I miss that one troll who would get completely bent out of shape if you posted any critical comment about the Fire Phone or Amazon. He would state the bloody obvious about Amazon's strategy then claim "but most of you don't get it." Never mind that others had posted plenty of evidence to the contrary. He would play the "I'm a developer" card as vague justification for why he was rational and right, and everyone else was irrational and wrong. He'd throw out amazingly immature taunts like "you got what you deserved" or "you know what you did" before devolving to outright name calling. It was bizarre. And funny.
Bezos is an insider in secret meetings with the top banksters, CEO's, royalty who meet yearly, and yet the mainstream, corporate media barely makes a peep.
Bezos is an insider in secret meetings with the top banksters, CEO's, royalty who meet yearly, and yet the mainstream, corporate media barely makes a peep.
Duckduckgo "Bilderberg" and edumicate yourself.
I already know about that group. So it's not exactly secret if people know about it. There are other ways of learning about things rather than blithely complaining about "the mainstream media", which we both know is a dog whistle. And why not just say what you need to say here, rather than insisting I "edumicate" myself? What's the connection between him, this group and this phone?
I already know about that group. So it's not exactly secret if people know about it. There are other ways of learning about things rather than blithely complaining about "the mainstream media", which we both know is a dog whistle. And why not just say what you need to say here, rather than insisting I "edumicate" myself? What's the connection between him, this group and this phone?
To my thinking, Bezos has been green-lighted by the oligarchs who attend Bilderberg to use Amazon to crush brick and mortar stores, collect and accumulate personal information about Amazon's customers, make little-to-no profit, and be rewarded with ridiculously high stock prices for AMZN.
"We have to, because our device won't compete with whatever Apple shows tomorrow."
Wrong. It should be, "We have to, because our device doesn't compete with what Apple has sold for years already."
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They still "sell" those? I hadn't heard anything about it since it launched.
I guess you don't watch much TV. The commercials have been incessant.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
LOL. This is too sad.
But I'll bet the stock went up. /s
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actually it went down, 1.17%
I know the original comment was sarcasm and the stock did go down, but probably more because of overall Amazon losses, which the New York Times reported today could be $800 million this quarter. Frankly, between the phone, the overall losses and Amazon's fights with publishers and the bad publicity that has ensued, I think it's panic time at Amazon in spite of the huge market share they have. If you can't make money when you dominate the e-commerce market, then when can you dominate? Amazon just got a new $2 billion credit line from Bank of America.
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Amazon, their commercials are horrible, all they tell the everyday user is "buy our phone and you can get one free year of Amazon Prime." Not exactly the best sales strategy. They don't tell what else the phone can do or give a real reason to buy it beyond giving Amazon more money in online sales. Neither is dressing some little kid up in adult clothes and have him talk like he's 35 and thinking it's cute.
Amazon Prime is very popular (although I'm not a member) and I actually thought it would help sell the phone. Obviously it didn't. Frankly, I'm surprised this phone has done as incredibly badly as it has. It really couldn't have done any worse. Maybe, instead of the "Fire Phone", they should have called it the "Kindle Phone".
From today's Times:
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But at three Bay Area AT&T stores over the weekend, salesmen said that the Fire had performed dismally. "We got special shirts, staffed up for the launch -- and then nothing," said one salesman, who estimated his store had sold a total of 10 Fire phones. At a smaller store, two salesman said they had sold exactly one Fire.
The TV commercials are terrible. They're all about these two 9-year-old obnoxious kids. So is the phone for adults or kids? If it's for adults, then why are the spots about kids? And it makes a really big deal about the fact that the phone can read a telephone number on a poster and recognize it as a phone number. How often does that need to be accomplished in real life?
And if it's supposed to be a good phone for kids, the characters in the spots seem to have unlimited access to anything they want - not something that will turn on parents. They have a 9-year-old girl saying that she's got "Skyfall" lined up to watch. That's a PG-13 rated movie with cruel violence. What was Amazon (or their agency) thinking? They should have shown all the free educational games, etc., that kids would have access to.
They should have promoted all the benefits one gets from Amazon Prime because most people probably think it's nothing more than upgraded shipping.
I suspect they'll be issuing credits of some sort to those who already purchased or an extra year of Prime. If it's only 35,000 phones, we're talking about $7 million in credits, which probably costs Amazon about $3.5 million. It's nothing.
