Beats by Dr. Dre gets its own section on Apple's online store

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  • Reply 41 of 99
    elijahgelijahg Posts: 754member
    magman1979 wrote: »
    Does Apple make their own drives? No, they were made by Seagate, and it was Seagate's manufacturing defects, which also included drives outside of Apple's products.

    Does Apple make their own batteries? No, they were made by various third-parties, and it was them who discovered the design flaws.

    Apple makes their own cables, and people abuse the crap out of them, pure and simple.

    No, but they do make their own plastic MacBook cases and have recalled them.

    https://www.apple.com/support/macbook-bottomcase/

    They've recalled iPhone 5 buttons that've stopped working they make those

    https://www.apple.com/support/iphone5-sleepwakebutton/

    They've recalled power adapters and they make those

    https://www.apple.com/support/usbadapter/exchangeprogram/

    Those are active exchange programs, there have been plenty more in the past, like iBook logic board failure, MagSafe power adapter strain relief failure (linked by someone else previously), and the old "yoyo" power supplies failing again at the strain relief.
    Oh hey, I found a list: http://www.elitemactechs.com/apple-recalls.html

    Apple isn't perfect.
    magman1979 wrote: »
    So now you're trying to drag my family into this? Nice attempt at hitting below the belt. If anyone from my family comes to me with a mutilated wire, I will chastise them to a lesser degree, and just replace the cable for them. If they do it habitually, I just tell them to start taking better care of them.

    No, a simple reference to your family doesn't "drag them into this", I was just trying to work out who you tell to "GET OUT". So if you don't work at a store, it's not your family who comes to you with frayed cables, who does?
    magman1979 wrote: »
    *does that a few more times*

    Nope, still not broken, nor are the two other 30-pin cables I have in my drawer that are more than 7 years old.

    That's nice for you, if you really were bending it at the strain relief, it'd soon break.

    Perhaps you need to put some glasses on, you'll find the strain relief design is completely different on cables more than 5 years old, as is the cable plastic: it's PVC.

    If these people treat the cables so badly, surely the same problem should occur with other phone manufacturers? Does it? Not that I can find. And surely they'd treat their phones with equal disrespect, but are there huge swathes of complaints over the phones breaking? Nope.
    magman1979 wrote: »
    Every single Apple product that's ever come across my desk has had the cables mangled almost beyond recognition. Even those that baby the actual device, torture the cables. This is not Apple's fault, this is sheer stupidity of the consumer.

    You say people are getting less intelligent, maybe you're included if you can't see that if every cable is mangled, there's a problem with the cables. So absolutely everyone babies the devices and chews up the cables? Of course.
  • Reply 42 of 99
    magman1979 wrote: »
    I've come to the conclusion that YouTube is geared towards teenagers and children, which makes sense when you look at its owner, Larry Page. It's a shame that it's such a cacophonous mess, though; you can be sure that if Apple were to own it, it would be a pleasant user experience. Vimeo is getting better; I like the interface and absence of ads.
    So you like Vimeo? I've been debating whether I should sign up for it. I already have the apps on my iOS devices for it, just haven't had the time to explore yet...

    I hate that you have to sign up on the iOS apps. You didn't use to, then they forced it, which was a bad move, in my opinion. They should just integrate it with iCloud so no login is needed. I think you don't need to sign in on the desktop to watch the videos, though.

    Other than that, I like it. You can save favourite videos easily, even download if you want to. Playback is much smoother and more consistent than it was even just a few months ago.

    Edit: forgot to mention—each day, they handpick a few vids—only about three or four. They're a good variety and much more interesting than the typical dross featured on YouTube.
  • Reply 43 of 99
    magman1979magman1979 Posts: 1,110member
    elijahg wrote: »
    That's nice for you, if you really were bending it at the strain relief, it'd soon break.

    Perhaps you need to put some glasses on, you'll find the strain relief design is completely different on cables more than 5 years old, as is the cable plastic: it's PVC.

    If these people treat the cables so badly, surely the same problem should occur with other phone manufacturers? Does it? Not that I can find. And surely they'd treat their phones with equal disrespect, but are there huge swathes of complaints over the phones breaking? Nope.
    People give cables and ear buds a very far distant thought in comparison to the primary device, I can look everywhere and see that being the case. Please don't tell me you're that naive? Even my wife does that with her Android phone. She babies the devices, but tortures the cables and headphones. So do most people I've seen in my career.

    And BTW, USB cables that are used by the other phone makers are of much worse quality, with the connectors and strain relief constantly failing, so this is nothing unique to Apple, and Apple cables are of better overall design. This is coming from a decade of working with and using their gear, right up to the very latest designs.
  • Reply 44 of 99
    magman1979magman1979 Posts: 1,110member
    I hate that you have to sign up on the iOS apps. You didn't use to, then they forced it, which was a bad move, in my opinion. They should just integrate it with iCloud so no login is needed. I think you don't need to sign in on the desktop to watch the videos, though.

