After Apple's record setting launch, analysts predict iPhone 6 will win over Android switchers

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  • Reply 21 of 69
    dewmedewme Posts: 2,162member
    Moving from a 4S to a 6Plus. I make fewer than 10 calls per month but use the other features all the time. I've found that I prefer reading on my iPad Mini, iPod Touch 5, and iPhone 4S more than on the larger iPad. Narrower field of view. The iPhone 6Plus is the perfect size. I have no expectations of one handed use. It's a pocket computer that happens to make phone calls. The 128 GB seals the deal too. Now I can put my 8500 song library on the device at 256 bit sampling rate with lots of books and apps and still have 30-40 GB free. With 64 GB I have to down sample to at least 192 bit and be careful not to install too many apps, books, pictures, or songs and I'm still only seeing < 5 GB free.

    Everyone's advising against running iOS 8 on the 4S. After using the iOS beta I thought that was good advice. Doing a clean install with the release version of iOS 8 makes it tolerable. Not great but not too bad.

    I fully expect Apple will continue to support and build new smaller devices. Maybe not 4" but 4.3" range. I've always admired the feel of the iPod Touch 5 and wished Apple could make an iPhone that felt as good as the Touch does in your hand. The regular iPhone 6 comes close but there's still room for something smaller. At some point I think we'll see a 3-size family produced in lock-step. Just a matter of time and Apple coming up with some new product categories to take some of the enormity off of each iPhone release. Apple can't stray to far from the formula with so much riding on the iPhone. Keeping the previous generation around is a hedge and buffer against making too radical of a change in the newest versions.
  • Reply 22 of 69
    kotmar wrote: »
    I went to the store yesterday, and after trying iphone 6 and 6 , I felt the is too big and awkward, so I preordered the 6. But whenever I do not hold the phone, I always feel that I will regret getting a smaller one, due to battery and bigger screen. Am I making a mistake, or is it just perception due to hype over the ? Logically it makes sense to get a smaller one, as I talk on the phone alot so its more comfortable to hold, and the phone is always in my front pocket.

    I've had my 6 (not Plus) for three days now, and I'm finding the size extremely awkward. When I pick up my 4S, it now feels futuristic to me in a way I didn't think would be possible after three years. My hands are probably slightly larger than average, but one-handed operation seems borderline impossible with the new phone, whereas I never used two hands with my old phone, so I'm probably going to have to do everything differently. My thumb can't reach the top two rows of apps on the home screen, so I filled up the top two rows with apps I rarely use, to bump everything down, since they all migrate to the (unusable) top of the screen by default. When I do have to reach the top for something, I have to loosen my grip and let the phone slide down in my hand to get there, and I've already dropped it (and barely caught it) twice. I think they should redesign the GUI so you have to touch the top of the screen as little as possible. The aluminum finish is also more slippery in my hand than the glass of my 4S. To lock/unlock the phone, you have to squeeze the bottom of the phone and push the side button with your thumb, but if you try to put a finger on the other side for better leverage, you end up pressing the volume button. Similarly, if you use the volume button for snapping a photo, you risk turning off the phone at the same time. For me, the benefits of a larger screen are insignificant compared to the inconvenience of the poor ergonomics, but this would be a problem with any phone this big, and otherwise it's obviously a great device. Maybe the 6 Plus actually does make more sense, since it's probably not much more awkward than the 6 once you resign yourself to using two hands, but you have the advantages of more screen real estate, better battery life and OIS camera. I'm contemplating trying to pick up a used 64Gb 5S, but if they're never going to offer a hand-sized phone again, maybe I might as well get used to the awkwardness.
  • Reply 23 of 69
    melgross wrote: »
    kotmar wrote: »
    I went to the store yesterday, and after trying iphone 6 and 6 , I felt the is too big and awkward, so I preordered the 6. But whenever I do not hold the phone, I always feel that I will regret getting a smaller one, due to battery and bigger screen. Am I making a mistake, or is it just perception due to hype over the ? Logically it makes sense to get a smaller one, as I talk on the phone alot so its more comfortable to hold, and the phone is always in my front pocket.

    It depends on what you mostly use the phone for. For some time, I wanted the smaller phone. Using friend's large Samsung Notes, and Galaxy's, anything over 5" seemed way too large. But with what I'm reading about the feel of these phones, along with the extra feature set of the 6+, I'm now inclined to buy that model.

    Why? Well, the optical stabilization is better than the electronic version. I use my phone to take a lot of pictures, and some video, so that matters a lot to me.

    The horizontal keyboard offers keys I've wanted for years, such as arrow keys. There are times when touching small type is not easily consistant. The bigger keyboard itself will help me type more easily. Other small touches are also winning me over.

    I haven't been to the store yet because I'm waiting for the crowds to disperse, and our contract isn't over until January 1st anyway, so I haven't as yet handled them.

    My daughter's iPhone 6 with leather case is, for all practical purposes, the equivalent size of the iP5C and case it replaced -- but with much better everything!

