Evidence shows Apple operating a mysterious Web crawling bot

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  • Reply 41 of 104
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member

    True. And Jobs was right, no one bought the big screen phones back then. Dvorak is always wrong on the other hand.

    Of course I knew that you'd cop a plea instead of having some integrity and admitting he was wrong.
  • Reply 42 of 104
    shsfshsf Posts: 302member



    First of all, after Page's incredible marketing idiocies referencing while slighting a Steve no longer capable of replying, in this realm at least,

     

    we have this:

     



    When are some people going to fucking realise that marketing is not be all and end all and they should let the man rest in peace? Also if they had an inkling of sense at samsung they'd figure out it's not doing them any favours either. 

     

    That's my first point.

     

    My second point is, what Steve said, was absolutely correct.

     

    Let's compare the phone sizes people choose, between 6 or 6 plus, that is a slightly larger (since now the screen takes up more space) iPhone, the 6, and a mini computer as the 6 plus. I wager most people opt for the 6. That's really an evolved iPhone 1 in size, since it's slimmer with a slightly larger screen. It's not a "big" phone by any means. The 6 plus is big, but it's way more than a phone, and the apps make it more of a mini computer. That's not the same as creating some phablet monstrosity and sticking crap android apps that pretty much make it just a bigger phone, and claiming you brought anything to the table. 

     

    If you want my personal opinion I opted for the 6 plus, which I am not planning to use as a phone, but as a mini computer instead of the iPad mini, I ll stick a sim for the wireless too, and maybe hand the number out to a few people, and that's just about that. For proper phone usage I am eyeing a blackberry or a 5s.

     

    People generally don't want big phones, if they can get a big screen size phone and use it as some sort of convergence device, they do, but that's about it.

     

    (And the nerve of the idiots at samsung who copied Steve's iPad (which was just a "big iPod touch") and stuck google's stolen ip, then shrunk it, re-shrunk it, enlarged it, changed aspects, elongated it, stuck a pen to it, poorly designed it, called it a phablet, a tablet, a phone, a whatever trying to get something to catch on... and it's still, well, shit, in whatever incarnation.))

  • Reply 43 of 104
    idreyidrey Posts: 647member
    sestewart wrote: »
    John C Dvorak's prediction coming true? 


    How Long Before Apple Gets a Search Engine?
    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2458892,00.asp
     

    <ul style="border:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);list-style-type:none;margin-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><li style="border:0px;padding-right:20px;padding-top:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">JUNE 4, 2014


    Yeah, I know.. you guys will probably hate me for bringing up the guy that said the mouse will never catch on. 


    :-D NoAgendaShow FTW</li>

    </ul>

    I liked the read! I would also like to have an apple search
  • Reply 44 of 104
    bcodebcode Posts: 141member

    Apple Maps data corroboration is my guess.

  • Reply 45 of 104
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    shsf wrote: »

    First of all, after Page's incredible marketing idiocies referencing while slighting a Steve no longer capable of replying, in this realm at least,

    we have this:

    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="52087" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/52087/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 243px">



    When are some people going to fucking realise that marketing is not be all and end all and they should let the man rest in peace? Also if they had an inkling of sense at samsung they'd figure out it's not doing them any favours either. 

    That's my first point.

    My second point is, what Steve said, was absolutely correct.

    Let's compare the phone sizes people choose, between 6 or 6 plus, that is a slightly larger (since now the screen takes up more space) iPhone, the 6, and a mini computer as the 6 plus. I wager most people opt for the 6. That's really an evolved iPhone 1 in size, since it's slimmer with a slightly larger screen. It's not a "big" phone by any means. The 6 plus is big, but it's way more than a phone, and the apps make it more of a mini computer. That's not the same as creating some phablet monstrosity and sticking crap android apps that pretty much make it just a bigger phone, and claiming you brought anything to the table. 

    If you want my personal opinion I opted for the 6 plus, which I am not planning to use as a phone, but as a mini computer instead of the iPad mini, I ll stick a sim for the wireless too, and maybe hand the number out to a few people, and that's just about that. For proper phone usage I am eyeing a blackberry or a 5s.

