My analogy is companies try to provide what the customers want. Customers want larger screens.
And that’s where it falls apart. They don’t.
Did you not see the slide in the Samsung/Apple case that showed that Apple knows customers want larger phones? (see pic below...duh dum!)
Uh… so that explains Samsung’s ruined sales numbers and Apple’s increasing sales numbers how? So that explains why people AREN’T buying the larger phones in the same numbers as smaller ones how? The slide shows that I am right, by the way.
Sales numbers show that 500,000,000 phones larger than 4 inches were sold last year.
No, they don’t. Lies show that.
If customers don't want larger screens why is Apple releasing a 4.7 inch phone?
Thanks for all the proof.
Why not stick to 4 inches if that's the perfect size?
You have said this is impossible. You cannot ask this question while trying to retain your original argument.
Same thing happened with iPhone5. People had to move away from a 3.5 inch screen if they wanted the latest tech. Same thing here.
Why is it time to move on? I liked the 3.5 inch screen better because it is most natural to my hand. The only bad part about it was that it wasn't 16:9. Apple picked the 3.5 inch size to begin with for a reason: it worked with the human hand. There's no way they can claim that suddenly in 2014, they know better, and now all customers must have larger screens. Of course some people prefer larger sizes. I have zero problem with Apple offering more (and larger) sizes. But forcing customers bigger (after the move to 16:9) doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.
Also, regarding all your talk about the market decides what companies build: it's not hard to manipulate the market. That's the whole point of advertising, no? Its purpose is to create demand where none (or less) previously existed.
I love to use my phone with one hand. Having said that, the 4.7 should be ok if they adjust the OS to make interface thumb accesible. Making bezels smaller and overall size slimmer with rounded corners will make it more comfortable to use also.
On the whole though, a killer feature would be a 24 hour battery while running the phone at full blast.
if Apple releases a 5.5 phone in the next 6 months you self ban yourself from posting for a month.
if Apple does not I self ban for 1 month.
Deal?
Where there is smoke there is fire. I remember everyone saying the 5C was fake for months last year.
You misunderstand me. You seem to infer that I don't think the iPhone 5.5" is real, but that's something you invented in your own mind. You seem to think opinions and "who's right and wrong" are all that matter, but I do not care about that. Opinions are worthless. I care about what I know and what I don't know. I care about facts and non-facts.
Your argument is: "[this part photo makes it] so obvious the 5.5 is coming."
The unproven assertion behind it is: this part is from the 5.5" iPhone.
Can you prove that? What evidence in the part photo proves the screen size? There's nothing "so obvious" about these part photos.
To me, it's not whether I think that an iPhone 5.5" will exist, or whether I think this part is from that rumored product. It's about whether I know those things to be factually true. And I know enough to know that I don't know these to be factually true.
Do you understand the difference? Or are you like the millions of people who blur fact and fiction into one hazy soup of beliefs?
I remain skeptical. You appear to lack skepticism. Why does that matter? If I posted a picture of something that was anonymously claimed to be a "hair sample from a 5.5 inch tall Bigfoot," you would, using the same lazy standard of logic, have to conclude that a 5.5 inch tall Bigfoot exists. Because someone anonymous told you that, and you don't question their assertions.
I love to use my phone with one hand. Having said that, the 4.7 should be ok if they adjust the OS to make interface thumb accesible. Making bezels smaller and overall size slimmer with rounded corners will make it more comfortable to use also.
On the whole though, a killer feature would be a 24 hour battery while running the phone at full blast.
The main reason Samsung reached its popularity was because of larger screens. Do you really think Apple will allow Samsung to hold this advantage for another TWO YEARS? Hell no.
This advantage doesn't seem to be helping their profits:
20% profit drop since last year. Even unit volume of their mainstream model matches last year's and phablets at 1/10th the units. Meanwhile Apple has record earnings results and unit growth. It would almost lead you to believe that having a comfortably sized phone that people use as a phone is the advantage.
4.7" is just a bit beyond comfortable but it seems to be the most popular size so that move isn't all that bad. 5.5" on the other hand is not comfortable to use, as mentioned by the people who own and use them. It goes against Apple's distaste for convergent devices. Apple doesn't make a hybrid laptop because they compromise on either the laptop or the tablet functionality. A convergent phablet is not a tablet, it will not behave like an iPad mini. It's just a giant phone that makes people using them look ridiculous because they are the size of POS devices.
