Want to see that Intuit Campbell guy go and VP Gore. The others I don't know but Campbell was a friend of Steve, but he's a jerk at running Intuit and keep the Mac platform behind as far as possible. Gore? What possible contribution has he made, even if we are talking political clout. Zero.
In complete agreement - Campbell should have been ousted before Eric Schmidt of Google, his flagrant lack of support for Apple products from Intuit is unconscionable from a board member. I've not voted for Campbell on a proxy statement since the Quicken Essentials fiasco. For Gore, he's a token something (?) what he brings to the table other than Washington connections is questionable.
In complete agreement - Campbell should have been ousted before Eric Schmidt of Google, his flagrant lack of support for Apple products from Intuit is unconscionable from a board member. I've not voted for Campbell on a proxy statement since the Quicken Essentials fiasco. For Gore, he's a token something (?) what he brings to the table other than Washington connections is questionable.
Apparently Gore is a Google advisor as well so that's reason alone to get rid of him.
At least four times a year, in companies like Apple. The average Fortune 500 board member spends about one month worth of company-related work. Post-SOx, boards have a major say in what goes on in companies.
According to the 1997 Director Stock Option Plan each director who is not an employee is initially granted 30,000 shares of stock on their initial election and become vested in equal installments on each of the first three anniversaries on the fourth anniversary they are granted another 10,000 shares fully vested and immediately exercisable at the pre split price that's $6M before taxes. I've worked over 40 years and haven't made what these guys make for a months worth of actual work. What's worse almost everyone (except Arthur Levinson) of those board members cashes that option in its entirety the day it's granted never saving any for appreciation (where's their faith in the company they govern).
Board current ownership 2/01/14 pre-split last reported board transactions
Arthur Levinson - 162,698 (5/30/14)
Ronald Sugar - 1,718
Andrea Jung - 1,610
Robert Iger - 5,541
Al Gore. - 62,523
Millard Drexler - 1,533
William Campbell - 2,523
What Cook should have said is that he's no Steve Jobs, doesn't really have any interesting ideas or goals, and will carry the ball and collect ridiculous sums of payola, until the numbers, shareholders, or boredom force him out.
What Cook should have said is that he's no Steve Jobs, doesn't really have any interesting ideas or goals, and will carry the ball and collect ridiculous sums of payola, until the numbers, shareholders, or boredom force him out.
Because of what I said. Apple should have board members experienced in technology or running large corporations. But outside of politics why do you think Gore should stay?
Hey genius, who the hell do you think made sure DARPA, ARPANET and the rest got funding? Senator Al Gore. There is a reason he's properly credited with making the Web happen.
Hey genius, who the hell do you think made sure DARPA, ARPANET and the rest got funding? Senator Al Gore. There is a reason he's properly credited with making the Web happen.
Yes my argument is I think there are others that know more about technology and running large corporations. And Gore's political connections certainly didn't help Apple with the DOJ.
Interesting, the Internet started at PARC? Funny how culture works. You would think this would be widely known; like the GUI being invented at PARC.
I was just talking to a colleague who used ARPAnet in the late 70s. He was an engineering grad student at the University of Utah, which was one of three schools on ARPAnet. He said the first full resolution picture sent over ARPAnet was a naked lady. It took forever to transfer. (brings new meaning to tantalizing). My comment to him was, "It should have been obvious how to make money on the internet." He missed the boat on that one.
Getting back to the WSJ article...it's clear that the media meme is a no-win situation for Cook. On the one hand they complain about lack of innovation and no new products, but then on the other hand they dismiss new products as not being enough to "move the needle" on Apple's $170B revenue base and find anonymous quotes from current and former Apple employees that the company is working on too many things, spreading itself too thin and losing its laser focus. Like John Gruber said, Cook is basically dammed if he does, dammed if he doesn't. Such bullshit. :rolleyes:
Hey genius, who the hell do you think made sure DARPA, ARPANET and the rest got funding? Senator Al Gore. There is a reason he's properly credited with making the Web happen.