    People generally don't want big phones, if they can get a big screen size phone and use it as some sort of convergence device, they do, but that's about it.

    (And the nerve of the idiots at samsung who copied Steve's iPad (which was just a "big iPod touch") and stuck google's stolen ip, then shrunk it, re-shrunk it, enlarged it, changed aspects, elongated it, stuck a pen to it, poorly designed it, called it a phablet, a tablet, a phone, a whatever trying to get something to catch on... and it's still, well, shit, in whatever incarnation.))

    Nice job moving the goal posts. Well done.
  • Reply 46 of 104
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Of course I knew that you'd cop a plea instead of having some integrity and admitting he was wrong.

    He wasn't wrong...at the time. No one bought those phones when he said that. And even today phablets make up what, 5% of the market?

    Jobs wasn't afraid to change his mind, and "not invented here" is not an issue at Apple.
    shsf wrote: »

    First of all, after Page's incredible marketing idiocies referencing while slighting a Steve no longer capable of replying, in this realm at least,

    we have this:

    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="52087" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/52087/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 243px">



    When are some people going to fucking realise that marketing is not be all and end all and they should let the man rest in peace? Also if they had an inkling of sense at samsung they'd figure out it's not doing them any favours either. 

    That's my first point.

    My second point is, what Steve said, was absolutely correct.

    Let's compare the phone sizes people choose, between 6 or 6 plus, that is a slightly larger (since now the screen takes up more space) iPhone, the 6, and a mini computer as the 6 plus. I wager most people opt for the 6. That's really an evolved iPhone 1 in size, since it's slimmer with a slightly larger screen. It's not a "big" phone by any means. The 6 plus is big, but it's way more than a phone, and the apps make it more of a mini computer. That's not the same as creating some phablet monstrosity and sticking crap android apps that pretty much make it just a bigger phone, and claiming you brought anything to the table. 

    If you want my personal opinion I opted for the 6 plus, which I am not planning to use as a phone, but as a mini computer instead of the iPad mini, I ll stick a sim for the wireless too, and maybe hand the number out to a few people, and that's just about that. For proper phone usage I am eyeing a blackberry or a 5s.

    People generally don't want big phones, if they can get a big screen size phone and use it as some sort of convergence device, they do, but that's about it.

    (And the nerve of the idiots at samsung who copied Steve's iPad (which was just a "big iPod touch") and stuck google's stolen ip, then shrunk it, re-shrunk it, enlarged it, changed aspects, elongated it, stuck a pen to it, poorly designed it, called it a phablet, a tablet, a phone, a whatever trying to get something to catch on... and it's still, well, shit, in whatever incarnation.))

    I've been saying similar to the people whining they don't make a 3.5" size, and don't appear to be continuing the 4" size: it's no longer a phone for most people, it's a pocket computer, and as such, people want a bigger screen. But not too big, which is why the phablets are still a small part of the market. Profitable (for Apple at least) but small.
  • Reply 47 of 104
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    bcode wrote: »
    Apple Maps data corroboration is my guess.

    That would be one way to get (or verify) updated location and contact info for businesses in your by database without manually contacting each one.
  • Reply 48 of 104
    idreyidrey Posts: 647member
    wizard69 wrote: »
    Prepartions to own the world.

    It seems like that at times, and they are doing it little by little at a steady pace. Computer, music, movies, cellphones, siri, maps and now apple pay scary
  • Reply 49 of 104
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    He wasn't wrong...at the time. No one bought those phones when he said that. And even today phablets make up what, 5% of the market?

    So why build a big screen phone? If the best selling phone was 4" then why the need to go bigger not once but twice?
  • Reply 50 of 104
    plovellplovell Posts: 826member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    Apple owns the entire 17 block? I didn’t know that.

     


     

    Some companies think ahead !

     

    But guess who has the first Class A. And has wasted it ?? What a shame.

