcrosslad Posts: 527member
    I have three mobile phones, an iPhone 4, Nexus 5 and Nokia 630. The iPhone's battery outlasts the other two and I have no doubt the battery life on the iPhone 6 will be better than all all of the previous iPhones to date.
  • Reply 89 of 128
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Originally Posted by NolaMacGuy View Post

     
    i typically charge my phone once a day and have never had to laugh at the battery because its lasted me 24 hours. sometimes more.


    Same here. I know this is an over generalization but I think people who routinely run out of battery before the end of the day have bigger problems than battery capacity. They need a better life. If you are never home and don't have a job with a power source and all you do is stay on your device all day then you should try changing your lifestyle not your phone. People who have jobs, home life, spend time parenting, in conversation with family, exercise, cook, dine, etc always seem to have plenty of battery left at the end of the day. Perhaps if you do have some battery heavy activities like gaming, mapping or video then I can see some power implications, but even with video Apple claims that iPhone 5s lasts 10 hours.

     

    An average waking day is 16 hours. I find it unusual that someone would spend 10 hours on the phone with high battery usage apps. Just a crazy way to live in my opinion, and with that and $3.00, you can get a cup of bad coffee.

  • Reply 90 of 128
    rptrpt Posts: 175member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    So what? I still have five Apple ][. Is my argument any more valid because of that?

     

     

    Hey, it was a pretty good joke. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> 


    I have seen a lot of your arguments, as I have seen Solips arguments and I don't believe they are good just because of membership seniority nor ownership of Apple products.

     

    However, even in a time with an abundance of commenters with single digits of comments and no seniority trolling here, I think a little bit more constructive criticism of Apple, and tolerance for that, could elevate this site.

  • Reply 91 of 128
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
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    Originally Posted by mstone View Post

     

    Same here. I know this is an over generalization but I think people who routinely run out of battery before the end of the day have bigger problems than battery capacity. They need a better life. If you are never home and don't have a job with a power source and all you do is stay on your device all day then you should try changing your lifestyle not your phone. People who have jobs, home life, spend time parenting, in conversation with family, exercise, cook, dine, etc always seem to have plenty of battery left at the end of the day. Perhaps if you do have some battery heavy activities like gaming, mapping or video then I can see some power implications, but even with video Apple claims that iPhone 5s lasts 10 hours.

     

    An average waking day is 16 hours. I find it unusual that someone would spend 10 hours on the phone with high battery usage apps. Just a crazy way to live in my opinion, and with that and $3.00, you can get a cup of bad coffee.


    Also it's not like a standard Apple wall charger and 2 meter cord weigh all that much: when I'm here at work I routinely plug it in (to a charger and cord  I just leave here), though there are also many days I can't bother, like today: and here we are: 3:45 PM, 41 minutes use, 5 Hours, 50 minutes standby and 87% indicated charge remaining.... 

  • Reply 92 of 128
    yojimbo007yojimbo007 Posts: 1,165member
    Lots of trolls... Paid by samdung here today ! It is so obviouse it is laughable !

    My 5s goes through a whole day of normal use and im left with 50 to 40% at the end if the day..
  • Reply 93 of 128
    shevshev Posts: 84member
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    Originally Posted by SockRolid View Post

     

     

    Nice try.  And welcome to Apple Insider.  We get plenty of newbies here.

    And plenty of trolls too.  Paid and not paid.  They're easy to spot.


     

    Troll... I've been reading this website for nearly a decade. It really isn't something so hard to believe. I've had my 5s run down after 4 hours usage regularly this year. 

  • Reply 94 of 128
    andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
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    Originally Posted by Shev View Post

     

     

    Troll... I've been reading this website for nearly a decade. It really isn't something so hard to believe. I've had my 5s run down after 4 hours usage regularly this year. 


    Have you considered taking it into the Apple store and having them run a diagnostic on it?  4 hour drains through regular usage are absolutely not normal.  What if it ends up being a rogue app as another user earlier mentioned?  Or if it's defective in some way?

     

    A personal note- my wife took her gold 5s in about 2 weeks ago that we got on release day in because the speakers were all muffled sounding.  She assumed it was because she has it in her sports bra when she does cardio and sweats (don't ask).  When they plugged it in- keep in mind this info is coming from my wife- the diagnostic said it had something defective that was draining the battery and he asked if she noticed her battery life was less than her old 5.  She didn't notice, but regardless, they replaced it without a question.