    My iPhone 6+ left Inchon about an hour ago -- delivery on the 25th. Interesting, that the printout template of the iPhone 6+ is almost the same footprint of my granddaughter's Cannon 60D DLSR (about 40 times thicker).

    From the pictures and videos already posted to the web, I suspect that the 6+ will cause picture/video aficionados , like yourself, not to shoulder the burden of their DSLR camera kit -- except when specifically needed.

    These days, I justify most of my Apple purchases with my AAPL dividends ... I think they are mutually supportive and mutually beneficial ..

    That's my rationale -- I suspect you'll find one that suits you :D
  • Reply 24 of 69
    Where is the survey about all the Android switchers?
  • Reply 25 of 69
    For iphone users and wants upgrade for larger screen will certainly go for iphone 6 / Plus. No brainer. For Android users, with no money issue will go for iphone 6 / Plus. No brainer their either. The problem is those android users like me who wants iphone 6 / Plus but are not mentally ready to spend extra money will drift towards iphone 6 but slowly. Buy their iphone 6 cheaper on ebay, craiglist, etc. But, migration from Android to iphone 6 / Plus is inevitable. I tell you, Apple is killing me with iphone 6.
  • Reply 26 of 69
    Well, that now leaves Samsung with nothing but U2 as fodder for an Apple-mocking commercial.
  • Reply 27 of 69

    You don't need survey. Android to iphone 6 / Plus is inevitable and happening as we speak and will continue for a long time.

  • Reply 28 of 69

    I am a android user for a long time but now looking forward buying iphone 6 soon as gather some courage and money. For day-to-day use, iphone 6 is great. Your choice is right.

  • Reply 29 of 69
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Retrogusto View Post





    I've had my 6 (not Plus) for three days now, and I'm finding the size extremely awkward. When I pick up my 4S, it now feels futuristic to me in a way I didn't think would be possible after three years. My hands are probably slightly larger than average, but one-handed operation seems borderline impossible with the new phone, whereas I never used two hands with my old phone, so I'm probably going to have to do everything differently.

     

    I found the 5 cumbersome at first after using the 4's size for so long, but now it is natural. When I picked up the 6, I had no issues reaching any point on the screen or the home button, and I probably have average man sized hands (I'm a shade under 6' tall.)

     

    I bet that if you had used the 5 for a while, the 6 wouldn't seem so bad to you.

  • Reply 30 of 69
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 7,318member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Constable Odo View Post

     

    Maybe Steve Jobs is going to get his thermonuclear wish.  It will be interesting to see Samsung going up in a cloud of ashes.  My biggest wish will be to see Apple Pay crush the living daylights out of Google Wallet.  I'm getting tired of hearing those Google executives boasting about how Google Wallet was first in 2011 and Apple Pay is copycat crap.  Time for Google to get its comeuppance.




    From what I’ve read Google and others are racing to make their services compatible with ?Pay. They see the handwriting on the wall. Just as in web and data iOS customers actually USE their devices while Android users don’t. 

  • Reply 31 of 69
    Maybe Steve Jobs is going to get his thermonuclear wish.  It will be interesting to see Samsung going up in a cloud of ashes.  My biggest wish will be to see Apple Pay crush the living daylights out of Google Wallet.  I'm getting tired of hearing those Google executives boasting about how Google Wallet was first in 2011 and Apple Pay is copycat crap.  Time for Google to get its comeuppance.

    ApplePay, alone, could be the driving force for many to purchase an iPhone 6 and disqualify anything else.

    HealthKit will drive many more sales -- and availability of the AppleWatch, in early 2015, should create an upsurge in iPhone 6 sales -- in the normally flat March quarter.

    HomeKit, too, should drive iPhone sales.

    The new openness of Apple SDKs brings iOS 8 up to par (or better) with competing platforms.

    Swift and Xcode gives Apple Developers a superior development capability.

    I expect new iPads and AppleTV to exploit the 64-bit capabilities of the A8[X] -- more storage, RAM, lager screen, direct [fast] Mac connection as a graphics tablet/additional screen, 4K video, better imagery (medical).

    I expect a new AppleTV with Console quality games.

    All in all -- I'd much rather be us than them.
  • Reply 32 of 69
    "After Apple's record setting launch, analysts predict iPhone 6 will win over Android switchers"

    I can see 'winning over an Android user' or 'winning back an Android switcher' but sure how you 'win over an Android switcher'.

    Ya' put a little ginger under his tail :D
  • Reply 33 of 69
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kotmar View Post



    I went to the store yesterday, and after trying iphone 6 and 6 , I felt the is too big and awkward, so I preordered the 6. But whenever I do not hold the phone, I always feel that I will regret getting a smaller one, due to battery and bigger screen. Am I making a mistake, or is it just perception due to hype over the ? Logically it makes sense to get a smaller one, as I talk on the phone alot so its more comfortable to hold, and the phone is always in my front pocket.