  • Reply 51 of 104
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,584member
    He wasn't wrong...at the time. No one bought those phones when he said that. And even today phablets make up what, 5% of the market?
    At the beginning of the year smartphones with displays 5.5 and larger were reported to be more than 10% of the market. Surely much higher than that now.
    http://www.canalys.com/newsroom/third-smart-phones-shipped-q1-had-5-plus-displays
  • Reply 52 of 104
    plovellplovell Posts: 826member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheWhiteFalcon View Post



    Also, I always think its cool that Apple owns a whole Class A IP block.

     

    Some companies "got" the Internet earlier than others.

     


    ...a whole Class A IP block. Odd that MS never requested one.


     


    I am sure it did. But by then it was too late.

  • Reply 53 of 104
    christophbchristophb Posts: 1,482member
    plovell wrote: »
    Some companies think ahead !

    But guess who has the first Class A. And has wasted it ?? What a shame.

    0/8 -2/8 were reserved. 3/8 went to GE. 4/8 went to BBN Planet which was eventually bought by Nortel ( I think) and I think it's Level3 owned today. 5/8 was reserved ,6/8 & 7/8 was DoD, 8/8 went BBN again, 9/8 to IBM, 10/8 went to us all, 11/8 to DoD, 12/8 to AT&T.

    All these allocations were a time before classless routing.


    Not counting the authority, BBN got the first /8 in 1992. I never found why BBN wasn't given 3/8. Anyone remember?
  • Reply 54 of 104
    christophbchristophb Posts: 1,482member
    plovell wrote: »
    Some companies "got" the Internet earlier than others.

    MS recently (2013) bought a bunch of Nortel allocations at auction for $11 per IP. They still had to justify the use to ARIN or ARIN could have yanked them back.
  • Reply 55 of 104
    plovellplovell Posts: 826member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ChristophB View Post





    0/8 -2/8 were reserved. 3/8 went to GE. 4/8 went to BBN Planet which was eventually bought by Nortel ( I think) and I think it's Level3 owned today. 5/8 was reserved ,6/8 & 7/8 was DoD, 8/8 went BBN again, 9/8 to IBM, 10/8 went to us all, 11/8 to DoD, 12/8 to AT&T.



    All these allocations were a time before classless routing.





    Not counting the authority, BBN got the first /8 in 1992. I never found why BBN wasn't given 3/8. Anyone remember?



    GE got its allocation way back in the mists of time. Around the time that Multics was still around and this new thing called "Unix" was coming along. GE was heavily involved, as was BBN.

  • Reply 56 of 104
    christophbchristophb Posts: 1,482member
    plovell wrote: »

    GE got its allocation way back in the mists of time. Around the time that Multics was still around and this new thing called "Unix" was coming along. GE was heavily involved, as was BBN.

    Then I have it backwards. Thought BBN got a slice in 1992 when prepping for their ISP business and GE got there's in '93 or '94.

    I'm astonished that Xerox doesn't have a single digit /8.

    Edit: funny bit of history, I was at a conference in Cambridge back before the commercial Internet and talking with engineers from DEC. Their learned consensus was that DECnet was the future and IP was a fad. Those guys must have gone to work for the carriers that didn't pick GSM.
  • Reply 57 of 104
    shsfshsf Posts: 302member

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    So why build a big screen phone? If the best selling phone was 4" then why the need to go bigger not once but twice?



    First of all, iPhone 6 with the larger screen is not bigger, the bezels are smaller and the device is slimmer, that makes it have a % more surface area than the original iPhone, but "bigger" it's not, per se. 

     

    Secondly, products evolve, software evolves too, I see the 6 plus as a convergence device, a mini computer. I told you my personal reason for buying it, so I could do some video, audio, and photo editing pro work on it, and other pro work on it, on a larger screen, but one that's more portable than the mini, and certainly more portable than the air. The apps make it much more than a phone. I didn't move no goal posts, apple has a larger iPhone, but certainly nowhere near the marketing (As opposed to market) trend for phablet-like phones, and their main phone remains an evolution of iPhone 1, which is actually lighter, less in volume, has thinner bezels and a slightly larger screen than the iPhone 1. 

