China bans government agencies from purchasing Apple products - report

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  • Reply 41 of 71
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    Originally Posted by Evilution View Post

    Misused idioms aside...


    There is no misuse. Both are correct in usage. Inform yourself.

  • Reply 42 of 71
    It has nothing to do with Apple and everything to do with punitive tit-for-tat with US politicians for regulating other Chinese products. A similar thing happened recently when China banned shellfish imports from the Pacific Northwest, saying their tests showed too much arsenic. This from the country that puts melamine in pet food and has terrible safety standards even for human food produced domestically. It was simply to give the bird to US politicians for an unfavorable decision.
  • Reply 43 of 71
    They're not banning Apple product. (People bring their iPad and Mac to work, not the other way around in China. )
    It's just a list of companies that swear to provide the same machine at same price with unlimited supply when request, so the government agency could order anything from the list without a long process of bidding.
    Apple's not going to submit that bid, because Apple is not going to write in official paper what this fall they will sell.
    But if any agency need, they could still conduct a lengthy purchase process which involve asking every resellers to submit their price.
  • Reply 44 of 71
    robin huberrobin huber Posts: 3,922member
    It's payback for the US government banning certain Chinese network router brands from government purchase, for the same alleged reason.

    That's the first thing I thought too. I think it was Huawei servers that were accused of having a back door that would allow the Chinese military to snoop. The head of Huawei is a Chinese military officer. A General, I think.
  • Reply 45 of 71
    bobschlobbobschlob Posts: 1,074member

    Huh; who woulda thunk this story would bring the opportunity for me to update my block list.

  • Reply 46 of 71
    formosaformosa Posts: 261member

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    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

     

    Anyone who thinks this is anything other than politics is sorely delusional.


     

    Exactly. And this will become grossly obvious when Android-based products are NOT banned/excluded.

  • Reply 47 of 71
    realisticrealistic Posts: 1,154member
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    Originally Posted by fjose1929 View Post



    Cook can nip this in the bud by simply raising all retail store salaries to the same level as the U.S.. Afterall, cook claims to be the champion of fairness. This will ingratiate apple to the Chinese people.



    The Chinese government will be completely blindsided.



    Same should be done in Turkey and other countries that have a disparity in wages.

    Do you realize how ignorant your comment makes you appear?

  • Reply 48 of 71
    dewmedewme Posts: 5,259member
    Today's word of the day boys and girls is:

    "PROTECTIONISM"
  • Reply 49 of 71
    calicali Posts: 3,494member
    inkling wrote: »
    Ah yes, another tiny bit of justice is slipping into politics. Apple tilted very heavily toward Obama in 2008, with Steve Jobs (according to Isaacson's biography) offering to help with the campaign.

    What's the result? Amazon managed to get the Obama administration DOJ to go after Apple and the major publishers. That's classic Chicago-machine politics. Color Apple's executives stupid on that. When you are dealing with Chicago politicians, you pay protection money/services or suffer the consequences.

    Unable or unwilling to aggressively take on terrorism with bold military action, the Obama administration turned to ever more intrusive surveillance. Now every world leader from Germany to China is ticked off at us. Did Obama really need to read transcripts of what Germany's chancellor was saying on her cell phone? Probably not, but doing it must have given him a thrill.

    Obama, the gamma-male among world political leaders, doesn't get many power thrills. Apple's executives are simply reaping what they sowed when they tilted toward the Democrats. No reason to feel sorry for them.

    I knew it wouldn't be long....

    Apple should have given honest Mitt 100 Million dollars and none of this crap would have happened in China!!
  • Reply 50 of 71
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,085member
    formosa wrote: »
    Quote:

    Exactly. And this will become grossly obvious when Android-based products are NOT banned/excluded.

    Google is pretty much banned. Good enough?
  • Reply 51 of 71
    misamisa Posts: 827member
    bobjohnson wrote: »
    BlackBerry is Canadian.

    Huawei and ZTE have not been banned by the US; it was recommended by a Congressional committee, but not implemented.

    RIM (Blackberry) also isn't a state-sponsored company.

    China, because of some questionable quality control practices and corruption, often end up with counterfeit parts and malware on genuine products because they use readily pirated software in the process of putting the devices together. So Huawei and ZTE can claim innocence, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening under their noses.

    So the reason the Government doesn't want any Chinese parts in the internet/mobile wireless networks is primarily to remove the potential for long-tail espionage. If China banned American routers for the same reason I wouldn't blame them.

    But end-user devices are another story. Every mobile carrier in the US/Canada sells cheap Huawei phones for their prepaid devices. Apple devices are the most expensive highest end devices you can buy from any carrier. Nobody is going to buy one over the other for cost, they are buying them because that's explicitly what they want.
  • Reply 52 of 71
    formosaformosa Posts: 261member
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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post





    Google is pretty much banned. Good enough?

     

    I was thinking more along the lines of Android-based phones & tablets from Samsung, LG, Xiomi, Huawei, etc.

  • Reply 53 of 71
    If anyone is worried about Chinese companies copying foreign products, a clever negative/positive ad campaign in China and other countries accurately educating consumers who is copying, what is copied, how/when it is copied and why it is copied and adding why your product is better will win over principled individuals and consumers. Doesn't take rocket science to figure out an effective ad/public relations strategy as mentioned for this type of competitive situation. Talented creative advertising personnel should be able to expertly communicate the message customized for each country.
  • Reply 54 of 71
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,085member
    formosa wrote: »
    I was thinking more along the lines of Android-based phones & tablets from Samsung, LG, Xiomi, Huawei, etc.

    Those are all Asian-based companies. If this a a pseudo trade-war between China and the US the companies you mentioned wouldn't fall under that umbrella.
  • Reply 55 of 71
    fracfrac Posts: 480member
    evilution wrote: »
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    Misused idioms aside...
    There is no misuse. Both are correct in usage. Inform yourself.
    True, both are correct...but only when used correctly. If you use one but mean the other, then no.
  • Reply 56 of 71
    msimpsonmsimpson Posts: 452member

    Time to move all production to one of the ASEAN members.

  • Reply 57 of 71
    b9botb9bot Posts: 238member
    A new report says they have NOT banned any Apple products. It was some documentation that Apple did not provide for energy compliance that they did not post Apple products in that list. However you can still buy any product that Apple makes. And there is NOT any issues with Apple's security either according to the new report.
    FUD.
  • Reply 58 of 71
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    Originally Posted by Evilution View Post









    Misused idioms aside...


    There is no misuse. Both are correct in usage. Inform yourself.


    True, both are correct...but only when used correctly. If you use one but mean the other, then no.

     

    They both are correct in being used to mean the same thing. Sarcastic inversion. You can look it up. We've discussed this in this Forum ad nauseam.

  • Reply 59 of 71
    jimtjimt Posts: 16member

    I think you mean "I could NOT care less."

  • Reply 60 of 71

    I agree - It is international politics or protectionism politics - Though it will die out. The problem is China needs US just as a bad. Though, I will say one thing, the whole NSA/PRISM stuff is really hurting this country. Especially a country that claims to have very high morals in many things. If China or other country try to spy and do that shit - it is given.

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