Former White House Press Secretary Carney still considering Apple PR role, Bloomberg says

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  • Reply 141 of 230
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 31,407member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    Oh, are we doing these now? I enjoy them.


     

    Love those... <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 142 of 230
    mgsarchmgsarch Posts: 50member
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    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

     

    Because I won't give money to a company that would hire a liar and political hack like Carney. If Target hired him I'd stop shopping there. I'm not a fan of Amazon or Jeff Bezos (for various reasons) so I don't shop on Amazon.com, don't have a prime membership and don't use any of their apps.


    You equate the CEO of Amazon to a face of PR? Anyway, thank you for that irrelevant story about Jeff Bezos and your non-answer to my question about why a PR appointment should have any implication on your decisions regarding technology purchases... It seems like your reasoning is purely emotional (likely partisan) and informed by your own opinions. Opinions whose basis you cannot even articulate without citing more (seemingly baseless) opinions. Interesting...

  • Reply 143 of 230
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,696member
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    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

     

    Intentionally ironic?


     

    Obama has played way more golf than Bush ever did.

     

    And Bush gave up golf in solidarity with the troops while he was President, do you remember that? What has Obama given up? Even tragic world events doesn't keep Obama from fundraising. He's in campaign mode 24-7-365, while he should be acting like a President instead. 

  • Reply 144 of 230
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,696member
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post



    Apple ][ has repeatedly shown he's intolerant of people that are less affluent, have a culture and are of a different nationality. You're probably going to get a disgusting answer you don't want to read.

     

    Not true at all. I am not against people of different nationalities, only certain ones. And I am not against all other cultures, only certain ones. And I don't necessarily have anything against poor people and ignorant people, as long as I don't have to interact with them, and they don't bother me or attempt to leech off of me.

  • Reply 145 of 230
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,179member
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    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

     

    I also have a message for the liberal girly men on here who claim that this is no big deal. The message i have for these hypocrites is that they are full of shit, and everybody knows damn well that they would wet their panties if this same situation were reversed, and Apple were hiring a spokesperson from the Bush admin for example.

     

    So spare me from your bullshit and your hypocrisy, you hypocritical liberals.


     

    Wow, what a nasty, toxic post - par for the course for you. You're really attacking people on hypocrisy? Everyone knows you'd have no problem with this hire if this guy was a Bush PR flack. The ONLY reason you're riled up is that Carney worked for the Obama administration. Also, liberals are "girly men"? Are you fucking 8?

  • Reply 146 of 230
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Obama has played way more golf than Bush ever did.

     

    And Bush gave up golf in solidarity with the troops while he was President, do you remember that? What has Obama given up? Even tragic world events doesn't keep Obama from fundraising. He's in campaign mode 24-7-365, while he should be acting like a President instead. 





    "I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf," he said. "I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."



    Bush said he made that decision after the August 2003 bombing of the United Nations headquarters in Baghdad, which killed Sergio Vieira de Mello, the top U.N. official in Iraq and the organization's high commissioner for human rights.

    "I remember when de Mello, who was at the U.N., got killed in Baghdad as a result of these murderers taking this good man's life," he said. "I was playing golf -- I think I was in central Texas -- and they pulled me off the golf course and I said, 'It's just not worth it anymore to do.'"

     

    In fact, Bush went golfing two months after the bombing the UN headquarters, and Keith Olbermann found the video:

  • Reply 147 of 230
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    apple ][ wrote: »
    I don't necessarily have anything against poor people […] as long as I don't have to interact with them...

    I guess you proved me wrong¡
  • Reply 148 of 230
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,696member
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    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

     

    Wow, what a nasty, toxic post - par for the course for you. You're really attacking people on hypocrisy? Everyone knows you'd have no problem with this hire if this guy was a Bush PR flack. The ONLY reason you're riled up is that Carney worked for the Obama administration. Also, liberals are "girly men"? Are you fucking 8?


     

    I would love for Apple to hire a PR person connected to Bush, only to see the laughable and hypocritical liberal reactions to it.

     

    But I am smart enough to know that it would be a terrible idea and it would be an extremely stupid business decision for any company to hire somebody who is guaranteed to cause controversy. 

  • Reply 149 of 230
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,696member
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    Originally Posted by mstone View Post

     

    In fact, Bush went golfing two months after the bombing the UN headquarters, and Keith Olbermann found the video:


     

    To be honest, I don't care much for the UN or any casualties that they might suffer.

  • Reply 150 of 230
    On that note, your departure would also be appreciated. It boggles the mind that people are allowed to say they will leave Apple if Apple does whatever and are allowed to not do exactly what they say. When someone holds them accountable people like you defend them.

    I own Apple stock as well and am not planning to stop being an Apple customer due to me not understanding exactly what Apple is doing. But people like Rogifan are stating they will leave Apple. I am asking them to adhere to what they are stating. Why is that considered wrong?

    Has it become okay that people write lies instead of truths these days?

    I am rooting for Tim Cook. Check out my posts to see where I stand on this point. I have not been duplicitous with my posts. Rogifan and others have been with their posts. Why are you defending her statement to leave Apple when you know it is a lie?

    What have I said to deserve a sending off? I didn't even say I wanted you gone, but simply used your own logic against you. Please tell me hyperbole is not to hard a concept for you. All these people are merely expressing a) their extreme distaste for Carney or b) their fervent belief that this won't happen, a belief so strong that they hyperbolically say they would leave if it happen.