     

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post





    At the beginning of the year smartphones with displays 5.5 and larger were reported to be more than 10% of the market. Surely much higher than that now.

    http://www.canalys.com/newsroom/third-smart-phones-shipped-q1-had-5-plus-displays

    So wait a second you mean to tell us that after Steve correctly predicted something, what 4-5 years ago or so, and after technology evolved so bezels can become much slimmer and devices much thinner so phones can incorporate larger screen sizes, and 3 years after every other manufacturer has been pushing for phablet sized phones, subsidising them to the nth, creating demand, playing on the need of people for convergence devices when they can't afford to own a tablet too, and advertising this asset ad nausem (because screens is the only thing they do well), and still the market is at about 10-12% say, that's actually a sign that people want phones with a big screen?

     

    You would think that after all that garbage by samsung and co about how Steve was wrong you'd look at the numbers and get a landslide 60% - 70% of users opting for large screen phones and apple panting and pandering after that market. And hell, it's 15% at most? Does that make for a convincing argument, I think not. I think it further validates the fact that Steve was absolutely right, and he needn't be, it's technology anyway, it evolves.

     

    And I 'll continue saying that the way Larry Page and Samsung keep bringing him up to slight his memory is simply disgraceful. One way or the other, they are getting frenched though, because Steve left a great leader at the helm of apple.

  • Reply 58 of 104
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    shsf wrote: »
    First of all, iPhone 6 with the larger screen is not bigger, the bezels are smaller and the device is slimmer, that makes it have a % more surface area than the original iPhone, but "bigger" it's not, per se.

    To back up your comment:
    solipsismx wrote:

    RELEASE DATE: earliest to most recent
    1. iPhone: 3.5"; 135 g; 115 mm × 61 mm × 11.6 mm = 81,374 mm<sup>3</sup>
    2. iPhone 3G: 3.5"; 133 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>
    3. iPhone 3GS: 3.5"; 135 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>
    4. iPhone 4: 3.5"; 137 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
    5. iPhone 4S: 3.5"; 140 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
    6. Galaxy Note 2: 5.5"; 185 g; 151.1 mm × 80.5 mm × 9.7 mm = 117,986 mm<sup>3</sup>
    7. iPhone 5: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
    8. iPhone 5S: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
    9. iPhone 5C: 4.0"; 132 g; 124.4 mm × 59.2 mm × 8.97 mm = 66,059 mm<sup>3</sup>
    10. Google Nexus 5: 4.95"; 130g; 137.84 mm × 69.17 mm × 8.59 mm = 81,900 mm <sup>3</sup>
    11. Samsung Galaxy S5: 5.1"; 145 g; 142 mm × 72.5 mm × 8.1 mm = 83,390 mm<sup>3</sup>
    12. iPhone 6: 4.7"; 129 g; 138.1 mm × 67.0 mm × 6.9 mm = 63,844 mm<sup>3</sup>
    13. iPhone 6 Plus: 5.5"; 172 g; 158.1 mm × 77.8 mm × 7.1 mm = 87,331 mm <sup>3</sup>
    14. Samsung Note 4: 5.7"; 176 g; 153.5 mm × 78.6 mm × 8.5 mm = 102,553 mm <sup>3</sup>
    15. Google Nexus 6: 5.96"; 184g; 159.26 mm × 82.98 mm × 10.06 mm = 132,947 mm <sup>3</sup>


    DISPLAY SIZE: smallest to largest
    1. iPhone: 3.5"; 135 g; 115 mm × 61 mm × 11.6 mm = 81,374 mm<sup>3</sup>
    2. iPhone 3G: 3.5"; 133 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>
    3. iPhone 3GS: 3.5"; 135 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>
    4. iPhone 4: 3.5"; 137 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
    5. iPhone 4S: 3.5"; 140 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
    6. iPhone 5: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
    7. iPhone 5S: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
    8. iPhone 5C: 4.0"; 132 g; 124.4 mm × 59.2 mm × 8.97 mm = 66,059 mm<sup>3</sup>
    9. iPhone 6: 4.7"; 129 g; 138.1 mm × 67.0 mm × 6.9 mm = 63,844 mm<sup>3</sup>
    10. Google Nexus 5: 4.95"; 130g; 137.84 mm × 69.17 mm × 8.59 mm = 81,900 mm <sup>3</sup>
    11. Samsung Galaxy S5: 5.1"; 145 g; 142 mm × 72.5 mm × 8.1 mm = 83,390 mm <sup>3</sup>
    12. Galaxy Note 2: 5.5"; 185 g; 151.1 mm × 80.5 mm × 9.7 mm = 117,986 mm<sup>3</sup>
    13. iPhone 6 Plus: 5.5"; 172 g; 158.1 mm × 77.8 mm × 7.1 mm = 87,331 mm<sup>3</sup>
    14. Samsung Note 4: 5.7"; 176 g; 153.5 mm × 78.6 mm × 8.5 mm = 102,553 mm <sup>3</sup>
    15. Google Nexus 6: 5.96"; 184g; 159.26 mm × 82.98 mm × 10.06 mm = 132,947 mm <sup>3</sup>