    Other than that, I like it. You can save favourite videos easily, even download if you want to. Playback is much smoother and more consistent than it was even just a few months ago.

    Edit: forgot to mention—each day, they handpick a few vids—only about three or four. They're a good variety and much more interesting than the typical dross featured on YouTube.
    Cool, will need to give them a shot then, as I'm utterly sick of YouTube and the adolescent stupidity in the videos there, not to mention the mountains of hateful, racist, vile comments that litter the comment sections.
  • Reply 45 of 99
    magman1979 wrote: »
    I hate that you have to sign up on the iOS apps. You didn't use to, then they forced it, which was a bad move, in my opinion. They should just integrate it with iCloud so no login is needed. I think you don't need to sign in on the desktop to watch the videos, though.

    Other than that, I like it. You can save favourite videos easily, even download if you want to. Playback is much smoother and more consistent than it was even just a few months ago.

    Edit: forgot to mention—each day, they handpick a few vids—only about three or four. They're a good variety and much more interesting than the typical dross featured on YouTube.
    Cool, will need to give them a shot then, as I'm utterly sick of YouTube and the adolescent stupidity in the videos there, not to mention the mountains of hateful, racist, vile comments that litter the comment sections.

    Truly, it's a manifestation of Page and Schmidt (can never remember the name of the other one). It's the same blindness that produced Google Glass.

    My goodness, you'll find Vimeo a world away from YouTube! As for the comments section—ditto. They're moderated and civilised.
  • Reply 46 of 99
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member
    Originally Posted by Elijahg View Post

    Hello fanboy king. Even if you did have a cable fail (which you likely have) you'd never admit it, lest you chastise your beloved Apple.

     

    Nah, try again. Just take care of your products. I know what causes failures and I know what doesn’t. Guess which I do.

  • Reply 47 of 99
    darkvaderdarkvader Posts: 328member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

     

    I think Apple should lose the "Beats by Dr. Dre" tagline/reference and push the "Beats" name alone. Not write in as the title of the section and not write it on the box or the headphones themselves. Call them Beats. Simple.




    Seeing this got me curious, what did he get his doctorate in? 

     

    So I checked.  His Wikipedia article is really unclear on whether he actually graduated from high school.  No college education, certainly no doctorate.  He doesn't even have an honorary doctorate.  He's not a doctor of anything, he has no business using that title.

  • Reply 48 of 99
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 30,725member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DarkVader View Post

     



    Seeing this got me curious, what did he get his doctorate in? 

     

    So I checked.  His Wikipedia article is really unclear on whether he actually graduated from high school.  No college education, certainly no doctorate.  He doesn't even have an honorary doctorate.  He's not a doctor of anything, he has no business using that title.


     

    He has a degree in street knowledge

    The kind of degree you cannot get in college

    Boom!

  • Reply 49 of 99
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member
    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

    He has a degree in street knowledge.


     

    I had most of the credits necessary for one of those, but I couldn’t fit Bros Before Hoes 403 into my schedule.

  • Reply 50 of 99
    elijahgelijahg Posts: 754member
    magman1979 wrote: »
    People give cables and ear buds a very far distant thought in comparison to the primary device, I can look everywhere and see that being the case. Please don't tell me you're that naive?

    I am careful with a £15 cable, much more than I should have to be. You make assumptions that everyone who owns a cable treats it with disrespect. You're very good at making assumptions, but I see few facts that prove the quality of Apple cables. Though if you can't see that if every cable crossing your desk is mangled, then there is an engineering/design problem, there's little hope that you're able to see if something is quality or not.
    magman1979 wrote: »
    And BTW, USB cables that are used by the other phone makers are of much worse quality, with the connectors and strain relief constantly failing, so this is nothing unique to Apple, and Apple cables are of better overall design. This is coming from a decade of working with and using their gear, right up to the very latest designs.

    I don't think I've ever had a non-Apple cable break. Even the super cheap £2 USB ones from eBay.
    Nah, try again. Just take care of your products. I know what causes failures and I know what doesn’t. Guess which I do.

    I do take care of them thanks. Saying "nah" doesn't prove you haven't had Apple devices fail. What's your AppleID? I'll get a friend who works in the Apple Store to check your warranty replacement history.
  • Reply 51 of 99
    magman1979magman1979 Posts: 1,110member
    elijahg wrote: »
    I am careful with a £15 cable, much more than I should have to be. You make assumptions that everyone who owns a cable treats it with disrespect. You're very good at making assumptions, but I see few facts that prove the quality of Apple cables. Though if you can't see that if every cable crossing your desk is mangled, then there is an engineering/design problem, there's little hope that you're able to see if something is quality or not.

