I haven't lived in a cold climate (winter ice and snow) since ChicagoLand in the early 1970s. They didn't have those traffic sensors buried in the roads (or wires crossing the roads) salt and potholes would've destroyed them. Also, they didn't have those reflectors embedded in the lane markers and the edge of the road -- the first snow plow would've popped those little suckers like tiddlywinks!
Last I knew Apple Maps was very capable of getting you to your destination if you know the street address and are in a large metropolitan area in the US. That covers a pretty large portion of the user base.
Does Vancouver, Canananada rate Apple's attention? Other users in this area insist that Apple Maps is great, but it has misled me so many times that I just don't trust it anymore.
I don't know how much has changed in the last year or so, but notable incidents in the last 12 months include telling me that the address for a specialist in the core of a major business district (West Broadway for you locals) doesn't exist, showing a location for a supplier that would have taken me 30 miles in the wrong direction, and just yesterday insisting that a particular store doesn't exist, despite it having been there for at least five years, maybe ten.
Plus it usually, not always but usually, omits some major street name that makes it impossible to navigate without following the blue dot.
Others may be having better luck than me, or maybe are just more tolerant of these issues.
I'd like to know how fast to drive between lights to always hit green. Would save gas, save brakes, get you there as quickly, and be a more pleasant experience for the lack of constant acceleration and deceleration.
I know slow driving to get a green can be an inconvenience to those behind you who are going to turn at the next intersection instead of drive through, for example. But surely this is a solvable problem.
This could actually being self driving cars one step closer to reality, as well as a smart traffic grid.
Seeing as the traffic algorithms managing distribution of traffic aren't for public consumption, and adapt quite frequently as cities expand and contract, it would be a rather pointless exercise.
Does Vancouver, Canananada rate Apple's attention? Other users in this area insist that Apple Maps is great, but it has misled me so many times that I just don't trust it anymore.
I don't know how much has changed in the last year or so, but notable incidents in the last 12 months include telling me that the address for a specialist in the core of a major business district (West Broadway for you locals) doesn't exist, showing a location for a supplier that would have taken me 30 miles in the wrong direction, and just yesterday insisting that a particular store doesn't exist, despite it having been there for at least five years, maybe ten.
Plus it usually, not always but usually, omits some major street name that makes it impossible to navigate without following the blue dot.
Others may be having better luck than me, or maybe are just more tolerant of these issues.
I was under the impression that if one is outside of the USA then Apple Maps can't currently compete with Google Maps.
I was under the impression that if one is outside of the USA then Apple Maps can't currently compete with Google Maps.
Thing is, @EricTheHalfBee, who also lives in Vancouver, swears it's great. When I complained last summer that it wouldn't find an address in my neighbourhood, someone who frequently visits Vancouver insisted that he never has any trouble with Apple Maps. That might lead one to conclude that the problem rests with me, but the specific problems I've encountered are reproducible by others.
I don't know how to reconcile my experience with the reports of others.
I was under the impression that if one is outside of the USA then Apple Maps can't currently compete with Google Maps.
Thing is, <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/140720/EricTheHalfBee" style="display:inline-block;">@EricTheHalfBee</a>
, who also lives in Vancouver, swears it's great. When I complained last summer that it wouldn't find an address in my neighbourhood, someone who frequently visits Vancouver insisted that he never has any trouble with Apple Maps. That might lead one to conclude that the problem rests with me, but the specific problems I've encountered are reproducible by others.
I don't know how to reconcile my experience with the reports of others.
Did you submit problem reports to Apple through the Mass app?
My grandkids paternal grandfather lives in Victoria! Every summer they spend 2 weeks there on vacation. I have been able to track their movements with Apple maps with increasing accuracy for the past 3 years. Last year they went through Vancouver instead of Port Angeles ... Their Mom and I figured out what they were doing with Find My iPhone and were able to send them Ferry schedules and track their progress ...
I hope this doesn't mean that Apple will be suing to try to remove these features from Google Maps. I would hate to lose something I've been using for so long and have grown to love using.
However, if they're just doing this their own way in order to give Apple Maps access to this technology then more power to them. It's extremely useful and helpful information to have when using a navigation program. Those of you who only use Apple Maps will really benefit from this.
Tracking the movements are quite typical one however, I think current traffic analysis would not be accurate. I have seen many apps works with GPS that does not provides accurate and mostly gives partial outputs.
Stop light's should intreat with cars to determine when to turn from green to red and viceversa.
Makes no sense for a car to STOP when no other cars are at or near an intersection. The Stoplights should be able to determine all of these and know when to change. At the same time, they should be able to determine priorities. if a person has a real medical emergency - for example - they should be able to press a button that sends a special signal and allows all traffic lights to be green for them (if abused - deep fines should follow).