     

    So before you criticize, there is a distinct possibility yours could be defective- be it hardware or software.  40 million iPhones- theres gonna be some that aren't perfect.

  • Reply 95 of 128
    wizard69 wrote: »
    Honestly guys I have to shake my head when I see posts in these forums saying iPad is fast enough. It isn't even close even with run of the mill software I use. Hesitation is a bad thing. I see T as having low standards for acceptable performance if iPAd performance is seen as good enough.
    wizard69 wrote: »
    Come on Andy you can do better than this! I may not agree with it promise about battery life but A7 is not enough even for the current catalog of apps and OS behaviors. IOS 8 "might" fix some of the performance problems but then again it might not.

    Wiz -- Not arguing with you here, but what software are you seeing hesitation with? I have to ask that because I haven't encountered it on an iPad but I've seen it on other brands of tablets.

    That said, I'd buy the next iPad in a heartbeat because it will have something about it I want. ;)

    I know some users are looking for the A8 to be faster and may even use less energy. I don't know what we may see from a new chip but Apple wouldn't design a new chip unless it was going to deliver something to the user — or why bother?
  • Reply 96 of 128
    wakefinancewakefinance Posts: 855member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    The point is he's wrong and/or lying. The batteries have gotten larger, not smaller as the casings have gotten thinner.

    You're still missing the point. The point is that they could have been EVEN LARGER were it not for the quest for thin.
  • Reply 97 of 128
    shevshev Posts: 84member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

     

    Have you considered taking it into the Apple store and having them run a diagnostic on it?  4 hour drains through regular usage are absolutely not normal.  What if it ends up being a rogue app as another user earlier mentioned?  Or if it's defective in some way?

     

    A personal note- my wife took her gold 5s in about 2 weeks ago that we got on release day in because the speakers were all muffled sounding.  She assumed it was because she has it in her sports bra when she does cardio and sweats (don't ask).  When they plugged it in- keep in mind this info is coming from my wife- the diagnostic said it had something defective that was draining the battery and he asked if she noticed her battery life was less than her old 5.  She didn't notice, but regardless, they replaced it without a question.

     

    So before you criticize, there is a distinct possibility yours could be defective- be it hardware or software.  40 million iPhones- theres gonna be some that aren't perfect.

     


     

    Yeah, maybe it is a defective battery. Couple of screenshots I've taken recently. I personally don't find that acceptable for a smartphone in 2014 and I'm waiting for the '6' reviews to see how it's battery holds up against the competition. Continuity in Yosemite is the only thing keeping me from jumping to the One M8 right now if I'm honest.

     

     

  • Reply 98 of 128
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    You're still missing the point. The point is that they could have been EVEN LARGER were it not for the quest for thin.

    No, his point was that the battery was getting smaller. That's a lie. The fact that they could add a larger battery is so obvious it's stupid as no said that Apple couldn't. They choose to make their devices thinner whilst adding a larger battery. If you don't like that then don't buy from Apple or buy a Mophie JuicePack. They decide what they want to sell and you decide if you want to buy it or not. Neither of those are reasons for someone to make shit up.
  • Reply 99 of 128
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    shev wrote: »
    Yeah, maybe it is a defective battery. Couple of screenshots I've taken recently. I personally don't find that acceptable for a smartphone in 2014 and I'm waiting for the '6' reviews to see how it's battery holds up against the competition. Continuity in Yosemite is the only thing keeping me from jumping to the One M8 right now if I'm honest.

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    There is simply no way to tell from those screenshots but the fact that you have a single dot(bar) for your cellular strength does mean the phone is boosting the single strength which means the battery will be drained a lot faster. Any way to test your iPhone when you have 5 dots(bars)?
  • Reply 100 of 128
    shevshev Posts: 84member
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    There is simply no way to tell from those screenshots but the fact that you have a single dot(bar) for your cellular strength does mean the phone is boosting the single strength which means the battery will be drained a lot faster. Any way to test your iPhone when you have 5 dots(bars)?

     

    I'd normally have 3 bars all day and only 1 bar at home so don't think it's that. Don't think I've ever seen it hit 5 bars thinking about it.

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