    WEIGHT: lightest to heaviest
    1. iPhone 5: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
    2. iPhone 5S: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
    3. iPhone 6: 4.7"; 129 g; 138.1 mm × 67.0 mm × 6.9 mm = 63,844 mm<sup>3</sup>
    4. iPhone 5C: 4.0"; 132 g; 124.4 mm × 59.2 mm × 8.97 mm = 66,059 mm<sup>3</sup>
    5. iPhone 3G: 3.5"; 133 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>
    6. Phone: 3.5"; 135 g; 115 mm × 61 mm × 11.6 mm = 81,374 mm<sup>3</sup>
    7. Phone 3GS: 3.5"; 135 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>
    8. iPhone 4: 3.5"; 137 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
    9. iPhone 4S: 3.5"; 140 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
    10. Google Nexus 5: 4.95"; 130g; 137.84 mm × 69.17 mm × 8.59 mm = 81,900 mm <sup>3</sup>
    11. Samsung Galaxy S5: 5.1"; 145 g; 142 mm × 72.5 mm × 8.1 mm = 83,390 mm<sup>3</sup>
    12. iPhone 6 Plus: 5.5"; 172 g; 158.1 mm × 77.8 mm × 7.1 mm = 87,331 mm <sup>3</sup>
    13. Samsung Note 4: 5.7"; 176 g; 153.5 mm × 78.6 mm × 8.5 mm = 102,553 mm <sup>3</sup>
    14. Google Nexus 6: 5.96"; 184g; 159.26 mm × 82.98 mm × 10.06 mm = 132,947 mm <sup>3</sup>
    15. Galaxy Note 2: 5.5"; 185 g; 151.1 mm × 80.5 mm × 9.7 mm = 117,986 mm<sup>3</sup>


    BOX VOLUME: smallest to largest*
    1. iPhone 5: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
    2. iPhone 5S: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
    3. iPhone 4: 3.5"; 137 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
    4. iPhone 4S: 3.5"; 140 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
    5. iPhone 6: 4.7"; 129 g; 138.1 mm × 67.0 mm × 6.9 mm = 63,844 mm<sup>3</sup>
    6. iPhone 5C: 4.0"; 132 g; 124.4 mm × 59.2 mm × 8.97 mm = 66,059 mm<sup>3</sup>
    7. Phone: 3.5"; 135 g; 115 mm × 61 mm × 11.6 mm = 81,374 mm<sup>3</sup>
    8. Google Nexus 5: 4.95"; 130g; 137.84 mm × 69.17 mm × 8.59 mm = 81,900 mm <sup>3</sup>
    9. Samsung Galaxy S5: 145 g; 142 mm × 72.5 mm × 8.1 mm = 83,390 mm <sup>3</sup>
    10. iPhone 6 Plus: 172 g; 158.1 mm × 77.8 mm × 7.1 mm = 87,331 mm <sup>3</sup>
    11. iPhone 3G: 3.5"; 133 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>
    12. Phone 3GS: 3.5"; 135 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>
    13. Samsung Note 4: 176 g; 153.5 mm × 78.6 mm × 8.5 mm = 102,553 mm<sup>3</sup>
    14. Galaxy Note 2: 5.5"; 185 g; 151.1 mm × 80.5 mm × 9.7 mm = 117,986 mm<sup>3</sup>
    15. Google Nexus 6: 5.96"; 184g; 159.26 mm × 82.98 mm × 10.06 mm = 132,947 mm <sup>3</sup>