    To claim obvious hyperbole as lies would consign the president (and essentially every politician of any party) to constant accusations of lying. It's above most people. Why can't it be above you?
  • Reply 151 of 230
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

     

    But I am smart enough to know that it would be a terrible idea and it would be an extremely stupid business decision for any company to hire somebody who is guaranteed to cause controversy. 


    I would suggest that 99% of the US population does not even know who Jay Carney is, because they are completely unaware of current events due to their preoccupation with Facebook and reality shows. If it is not on Opera or the evening TV news it is not controversial. Nobody except ditto heads give a damn and even they are only superficially disgusted because they were told to be not because they can think for themselves.

  • Reply 152 of 230

    AppleInsider has kicked over the anthill and now all the ants are running around all mad. They did it for the click traffic.

    :)

  • Reply 153 of 230

    There is NO WAY Apple is this stupid.   Jay Carney is toxic and there are few if any folks in either political party that would appreciate what he has to say.   He spent years telling stories that EVERYONE knows were flat out lies.  Hope he got a great retirement from the government or that MSNBC still makes enough money to hire him.

  • Reply 154 of 230
    mpantonempantone Posts: 1,429member
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    Yeah, I figured a little birdie at Apple feeds Jim his yep's and nope's. Wasn't he the one to break the news on Aperture?

    I don't remember and I don't really care.

     

    Aperture was already a moribund, long-neglected piece of code when Apple 86'ed it. If Dalrymple indeed was the one who outed this software's demise with a "yup/nope" comment, it further proves that Jim pretty much confirms trivial minutiae when he uses the one word response.

     

    When he gives that response, Apple is telling the world, "this is not important information, so we're letting Jim give it to you because it is basically worthless and it's something that many of you sane people have already surmised."

     

    Or Apple is possibly saying "this is such a dreadfully useless topic but thanks for the page views and newspaper column-inches." Jim's four-word denial generated 156 replies (and counting) at AppleInsider alone. That's brilliant.

  • Reply 155 of 230
    pigybankpigybank Posts: 165member
    Carney has been a buffoon as Obama's press secretary. That isn't a partisan observation. I make partisan observations of the president whereas with a press secretary I evaluate competence. Carney doesn't create Obama's positions or agenda, he is supposed to articulate and clarify them. That is what he did a lousy job of. Nothing partisan about that.
  • Reply 156 of 230
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    mstone wrote: »
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    "I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf," he said. "I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."
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    Bush said he made that decision after the August 2003 bombing of the United Nations headquarters in Baghdad, which killed Sergio Vieira de Mello, the top U.N. official in Iraq and the organization's high commissioner for human rights.</p>

    <p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-top-width:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);list-style-type:none;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:8px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;">"I remember when de Mello, who was at the U.N., got killed in Baghdad as a result of these murderers taking this good man's life," he said. "I was playing golf -- I think I was in central Texas -- and they pulled me off the golf course and I said, 'It's just not worth it anymore to do.'"</p>

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    <p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-top-width:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);list-style-type:none;margin-bottom:8px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;"> </p>

    <p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-top-width:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);list-style-type:none;margin-bottom:8px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;">In fact, Bush went golfing two months after the bombing the UN headquarters, and Keith Olbermann found the video:</p>

    If playing golf while the country is at war is such a crime, what does that say about the 176 round (number only accurate to June 14,2014 so likely higher) that Obama has played since coming to Office all of which have been done while US troops have been fighting in one or more wars. The OP wasn't saying to play golf was a crime or in bad taste, merely that Obama does it far more than any past president in Office. An average round is 3.5-4.5 hours long so at a conservative estimate Obama has spent almost 26 full days in office playing golf or 77 eight hour work days, though I'm sure when he's actually working he often puts in more time than that. Either way there seems like just cause to question the time expenditure give how often the first family is also on vacation in Hawaii and elsewhere.
  • Reply 157 of 230
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    crowley wrote: »
    Intentionally ironic?

    <iframe width="640" height="385" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Z3p9y_OEAdc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>


    Yeah, everything is Obama's fault.
    Once the war started George W Bush never played golf again while President.
  • Reply 158 of 230
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    </blockquote>
    If playing golf while the country is at war is such a crime...

    1) He's not the one that presented it as such. He's countering a false claim that Bush didn't play golf whilst the US was at war.

    2) And where the hell does this weird notion that playing golf means you're A) incompetent, B) indifferent, and/or C) lazy. If you want to actually see how much "time off" a sitting president took you need to do a more comprehensive report on their vacation and free time.
  • Reply 159 of 230
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    rogifan wrote: »
    Once the war started George W Bush never played golf again while President.

    Your comment is a lie, as [@]mstone[/@] clearly showed.
  • Reply 160 of 230
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    mpantone wrote: »
    I don't remember and I don't really care.

    Aperture was already a moribund, long-neglected piece of code when Apple 86'ed it. If Dalrymple indeed was the one who outed this software's demise with a "yup/nope" comment, it further proves that Jim pretty much confirms trivial minutiae when he uses the one word response.

    When he gives that response, Apple is telling the world, "this is not important information, so we're letting Jim give it to you because it is basically worthless and it's something that many of you sane people have already surmised."

    Jim gave much more than a "yep" for Aperture. Apple actually provided a statement to him. Do you consider Apple providing a statement on no future development of Aperture to be not important information? I seem to remember a lot or people upset about it.

    http://www.loopinsight.com/2014/06/27/apple-stops-development-of-aperture/

    Also, earlier this year he gave a "nope" to the rumors of an Apple TV event in the spring (a rumor that I believe came from Bloomberg). Is that also not important information or something that sane people would have already surmised?
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