I was under the impression that if one is outside of the USA then Apple Maps can't currently compete with Google Maps.
Thing is, <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/140720/EricTheHalfBee" style="display:inline-block;">@EricTheHalfBee</a>
, who also lives in Vancouver, swears it's great. When I complained last summer that it wouldn't find an address in my neighbourhood, someone who frequently visits Vancouver insisted that he never has any trouble with Apple Maps. That might lead one to conclude that the problem rests with me, but the specific problems I've encountered are reproducible by others.
I don't know how to reconcile my experience with the reports of others.
Great. Now it can get you to the wrong destination more efficiently. Until they fix the basic problem of finding the correct location (e.g. I'm in NYC and looking for an address on West 14th Street, it finds it in Manhattan not Georgia) this functionality is worthless. They should just buy or license TomTom and call it a day.
I've found problems with Google and Apple maps. However, I do use Google Maps first, then Apple. Well, yesterday I was trying to find the location for the office of my local utility company. I did a search on Google Maps and it found it. Apple maps did not find it. Why? Google makes a "guess" based on crowdsourced data. I don't think Apple does this. Apple maps has "strict" search so you have to be spot on with what you search. That's based on my experience and on what I've read out there.
Overall, prefer Google maps. You like what you like...but Apple maps is there as a backup.
Great. Now it can get you to the wrong destination more efficiently. Until they fix the basic problem of finding the correct location (e.g. I'm in NYC and looking for an address on West 14th Street, it finds it in Manhattan not Georgia) this functionality is worthless. They should just buy or license TomTom and call it a day.
I've found problems with Google and Apple maps. However, I do use Google Maps first, then Apple. Well, yesterday I was trying to find the location for the office of my local utility company. I did a search on Google Maps and it found it. Apple maps did not find it. Why? Google makes a "guess" based on crowdsourced data. I don't think Apple does this. Apple maps has "strict" search so you have to be spot on with what you search. That's based on my experience and on what I've read out there.
Overall, prefer Google maps. You like what you like...but Apple maps is there as a backup.
Why such a reasoned post? You're expected to say, "Google rocks, Apple suks." Oh well; live and learn.
I haven't lived in a cold climate (winter ice and snow) since ChicagoLand in the early 1970s. They didn't have those traffic sensors buried in the roads (or wires crossing the roads) salt and potholes would've destroyed them. Also, they didn't have those reflectors embedded in the lane markers and the edge of the road -- the first snow plow would've popped those little suckers like tiddlywinks!
The sensors have been around in Chicagoland since the seventies, but they were the exception rather than the rule then. Today, nearly every stoplight intersection (and many highways) have the sensors. The sensors have evolved from rectangles with the corners cut off to oval, and they only seem to need replacing when the road is being related--indicating they DO survive the weather pretty well.
Since you departed the Chicago area, road reflectors have also become standard on most every major road, highway, expressway and tollway. They are either mounted in metal frames that lift snow plows over the reflectors (usually concrete road surfaces) or they are mounted in a rounded trench (blacktop) below the road surface. I lived in The Bay Area for ten years where I loved the glue-on road reflectors, and was delighted that they developed new reflector technology that works with snow plows.
They've been doing this for some time. Data so far suggests these cameras cause more accidents, but fewer fatal ones. Basically the accidents shifted from the rarer race through the red light way to late and kill someone to much more frequent 'S*** it's red and has a camera, slam on the brakes and get rear ended' accidents.
Yes, I heard that too. It's a shame they can't stop trying to make money out of these things by reducing the amber time and use as intended and reduce both kinds of accidents. Of course those newer cars with auto collision detect / breaking would help too. Now I think about it, auto detect amber in cars would be a good idea too! With all these morons driving and texting or talking on a cell phone, the cars need this.
Android has had this for years (which never would've happened if Jobs was still alive).
Remember the phone dialing device those two scallywags had? The young Jobs and Woz would have been selling such an app themselves..
EDit: I just checked US / UK translations as I have to do all the time ... and the US version of scallywags is different from my UK background meaning! ... I mean as in the pirate sense...
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Last I knew Apple Maps was very capable of getting you to your destination if you know the street address and are in a large metropolitan area in the US. That covers a pretty large portion of the user base.
Does Vancouver, Canananada rate Apple's attention? Other users in this area insist that Apple Maps is great, but it has misled me so many times that I just don't trust it anymore.
I don't know how much has changed in the last year or so, but notable incidents in the last 12 months include telling me that the address for a specialist in the core of a major business district (West Broadway for you locals) doesn't exist, showing a location for a supplier that would have taken me 30 miles in the wrong direction, and just yesterday insisting that a particular store doesn't exist, despite it having been there for at least five years, maybe ten.
Plus it usually, not always but usually, omits some major street name that makes it impossible to navigate without following the blue dot.