    DEPTH: thinnest to thickest
    1. iPhone 6: 4.7"; 129 g; 138.1 mm × 67.0 mm × 6.9 mm = 63,844 mm<sup>3</sup>
    2. iPhone 6 Plus: 172 g; 158.1 mm × 77.8 mm × 7.1 mm = 87,331 mm<sup>3</sup>
    3. iPhone 5: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
    4. iPhone 5S: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
    5. Samsung Galaxy S5: 145 g; 142 mm × 72.5 mm × 8.1 mm = 83,390 mm <sup>3</sup>
    6. Samsung Note 4: 176 g; 153.5 mm × 78.6 mm × 8.5 mm = 102,553 mm <sup>3</sup>
    7. Google Nexus 5: 4.95"; 130g; 137.84 mm × 69.17 mm × 8.59 mm = 81,900 mm <sup>3</sup>
    8. iPhone 5C: 4.0"; 132 g; 124.4 mm × 59.2 mm × 8.97 mm = 66,059 mm<sup>3</sup>
    9. iPhone 4: 3.5"; 137 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
    10. iPhone 4S: 3.5"; 140 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
    11. Galaxy Note 2: 5.5"; 185 g; 151.1 mm × 80.5 mm × 9.7 mm = 117,986 mm<sup>3</sup>
    12. Google Nexus 6: 5.96"; 184g; 159.26 mm × 82.98 mm × 10.06 mm = 132,947 mm <sup>3</sup>
    13. Phone: 3.5"; 135 g; 115 mm × 61 mm × 11.6 mm = 81,374 mm<sup>3</sup>
    14. iPhone 3G: 3.5"; 133 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>
    15. Phone 3GS: 3.5"; 135 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>

    * This measurement is the least accurate because it can't account for exact volume do to curves that reduce volume as well as make it easier to hold, especially in the case of the iPhone 3G/3GS where the thickest part was the center ridge line with tapered sides thus allowing the thenar eminence to work better than with the squared sides of the iPhone 4/4S/5/5S.
  • Reply 59 of 104
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    shsf wrote: »
    So wait a second you mean to tell us that after Steve correctly predicted something, what 4-5 years ago or so, and after technology evolved so bezels can become much slimmer and devices much thinner so phones can incorporate larger screen sizes, and 3 years after every other manufacturer has been pushing for phablet sized phones, subsidising them to the nth, creating demand, playing on the need of people for convergence devices when they can't afford to own a tablet too, and advertising this asset ad nausem (because screens is the only thing they do well), and still the market is at about 10-12% say, that's actually a sign that people want phones with a big screen?

    You would think that after all that garbage by samsung and co about how Steve was wrong you'd look at the numbers and get a landslide 60% - 70% of users opting for large screen phones and apple panting and pandering after that market. And hell, it's 15% at most? Does that make for a convincing argument, I think not. I think it further validates the fact that Steve was absolutely right, and he needn't be, it's technology anyway, it evolves.

    And I 'll continue saying that the way Larry Page and Samsung keep bringing him up to slight his memory is simply disgraceful. One way or the other, they are getting frenched though, because Steve left a great leader at the helm of apple.

    Nice try at redirecting. Answer the question. It's a big phone no matter how you look at it. Thinness doesn’t change how long or wide it is. And yes people bought them, so much so that Apple had to go that route, or potentially start losing customers at a noticeable rate.
  • Reply 60 of 104
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,584member
    shsf wrote: »
    First of all, iPhone 6 with the larger screen is not bigger, the bezels are smaller and the device is slimmer, that makes it have a % more surface area than the original iPhone, but "bigger" it's not, per se

    Umm, yeah it IS bigger, per se. A LOT bigger.

    Original iPhone you mentioned:
    115 mm (4.5 in) H; 61 mm (2.4 in) W; 11.6 mm (0.46 in) D

    iPhone 6:
    138.1 mm (5.44 in) H; 67 mm (2.64 in) W; 6.3 mm (0.27 in) D
    1000
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