Yosemite updaters will need to wait for Monday's iOS 8.1 launch for SMS relay & Instant Hotspot

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  • Reply 21 of 43
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    techno wrote: »
    What I never seem to read in any of these threads is that many of these new features will not work for a lot of people. Handoff requires bluetooth 4.0 LE. Dongles and adapters will not work. If you do not have this newer bluetooth, forgot about many of the cool new features.

    The whole point is you need to keep up with the latest technology so as to keep my investment in AAPL doing so well... OK? :D

    Seriously though, it is truly amazing how far back many upgrades do work on Apple hardware but there are obviously limits. Surely Apple should not hold off on new features because some people use old equipment.

    edit: typo
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  • Reply 22 of 43
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    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post



    So effectively, these features won't be available until 23rd October, as it will be too risky updating to iOS 8.1 on Monday, and that's presuming that 8.1 doesn't feature show-stopping bugs.



    STFU already.

    Sorry you had a problem (along with lots of others) with 8.0.1 but that isn't the "rule" with Apple updates, its the exception.

     

    No need to troll every single thread with a comment about how you should never update anything again.

     

    I had no problems with 8.0.0 ... .0.1 was pulled before I could get to it, .0.2 was also not a problem.

    My upgrade to Yosemite went off without a hitch ... should I step up to the pulpit and start telling people they must update immediately because I had success with it?

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  • Reply 23 of 43

    ... and the "instant hotspot" feature has been working quite nicely already between iOS devices... I was a bit startled when I first noticed I could turn on my phone's hotspot from a DIFFERENT device... (was thinking other people would be able to do it)... until i researched and figured out it was only available to other devices using the same iCloud account...  looking forward to getting the MBA on board with that!

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  • Reply 24 of 43
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member
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    Originally Posted by Mac_128 View Post





    Wait, I don't really know why I would want to make a call with my Mac when my phone is sitting in close proximity. However, is this also supposed to work on an iPad? That I could actually see using.



    I know why. Most of the time when I'm at home my phone is on the charger a room away. It's definitely more convenient taking the call on the Mac than walking to get the phone every time.

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  • Reply 25 of 43
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member
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    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

    Totally agree. More options are always better. The .... "I don't know where the iPhone is and by the time I run Find my iPhone, ping it and walk around and look under the sofa, I could have called from the Mac" ... is probably top of my list image

    Whoah. Careful there. :) Wasn't that always the Windows mantra, that more options were always better? I would argue that more options is definitely not always better, though in this case I know what you mean. I already have been doing this on my iPad and first time it completely took me by surprise. I was lying on the couch [cough] working [cough], when suddenly my iPad rang. The interface looked exactly like the iPhone and it just threw me for six. I answered and finished the call (speaker mode) and then thought, wtf just happened? This is my iPad! I then remembered this new alleged feature and was duly impressed. Works super well.

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  • Reply 26 of 43
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    matrix07 wrote: »

    I know why. Most of the time when I'm at home my phone is on the charger a room away. It's definitely more convenient taking the call on the Mac than walking to get the phone every time.

    Agreed. It beats me why some people are actually taking time to post that they don't see a use for it. If they don't want to use it ... fine, don't use it!
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  • Reply 27 of 43
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    paxman wrote: »
    Whoah. Careful there. :) Wasn't that always the Windows mantra, that more options were always better? I would argue that more options is definitely not always better, though in this case I know what you mean. I already have been doing this on my iPad and first time it completely took me by surprise. I was lying on the couch [cough] working [cough], when suddenly my iPad rang. The interface looked exactly like the iPhone and it just threw me for six. I answered and finished the call (speaker mode) and then thought, wtf just happened? This is my iPad! I then remembered this new alleged feature and was duly impressed. Works super well.

    Well as long as you know what I mean ... :) I would be the last person on earth to try to find any parallel between anything for OS X and anything from the previous evil empire.
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  • Reply 28 of 43
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    mac_128 wrote: »
    Wait, I don't really know why I would want to make a call with my Mac when my phone is sitting in close proximity.

    Also easy to highlight the number in an email sig and call the person which isn't in your AddressBook.

    I would be the last person on earth to try to find any parallel between anything for OS X and anything from the previous evil empire.

    Ha! I don't see any parallel here.
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  • Reply 29 of 43
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member

    I did that after going to 8.0 on my iPad, didn't seem to help. My iPhone isn't even a month old, so...

    Then if you have problems on a one month old iPhone that isn't cured by such steps, I'd use your warranty immediately if I were you, and call 1-800-My-APPLE
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  • Reply 30 of 43
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    philboogie wrote: »
    Also easy to highlight the number in an email sig and call the person which isn't in your AddressBook.
    Ha! I don't see any parallel here.


    Well I didn't but he was pulling my leg saying "Whoah. Careful there. Wasn't that always the Windows mantra, that more options were always better?".