Others may be having better luck than me, or maybe are just more tolerant of these issues.
Seeing as the traffic algorithms managing distribution of traffic aren't for public consumption, and adapt quite frequently as cities expand and contract, it would be a rather pointless exercise.
I was under the impression that if one is outside of the USA then Apple Maps can't currently compete with Google Maps.
Thing is, @EricTheHalfBee, who also lives in Vancouver, swears it's great. When I complained last summer that it wouldn't find an address in my neighbourhood, someone who frequently visits Vancouver insisted that he never has any trouble with Apple Maps. That might lead one to conclude that the problem rests with me, but the specific problems I've encountered are reproducible by others.
I don't know how to reconcile my experience with the reports of others.
Did you submit problem reports to Apple through the Mass app?
My grandkids paternal grandfather lives in Victoria! Every summer they spend 2 weeks there on vacation. I have been able to track their movements with Apple maps with increasing accuracy for the past 3 years. Last year they went through Vancouver instead of Port Angeles ... Their Mom and I figured out what they were doing with Find My iPhone and were able to send them Ferry schedules and track their progress ...
Always a hater in every crowd.
Perhaps it depends where one lives. I'm China Apple supposedly is better as China doesn't give Google access.
Tracking the movements are quite typical one however, I think current traffic analysis would not be accurate. I have seen many apps works with GPS that does not provides accurate and mostly gives partial outputs.
Makes no sense for a car to STOP when no other cars are at or near an intersection. The Stoplights should be able to determine all of these and know when to change. At the same time, they should be able to determine priorities. if a person has a real medical emergency - for example - they should be able to press a button that sends a special signal and allows all traffic lights to be green for them (if abused - deep fines should follow).
I do. You're both right. Reconciliation achieved.
Great. Now it can get you to the wrong destination more efficiently. Until they fix the basic problem of finding the correct location (e.g. I'm in NYC and looking for an address on West 14th Street, it finds it in Manhattan not Georgia) this functionality is worthless. They should just buy or license TomTom and call it a day.
I've found problems with Google and Apple maps. However, I do use Google Maps first, then Apple. Well, yesterday I was trying to find the location for the office of my local utility company. I did a search on Google Maps and it found it. Apple maps did not find it. Why? Google makes a "guess" based on crowdsourced data. I don't think Apple does this. Apple maps has "strict" search so you have to be spot on with what you search. That's based on my experience and on what I've read out there.
Overall, prefer Google maps. You like what you like...but Apple maps is there as a backup.
Great. Now it can get you to the wrong destination more efficiently. Until they fix the basic problem of finding the correct location (e.g. I'm in NYC and looking for an address on West 14th Street, it finds it in Manhattan not Georgia) this functionality is worthless. They should just buy or license TomTom and call it a day.
I've found problems with Google and Apple maps. However, I do use Google Maps first, then Apple. Well, yesterday I was trying to find the location for the office of my local utility company. I did a search on Google Maps and it found it. Apple maps did not find it. Why? Google makes a "guess" based on crowdsourced data. I don't think Apple does this. Apple maps has "strict" search so you have to be spot on with what you search. That's based on my experience and on what I've read out there.
Overall, prefer Google maps. You like what you like...but Apple maps is there as a backup.
Why such a reasoned post? You're expected to say, "Google rocks, Apple suks." Oh well; live and learn.
The sensors have been around in Chicagoland since the seventies, but they were the exception rather than the rule then. Today, nearly every stoplight intersection (and many highways) have the sensors. The sensors have evolved from rectangles with the corners cut off to oval, and they only seem to need replacing when the road is being related--indicating they DO survive the weather pretty well.
Since you departed the Chicago area, road reflectors have also become standard on most every major road, highway, expressway and tollway. They are either mounted in metal frames that lift snow plows over the reflectors (usually concrete road surfaces) or they are mounted in a rounded trench (blacktop) below the road surface. I lived in The Bay Area for ten years where I loved the glue-on road reflectors, and was delighted that they developed new reflector technology that works with snow plows.
Just thought you'd want to know!
This ... or an App that changes the lights for you
Android has had this for years (which never would've happened if Jobs was still alive).
Yes, I heard that too. It's a shame they can't stop trying to make money out of these things by reducing the amber time and use as intended and reduce both kinds of accidents. Of course those newer cars with auto collision detect / breaking would help too. Now I think about it, auto detect amber in cars would be a good idea too! With all these morons driving and texting or talking on a cell phone, the cars need this.
Remember the phone dialing device those two scallywags had? The young Jobs and Woz would have been selling such an app themselves..
EDit: I just checked US / UK translations as I have to do all the time ... and the US version of scallywags is different from my UK background meaning! ... I mean as in the pirate sense...