    I guess the large pile of old 30-pin cables and Lightning cables, ear buds, and MagSafe power adaptor I have in storage as spares doesn't showcase their cable quality? I don't make assumptions, I speak from personal, wide-ranging field experience, and I stand by that 110%.
    elijahg wrote: »
    I don't think I've ever had a non-Apple cable break. Even the super cheap £2 USB ones from eBay.
    Funny that you seem to state the exact opposite of what I say... I have a bin full of USB2.0 certified wires that are all destroyed at the strain relief point (lost count after the first dozen). Please don't tell me non-Apple cables don't break more, because that's pure BS.
  • Reply 52 of 99
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 30,725member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sog35 View Post





    That comment is boarder line......... I wont say it



    You know it in your heart already.

     

    You still here?

  • Reply 53 of 99
    elijahgelijahg Posts: 754member
    magman1979 wrote: »
    I guess the large pile of old 30-pin cables and Lightning cables, ear buds, and MagSafe power adaptor I have in storage as spares doesn't showcase their cable quality? I don't make assumptions, I speak from personal, wide-ranging field experience, and I stand by that 110%.
    No, it doesn't, I have old 30 pin connectors too that I've never even used.
    magman1979 wrote: »
    Funny that you seem to state the exact opposite of what I say... I have a bin full of USB2.0 certified wires that are all destroyed at the strain relief point (lost count after the first dozen). Please don't tell me non-Apple cables don't break more, because that's pure BS.
    Yeah fancy that, and i'm able to back up my statements with facts, you haven't once. Where's the proof that Apple cables break less?
    magman1979 wrote: »
    Asking someone for their Apple ID could be considered a phishing attempt... I will keep my Apple ID to myself thank you very much. I don't need to prove anything to you, I have enough proof starring me in the face right now, on top of the nearly two decades experience under my belt with this matter.

    Considered by whom? I wasn't asking you anyway, even though AppleIDs are usually email addresses.

    You can't provide proof because you have none. And besides, it was one decade of experience in a previous post. That was a quick decade.

    Why didn't you reply to my post regarding all Apple's repair programs? Couldn't you find a good excuse for each one?

    Like I said before, I love Apple's designs and OS X, iOS couldn't be better, but at times they produce a bad design. All companies do. If everything was perfect straight off the bat then we'd never get any design changes. But we do: Apple changes the designs to provide improvements over the previous design, meaning the previous design wasn't perfect and the newer is closer to perfection. The cables are a good example of poor design.

    I won't blindly defend something if I know it to be poor, and just because you haven't experienced the same problem doesn't mean others haven't. Despite you being adamant, It also doesn't mean its the fault of the user. I guess you think people who are born with a disease are themselves to blame because you don't have the same disease? It must be something they've done/not done!
  • Reply 54 of 99
    mpantonempantone Posts: 1,350member

    LOL, what a train wreck.

     

    <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 55 of 99
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    rogifan wrote: »
    Steve is turning over in his grave seeing those pills accessories. :embarrass

    wait -- the same steve that released the IPOD SOCK?? that steve?

    gmafb. you have no idea what he'd think, you've never even been in the same room as the man. get over yourself already.
  • Reply 56 of 99
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    I feel sorry for the Genius Bar employees having to service all this junk- Apple store morphs into Best Buy.
  • Reply 57 of 99
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    sog35 wrote: »
    Nope.

    Steve is turning in his grave for the offical apple wireless keyboards that have no number pad.

    would he? the original Mac keyboard, his baby, didn't have one either. maybe the things we think are important aren't the same things successful billionaires think are important?
  • Reply 58 of 99
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    Can anyone say "payola".

    that isn't what payola means. payola is a secret payment to someone (a DJ) for promotion. there's nothing secret about the public purchase.
  • Reply 59 of 99
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    brlawyer wrote: »
    Massively overpriced, pathetically overhyped - in summary, just crap; with a different owner now.

    And that's Tim Cook for you, Ladies and Gentlemen! Clap clap clap!

    stock is doing much better under cook than it was when jobs died.

    how's your company's stock price?
  • Reply 60 of 99
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    elijahg wrote: »
    What a nice customer assistant you must be, I bet everyone's so happy to come to your store.

    My lightning cable broke after two months, and it was fixed in position in my car. Frayed at the strain relief as usual with Apple cables. It would be impossible to mistreat it in its fixed location, the only movement it gets is plugging in and unplugging from the phone, certainly no teeth come near it..! Apple doesn't seem to understand what "strain relief" means, since their strain reliefs don't even bend...

    I'll see your anecdote and raise you -- all of my original lightning cables are in perfect shape and work flawlessly.

    what am I doing wrong?
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