    This new hot spot thingy ... it is only available if you pay your carrier extra for the privilege of tethering I assume?
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  • Reply 31 of 43
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    Well I didn't but he was pulling my leg saying "Whoah. Careful there. Wasn't that always the Windows mantra, that more options were always better?".

    Hehe, sure was. Good thing Apple isn't doing the more is better thing, they refine. Usually that means removing features, or incorporating them, which might very well end up in a shorter workflow. While typing that, I guess that is what Photos will turn out to be.
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  • Reply 32 of 43
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    Originally Posted by -Los View Post



    Looks like I'm going to have to drop my AT&T grandfathered all you can eat data plan for one with tethering.

    Yea... Apple kept on saying 'enable hotspot' and I thought, doesn't the phone have a hotspot? Is tethering free now? Nope... if you have tethering, just don't have to pull the phone out to turn it on. I guess that's nice, if you have tethering... but for awhile there, I was hoping for something for free, silly me, ... fa-get-about-it!8-)

     

    That said, like you, I have the grandfathered plan also... I haven't checked tethering prices lately. I never use more than a GB a month of cell data anyways... so....

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  • Reply 33 of 43
    clemynxclemynx Posts: 1,552member
    ... that's annoying.

    Sms relay has stopped working for me for a mysterious reason. Call relay works however :/
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  • Reply 34 of 43
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    boeyc15 wrote: »
    Yea... Apple kept on saying 'enable hotspot' and I thought, doesn't the phone have a hotspot? Is tethering free now? Nope... if you have tethering, just don't have to pull the phone out to turn it on. I guess that's nice, if you have tethering... but for awhile there, I was hoping for something for free, silly me, ... fa-get-about-it!8-)

    That said, like you, I have the grandfathered plan also... I haven't checked tethering prices lately. I never use more than a GB a month of cell data anyways... so....

    My wife and I are grandfathered too and we can't even add our iPads to that. I also fear we'd lose the limitless data on the iPhone if we added tethering. The great thing about the limitless data for iPhone for us is driving around the USA with maps and Siri... all free. We once tried that with an 4G enabled iPad with Verizon and ate a months data in under an hour!
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  • Reply 35 of 43
    clemynxclemynx Posts: 1,552member

    Quote:


    Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post

     



    I've had some crazy odd issues with iOS 8 (and now 8.0.2) with my iPhone 6. Copy/Paste is hella screwed up. I can copy an item in Safari, then go to paste it and it pastes something from 2 or 3 "copies" ago. For example, in the past 30 minutes, I could have copied

     

    1) Corvette

    2) http://www.apple.com

    3) Apple Insider

     

    Apple Insider would be the most recent item that I have copied to paste into a field, but it will actually paste #1 or #2


     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheWhiteFalcon View Post





    Yeah, I have a lot of issues selecting text in Safari, as well as getting the copy/paste menu to stay on the screen more than one microsecond.

     

    Argh! Those two things are extremely annoying!

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  • Reply 36 of 43
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 3,208member

    Next piece of the puzzle is to see if the Continuity, Calls, Hotspot, and AirDrop stuff will work through a 3rd party BTLE 4.0 dongle on an older mac. I installed 10.10 Yosemite on a late 2009 iMac (no onboard BTLE 4.0) overnight, and as perhaps expected, AirDrop did not function on it. The question remains if Apple intentionally designed the systems to be sure they only function with on-board BTLE 4.0 support - that you bought with a new(er) mac - or that they enabled some retrofitting. 

     

    I'm guessing the former, but don't own a dongle. I'll buy one that is reported to function, and would be very happy. Perhaps someone with a dongle and old mac can try it and report results?

     

    I'm not sure Apple would specifically disable a functionality, but perhaps there are technical reasons. 

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  • Reply 37 of 43
    musomuso Posts: 34member
    Seems all the fun stuff only works with new Macs. Bummer.
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  • Reply 38 of 43
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    philboogie wrote: »
    The Photos app for the Mac is indeed 'early 2015' but the viewing of your Photos in iCloud is supposedly coming this Monday:



    1000
    That's awful. I'm guessing this is the result of such gargantuan HW & SW releases all directly after a keynote. I think I have downloaded over 16 gigs today from Apple alone.

    Check this out. The system works all the way to the end then I get this ... this was at the point of selecting what time they called me back. It is the same on live chat or email.

    1000
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  • Reply 39 of 43
    Check this out. The system works all the way to the end then I get this ...

    1) That sucks. I had that on a different (Dutch) site: I went through all 11 pages and at the end there was no submit button. How's that for a wrecked webpage?

    2) You have a short lastname. You're not Michael Dell by any chance are you¿
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  • Reply 40 of 43
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 3,208member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Muso View Post



    Seems all the fun stuff only works with new Macs. Bummer.

    But not shocking or terribly unreasonable. 10.10 is free. iOS 8.1 is free. iWork (etc) is free. AAPL makes hardware, and they want you to buy that from them. And I will when I can't live without the new "fun stuff." Every consumer has a value point. Options are good.

     

    But dammit, all I see when I look at my wrist is...my wrist!

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