    I went to the Apple Store on Saturday. The iPhone 6Plus fits in my shirt pocket. I will be getting the 6Plus. My iPhone spends almost all it's time on a desktop or other flat surface and only goes in my pocket when going somewhere. So, the 6Plus will work out fine. Like numerous other posters, I take a lot of pictures and the image stabilization is important.

  • Reply 34 of 69

    Soon the only Android users will be the ones who got it free at 7-Eleven with their Slurpee, who can't perceive a difference between one flashy screened device and another.

  • Reply 35 of 69
    They say small pen-is big car, big phone, small
  • Reply 36 of 69
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

     

    The OS is massively more appealing than TouchWiz- which is simply a second-rate wanna be of iOS.


    Uh yeah.  Please do NOT touch my wiz.

  • Reply 37 of 69
    For me personally, the iPhone 6 is not a compelling reason to switch. I used all the iPhones from launch through iPhone 5 and switched to Android (Nexus 5, stock OS) when I realized Apple was being resistant about allowing you to use different services, and forcing you to use their browser and mail client.

    I do miss the better camera, super smooth UI, and pretty hardware of the iPhone but that is about it. Android has better service integration, app handler options, and tight integration into Google (obviously). Apple makes the best hardware but they need to get with the times in the OS before I switch back.
  • Reply 38 of 69
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Retrogusto View Post





    I've had my 6 (not Plus) for three days now, and I'm finding the size extremely awkward. When I pick up my 4S, it now feels futuristic to me in a way I didn't think would be possible after three years. My hands are probably slightly larger than average, but one-handed operation seems borderline impossible with the new phone, whereas I never used two hands with my old phone, so I'm probably going to have to do everything differently. My thumb can't reach the top two rows of apps on the home screen, so I filled up the top two rows with apps I rarely use, to bump everything down, since they all migrate to the (unusable) top of the screen by default. When I do have to reach the top for something, I have to loosen my grip and let the phone slide down in my hand to get there, and I've already dropped it (and barely caught it) twice. I think they should redesign the GUI so you have to touch the top of the screen as little as possible. The aluminum finish is also more slippery in my hand than the glass of my 4S. To lock/unlock the phone, you have to squeeze the bottom of the phone and push the side button with your thumb, but if you try to put a finger on the other side for better leverage, you end up pressing the volume button. Similarly, if you use the volume button for snapping a photo, you risk turning off the phone at the same time. For me, the benefits of a larger screen are insignificant compared to the inconvenience of the poor ergonomics, but this would be a problem with any phone this big, and otherwise it's obviously a great device. Maybe the 6 Plus actually does make more sense, since it's probably not much more awkward than the 6 once you resign yourself to using two hands, but you have the advantages of more screen real estate, better battery life and OIS camera. I'm contemplating trying to pick up a used 64Gb 5S, but if they're never going to offer a hand-sized phone again, maybe I might as well get used to the awkwardness.

     

    Retro, I'd suggest switching from the 'grid of icons' mindset popular with smaller phones.   Use widgets for the top half to 3/4 of the screen, and your 'goto' apps for the bottom row or two of the main screen.  Leave the grid of icons in the app list screen, or put it one screen over.  Eventually you could get used to just turning your phone on and having most of the info you want in your widgets.

     

    That works for me, but may not work for you.  If so, I believe they have a feature where one handed, if you double tap the home button (not press in), it slides all of your icons to the bottom of the screen.  Does iOS allow you to place your icons or does it automatically move them to the top?

  • Reply 39 of 69
    The stock price drops on record sales that surpassed the iPnone 5S, that resulted in a 5% stock increase. This year not only were the phones short in supply for demand, but they haven't even started up sales in China. Of course the market will sell off, because there is no sense to gambling. "Daddy needs a new pair of shoes!" The most successful company in the world, with the best, richest and most loyal customers, hits the ball out of the park and Wall Street boos. What a bunch of hooey.
  • Reply 40 of 69
    [Quote name="wood1208" url="/t/182432/after-apples-record-setting-launch-analysts-predict-iphone-6-will-win-over-android-switchers#post_2603324"]I am a android user for a long time but now looking forward buying iphone 6 soon as gather some courage and money. For day-to-day use, iphone 6 is great. Your choice is right.
    [/quote]

    I beg to differ. I am an android user myself and I generally switch every 6 to 12 months. Lover of technology myself. I don't see a reason to leave my M8 for either of the phones. I will miss my smooth as hell syncing and the integrated google now. I have google wallet so apple pay is Meh for me. My phone is a google play edition so upgrades are not a problem. I can't find a single reason to car for the iPhone 6 or the plus. Their will be many users who don't see many of advantages of the iPhone and many who will. We see this every six months. When Samsung releases a new phone apple loses users to it when apple comes up with a new phone Samsung loses users. I myself may buy an iPhone 6 as a backup phone if I am underwhelmed by the nexus 6.

    FYI I have an iPhone 5 that sits in a cabinet due to it being no more then a backup phone. I used for a week and missed google now to much. Maybe if I get the six the HTC will go in the cabinet. I prefer to keep two devices myself.
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