The following is a guy with a big enough hand and the 5.5" device he's holding still looks silly:
Just because there's a market for something doesn't mean Apple has to satisfy it. There's a resurgence of those friendship bracelets going on just now:
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some people still prefer typewrites to PC's.
some people still prefer VCR's to DVD's
It’d be great if your analogy was in any way valid. But you’re just making yourself look ridiculous.
did you notice all the 15 inch TV's at the store? No? Or tube TV's?
YOUR ANALOGY IS COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS. Please do not continue with it.
Pockets haven’t.
The opposite is true, as seen by all sales numbers.
No. But I do want you to show how convinced you are by agree to my friendly wager.
I’m not convinced of anything. There is nothing friendly about your wager.
The market doesn’t want it. The market doesn’t buy it. The market says the opposite of what you are claiming.
Now try again.
My analogy is companies try to provide what the customers want. Customers want larger screens.
And that’s where it falls apart. They don’t.
Uh… so that explains Samsung’s ruined sales numbers and Apple’s increasing sales numbers how? So that explains why people AREN’T buying the larger phones in the same numbers as smaller ones how? The slide shows that I am right, by the way.
No, they don’t. Lies show that.
Thanks for all the proof.
You have said this is impossible. You cannot ask this question while trying to retain your original argument.
You seriously don't think Apple is making a phone larger than 4 inches this year?
I don’t recall saying that.
Its time to move on.
Same thing happened with iPhone5. People had to move away from a 3.5 inch screen if they wanted the latest tech. Same thing here.
Why is it time to move on? I liked the 3.5 inch screen better because it is most natural to my hand. The only bad part about it was that it wasn't 16:9. Apple picked the 3.5 inch size to begin with for a reason: it worked with the human hand. There's no way they can claim that suddenly in 2014, they know better, and now all customers must have larger screens. Of course some people prefer larger sizes. I have zero problem with Apple offering more (and larger) sizes. But forcing customers bigger (after the move to 16:9) doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.
Also, regarding all your talk about the market decides what companies build: it's not hard to manipulate the market. That's the whole point of advertising, no? Its purpose is to create demand where none (or less) previously existed.
On the whole though, a killer feature would be a 24 hour battery while running the phone at full blast.
You misunderstand me. You seem to infer that I don't think the iPhone 5.5" is real, but that's something you invented in your own mind. You seem to think opinions and "who's right and wrong" are all that matter, but I do not care about that. Opinions are worthless. I care about what I know and what I don't know. I care about facts and non-facts.
Your argument is: "[this part photo makes it] so obvious the 5.5 is coming."
The unproven assertion behind it is: this part is from the 5.5" iPhone.
Can you prove that? What evidence in the part photo proves the screen size? There's nothing "so obvious" about these part photos.
To me, it's not whether I think that an iPhone 5.5" will exist, or whether I think this part is from that rumored product. It's about whether I know those things to be factually true. And I know enough to know that I don't know these to be factually true.
Do you understand the difference? Or are you like the millions of people who blur fact and fiction into one hazy soup of beliefs?
I remain skeptical. You appear to lack skepticism. Why does that matter? If I posted a picture of something that was anonymously claimed to be a "hair sample from a 5.5 inch tall Bigfoot," you would, using the same lazy standard of logic, have to conclude that a 5.5 inch tall Bigfoot exists. Because someone anonymous told you that, and you don't question their assertions.
I'm more concerned that people around here seem to know what every single person in the world wants...
Please get out of my head.
My sentiments, too.
This advantage doesn't seem to be helping their profits:
http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/30/5953603/samsung-sales-and-profits-down-q2-2014
20% profit drop since last year. Even unit volume of their mainstream model matches last year's and phablets at 1/10th the units. Meanwhile Apple has record earnings results and unit growth. It would almost lead you to believe that having a comfortably sized phone that people use as a phone is the advantage.
4.7" is just a bit beyond comfortable but it seems to be the most popular size so that move isn't all that bad. 5.5" on the other hand is not comfortable to use, as mentioned by the people who own and use them. It goes against Apple's distaste for convergent devices. Apple doesn't make a hybrid laptop because they compromise on either the laptop or the tablet functionality. A convergent phablet is not a tablet, it will not behave like an iPad mini. It's just a giant phone that makes people using them look ridiculous because they are the size of POS devices.
The following is a guy with a big enough hand and the 5.5" device he's holding still looks silly:
Just because there's a market for something doesn't mean Apple has to satisfy it. There's a resurgence of those friendship bracelets going on just now:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27974401
Just because it's popular doesn't make it respectable.
Apple also has an upcoming iPad revision so there could easily be touch id parts or other components for the next iPad in the supply chain.