If you don't believe Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn then you truly are too dense for words.
I doubt whether Al Gore has given up on what I think is his best idea: A set of orbiting real-time observatories aimed at Earth, designed solely to give is live picture of the planet at all times, no strings, open to anyone with a screen. At least that's how I remember it. Since things like Oculus are on their way, there are obvious enhancements to be made to his original idea.
This is one reason why I think Apple has a space program in its future.
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Algorithms were named after him for a reason. Duh¡
Haha. Never saw that before. Sounds like something Beats could run with. Al Gore Rythms!
Gassee has too much history with Apple, I don't think it'd be good to bring him back. And I suspect Musk would decline due to being busy.
I hear Alan Mullaly is available now, though he's not exactly young...
In complete agreement - Campbell should have been ousted before Eric Schmidt of Google, his flagrant lack of support for Apple products from Intuit is unconscionable from a board member. I've not voted for Campbell on a proxy statement since the Quicken Essentials fiasco. For Gore, he's a token something (?) what he brings to the table other than Washington connections is questionable.
Levinson is still there isn't he?
Apparently Gore is a Google advisor as well so that's reason alone to get rid of him.
Damn, is he really?
I didn't know that. Now that is definitely a good reason to dump that guy.
According to the 1997 Director Stock Option Plan each director who is not an employee is initially granted 30,000 shares of stock on their initial election and become vested in equal installments on each of the first three anniversaries on the fourth anniversary they are granted another 10,000 shares fully vested and immediately exercisable at the pre split price that's $6M before taxes. I've worked over 40 years and haven't made what these guys make for a months worth of actual work. What's worse almost everyone (except Arthur Levinson) of those board members cashes that option in its entirety the day it's granted never saving any for appreciation (where's their faith in the company they govern).
Board current ownership 2/01/14 pre-split last reported board transactions
Arthur Levinson - 162,698 (5/30/14)
Ronald Sugar - 1,718
Andrea Jung - 1,610
Robert Iger - 5,541
Al Gore. - 62,523
Millard Drexler - 1,533
William Campbell - 2,523
Here. You’re welcome.
Everyone in the comments section missed this part. Calm your balls dudes...
Because of what I said. Apple should have board members experienced in technology or running large corporations. But outside of politics why do you think Gore should stay?
Hey genius, who the hell do you think made sure DARPA, ARPANET and the rest got funding? Senator Al Gore. There is a reason he's properly credited with making the Web happen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology#Congressional_work_and_Gore_Bill
If you don't believe Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn then you truly are too dense for words.
"New Blood" as in ... we've not had many original ideas lately. If it wasn't for Ive, we would be more like the faded Sony than Apple.
Nothing in your link is at odds with what the smart folks here keep trying to explain to you.
Yes my argument is I think there are others that know more about technology and running large corporations. And Gore's political connections certainly didn't help Apple with the DOJ.
As far as the internet goes...http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390444464304577539063008406518
Interesting, the Internet started at PARC? Funny how culture works. You would think this would be widely known; like the GUI being invented at PARC.
I was just talking to a colleague who used ARPAnet in the late 70s. He was an engineering grad student at the University of Utah, which was one of three schools on ARPAnet. He said the first full resolution picture sent over ARPAnet was a naked lady. It took forever to transfer. (brings new meaning to tantalizing). My comment to him was, "It should have been obvious how to make money on the internet." He missed the boat on that one.
Michael Hiltzik, whose book Crovitz cited, counters the WSJ article.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/23/news/la-mo-who-invented-internet-20120723
I doubt whether Al Gore has given up on what I think is his best idea: A set of orbiting real-time observatories aimed at Earth, designed solely to give is live picture of the planet at all times, no strings, open to anyone with a screen. At least that's how I remember it. Since things like Oculus are on their way, there are obvious enhancements to be made to his original idea.
This is one reason why I think Apple has a space program in its future.
Oh yeah, and I agree with your last sentence.