Apple loses voice recognition patent suit in China, faces legal challenges over Siri

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  • Reply 21 of 34
    dewmedewme Posts: 6,115member
    It looks like Apple will have to open up its checkbook on this one. In the US we have the Poweball and MegaMillions. In China it's the SueApple lottery.

    It would be nice if the untold billions that companies lose to the Chinese counterfeiting industry would be addressed by the People's Court.

    Judge Wapner isn't doing his job if you ask me.
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  • Reply 22 of 34
    coolfactorcoolfactor Posts: 2,413member
    The Chinese app's design is mimicking Apple's Siri... why would they do that if they were first and better? Hmmmm.....
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  • Reply 23 of 34
    singularitysingularity Posts: 1,328member
    IP searches in China are an effing nightmare (I know as I've had to do them for work).

    Is it just a language barrier or is their patent system just hard to search?
    Both, if you think English legalese can be obscure try it with Chinese when the term you use in English can have multiple words in Cantonese and mandarin. Use the wrong term and you can miss so so much and it can be the one you miss is the one that bites you bad. What you hope is that when competitors file they also file a comprehensive English translation but they don't always and of course facilitation "fees" can rear there ugly head.
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  • Reply 24 of 34
    d4njvrzfd4njvrzf Posts: 797member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post





    Does Google make Google Now available in China? From what I've found in a quick search they do not.

    Does Google still exist in China? I thought they basically moved all operations to Hong Kong after the Gmail hacking incident.

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  • Reply 25 of 34
    frankiefrankie Posts: 381member
    Its a communist country, the court is an arm of the state and will rule whichever way it is told to. It is used as a weapon of business and profit not the rule of law. 

    So what's the difference where in America the rich basically tell the court and politicians what to do?
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  • Reply 26 of 34
    singularitysingularity Posts: 1,328member
    frankie wrote: »
    Its a communist country, the court is an arm of the state and will rule whichever way it is told to. It is used as a weapon of business and profit not the rule of law. 

    So what's the difference where in America the rich basically tell the court and politicians what to do?
    In America you have the illusion of freedom. In China you have the freedom from that illusion.
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  • Reply 27 of 34
    gilly33gilly33 Posts: 444member
    Don't worry Apple Zhizhen will let you know how much they want to fill their coffers. Big effing surprise court sided against Cupertino.
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  • Reply 28 of 34
    jameskatt2jameskatt2 Posts: 722member

    Apple, Tim, just buy Nuance for God's sake.  

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  • Reply 29 of 34
    lightknightlightknight Posts: 2,312member
    @gatorguy This might be just to word things in a chinese-friendly way. Cook understands their need to "save face".
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  • Reply 30 of 34
    lightknightlightknight Posts: 2,312member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DewMe View Post



    It looks like Apple will have to open up its checkbook on this one. In the US we have the Poweball and MegaMillions. In China it's the SueApple lottery.





    Judge Wapner isn't doing his job if you ask me.

    It's just a cost to running operations in China. They sell for billions of smartphones in Greater China, and on top of that they get cheap labor for building them. A "small" check to the appropriate officials and "blatantly-infringed" companies doesn't matter on the grand scale of things.

     

    Also, if you look at business in Europe, Russia, America... you know, we're talking of places where "interesting" things like Monsanto, l'Oreal, or British Petroleum (oh, them. I don't even KNOW where to start. Rhodesia, maybe.) are allowed to actually operate.

     

    Law, judges, courts. They exist, like the police, to settle things between huge companies that can afford armies of lawyers, and to keep peace in the streets, not to actually make life fair.

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  • Reply 31 of 34
    applezillaapplezilla Posts: 941member

    It's time to totally separate Apple from Asia.

     

    Criminal fascists from China and Korea cannot be trusted.

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  • Reply 32 of 34
    freerangefreerange Posts: 1,597member
    d4njvrzf wrote: »
    Does Google still exist in China? I thought they basically moved all operations to Hong Kong after the Gmail hacking incident.

    I currently live in China and Google is effectively blocked here across their entire product line. Even google translate now requires use of VPN to work, a recent change. Google pulling out of China was one of the dumbest business moves in history IMHO.
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  • Reply 33 of 34
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by FreeRange View Post

    Google pulling out of China was one of the dumbest business moves in history IMHO.

     

    Not bowing to the whims of a communist dictatorship killing off its entire population was… oh, you said business move. Carry on.

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  • Reply 34 of 34
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    freerange wrote: »
    I currently live in China and Google is effectively blocked here across their entire product line. Even google translate now requires use of VPN to work, a recent change. Google pulling out of China was one of the dumbest business moves in history IMHO.

    Except for the whole Android thing...
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