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Sigh.
You just don't get it.
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Bilderberger? Here I was thinking he was one of the Knights Templar. Or a Rosicrucian.
What about all the people who paid $200 for this device under contract?
Will Amazon give them all refunds? I hope so.
Personally, if I had payed $200 and then Amazon reduced the price to 99 cents without issues me a refund a short time later, I would be pissed.
All 15 of them are going to be raging angry, I'm sure.
Bilderberger? Here I was thinking he was one of the Knights Templar. Or a Rosicrucian.
Yes, Bezos has been a frequent attendee of the annual Bilderberg conference, along with Bill Gates, Eric Schmidt, Craig Mundie (of MS), et al.
And your point is.....?
And your point is.....?
Bezos is an insider in secret meetings with the top banksters, CEO's, royalty who meet yearly, and yet the mainstream, corporate media barely makes a peep.
Duckduckgo "Bilderberg" and edumicate yourself.
I already know about that group. So it's not exactly secret if people know about it. There are other ways of learning about things rather than blithely complaining about "the mainstream media", which we both know is a dog whistle. And why not just say what you need to say here, rather than insisting I "edumicate" myself? What's the connection between him, this group and this phone?
I already know about that group. So it's not exactly secret if people know about it. There are other ways of learning about things rather than blithely complaining about "the mainstream media", which we both know is a dog whistle. And why not just say what you need to say here, rather than insisting I "edumicate" myself? What's the connection between him, this group and this phone?
To my thinking, Bezos has been green-lighted by the oligarchs who attend Bilderberg to use Amazon to crush brick and mortar stores, collect and accumulate personal information about Amazon's customers, make little-to-no profit, and be rewarded with ridiculously high stock prices for AMZN.
Geez, what a way to say what we already knew...
"We have to, because our device won't compete with whatever Apple shows tomorrow."
Wrong. It should be, "We have to, because our device doesn't compete with what Apple has sold for years already."
They still "sell" those? I hadn't heard anything about it since it launched.
I guess you don't watch much TV. The commercials have been incessant.
LOL. This is too sad.
But I'll bet the stock went up. /s
actually it went down, 1.17%
I know the original comment was sarcasm and the stock did go down, but probably more because of overall Amazon losses, which the New York Times reported today could be $800 million this quarter. Frankly, between the phone, the overall losses and Amazon's fights with publishers and the bad publicity that has ensued, I think it's panic time at Amazon in spite of the huge market share they have. If you can't make money when you dominate the e-commerce market, then when can you dominate? Amazon just got a new $2 billion credit line from Bank of America.
Amazon, their commercials are horrible, all they tell the everyday user is "buy our phone and you can get one free year of Amazon Prime." Not exactly the best sales strategy. They don't tell what else the phone can do or give a real reason to buy it beyond giving Amazon more money in online sales. Neither is dressing some little kid up in adult clothes and have him talk like he's 35 and thinking it's cute.
Amazon Prime is very popular (although I'm not a member) and I actually thought it would help sell the phone. Obviously it didn't. Frankly, I'm surprised this phone has done as incredibly badly as it has. It really couldn't have done any worse. Maybe, instead of the "Fire Phone", they should have called it the "Kindle Phone".
From today's Times:
The TV commercials are terrible. They're all about these two 9-year-old obnoxious kids. So is the phone for adults or kids? If it's for adults, then why are the spots about kids? And it makes a really big deal about the fact that the phone can read a telephone number on a poster and recognize it as a phone number. How often does that need to be accomplished in real life?
And if it's supposed to be a good phone for kids, the characters in the spots seem to have unlimited access to anything they want - not something that will turn on parents. They have a 9-year-old girl saying that she's got "Skyfall" lined up to watch. That's a PG-13 rated movie with cruel violence. What was Amazon (or their agency) thinking? They should have shown all the free educational games, etc., that kids would have access to.
They should have promoted all the benefits one gets from Amazon Prime because most people probably think it's nothing more than upgraded shipping.
I suspect they'll be issuing credits of some sort to those who already purchased or an extra year of Prime. If it's only 35,000 phones, we're talking about $7 million in credits, which probably costs Amazon about $3.5 million. It's nothing.