Video purports to show flexible sapphire display cover for Apple's 'iPhone 6'

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  • Reply 21 of 34
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member

    In order for things not to break it have to have some level of ductility, For some reason people think things have to strong and firm not to break. However, things which are ductile tend to be soft so they mark easily, and things which are hard and not easily marked, are usually very brittle. It is a balancing act that is for sure. The question is did apple solve this problem, or its partner solved the problem.

     

    We all know if apple or its partner patented new material we would have all heard about it. I suspect if they did solve the problem the genius is in in the manufacturing process not the material, and if you do not want others to know it you never patent it, it becomes a trade secret.

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  • Reply 22 of 34
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    If they make the whole phone bendable we can still operate a 5.5" single-handed: Squeeze To Touch™ ¡
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  • Reply 23 of 34
    richard getzrichard getz Posts: 1,142member
    Quote:
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    Please get the entire video window visible within the original posts please! 

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  • Reply 24 of 34
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Richard Getz View Post

    Please get the entire video window visible within the original posts please! 


     

    Ah, I assume you have ClickToFlash installed, yeah? There’s nothing we can (or they will) do about it. Just download the video.

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  • Reply 25 of 34
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    That video tells me nothing about anything. Could be an Apple part with Sapphire. Could be an Apple part with Gorrilla. Could be a google phone part with neither. Could be a piece of plastic the video maker put together himself.
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  • Reply 26 of 34
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Legit?


    [VIDEO]
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  • Reply 27 of 34
    richard getzrichard getz Posts: 1,142member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    Ah, I assume you have ClickToFlash installed, yeah? There’s nothing we can (or they will) do about it. Just download the video.


     

    I'm talking about the video player not showing the right most controls due to sizing the embed window (at least that is my guess). All videos below the right advertising aside shows in full. 

     

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  • Reply 28 of 34
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,284member
    In addition to greater strength than glass, sapphire has better electrical properties for use in capacitive touch displays and can be used in thinner sheets for even better performance.

    A precision caliper gauge and scale could be used to ascertain the density of the cover to see if consistent with sapphire.
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  • Reply 29 of 34
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member
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    Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post





    Everything flexes to some degree so that means nothing. It is a question of how and when it breaks.



    As to a composite structure that is entirely possible as a lamination of Gorila glass and Saphire would be an interesting combo. That is if there are no thermal problems with such a lamination.

     

    More correctly stated, `Every material has a natural level of deflection on a stress/strain curve, and dependent upon the point of failure it's measure of deflection is linear. Once it goes beyond the measure of elastic deformation, it's plasticity kicks in and failure soon follows.'

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  • Reply 30 of 34
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    Legit?

    [/VIDEOCLIP]

    Good find. Wow, looks durable!

    Lol at his shirt; that was last years' number.
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  • Reply 31 of 34
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member

    Please get the entire video window visible within the original posts please! 

    In order to view the whole video width you'll need to watch it on the home page of AI, which has all these nasty ads. I therefore got a subscription for their free app, but the comment section doesn't really work in that app. To make matters worse, they have removed the 'view this article on Appleinsider.com' link at the bottom of the article in the thread, so you'll have to go to the homepage and find the article yourself, which can be annoying if it's a day old and many articles are above it.

    "Huddler Lifestyle"
    Even though they have no Style. At all.
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  • Reply 32 of 34
    richard getzrichard getz Posts: 1,142member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post





    In order to view the whole video width you'll need to watch it on the home page of AI, which has all these nasty ads. I therefore got a subscription for their free app, but the comment section doesn't really work in that app. To make matters worse, they have removed the 'view this article on Appleinsider.com' link at the bottom of the article in the thread, so you'll have to go to the homepage and find the article yourself, which can be annoying if it's a day old and many articles are above it.



    "Huddler Lifestyle"

    Even though they have no Style. At all.

     

    Sounds like a M$ UX to me :( 

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  • Reply 33 of 34
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
    maestro64 wrote: »
    In order for things not to break it have to have some level of ductility, For some reason people think things have to strong and firm not to break. However, things which are ductile tend to be soft so they mark easily, and things which are hard and not easily marked, are usually very brittle. It is a balancing act that is for sure. The question is did apple solve this problem, or its partner solved the problem.

    We all know if apple or its partner patented new material we would have all heard about it. I suspect if they did solve the problem the genius is in in the manufacturing process not the material, and if you do not want others to know it you never patent it, it becomes a trade secret.

    It's complicated, because we're not really talking about extreme bendability, but rather, resistance to stress induced cracking, which isn't exactly the same thing. After all, Gorilla glass has been shown to break fairly easily. Hard also means strong. Whether that also points to brittleness relies on a number of factors such as the structure of the material, and bonding strength of the atoms.

    For example, as used in tooling, tungsten carbide is more brittle than high speed steel, but it's also much stronger and harder. It will break where HSS will bend, but at the point at which HSS will bend, TC is just fine, and will break at a much higher stress level. Comparing glass to crystal is fair, but the characteristics are different.amorphous materials are very different from crystalline ones.
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  • Reply 34 of 34
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
    More correctly stated, `Every material has a natural level of deflection on a stress/strain curve, and dependent upon the point of failure it's measure of deflection is linear. Once it goes beyond the measure of elastic deformation, it's plasticity kicks in and failure soon follows.'

    If you really want to get technical, we should be talking about grain boundary failure
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