I can't wait for robots to replace 80% of the workforce.
Exactly! Ridiculous demands like breaks, lunch, and being paid on time. Labor laws are lame. We need to get back to the good ole days when we had things like child labor.
There are way too many people here who show themselves to be nothing but Apple apologists regardless of the issue. It's a company. It's not perfect. The reason I personally like Tim Cook is that he knows this and is pushing a Apple to always be better.
Exactly! Ridiculous demands like breaks, lunch, and being paid on time. Labor laws are lame. We need to get back to the good ole days when we had things like child labor.
There are way too many people here who show themselves to be nothing but Apple apologists regardless of the issue. It's a company. It's not perfect. The reason I personally like Tim Cook is that he knows this and is pushing a Apple to always be better.
Rest assured, the day that a good deal of the labor we currently interact with will become more automated and replaced. Automation reduces risk and cost and the combined rise of Apple's security solution, artificial intelligence, some robotic automation and rising labor costs (combined with a dearth of qualified, well-educated employees) ensure big changes are coming, ready or not.
when they do, they will also replace 80% of 'the market', i.e., humans who have money to pay for stuff and keep the economy going.
when they do, who will be left to buy whatever it is that the company you work for makes or does?
you better hope the 1% is your market, otherwise you'll be going hungry.
then we'll see who whines about entitlement.
It’s amazing that people actually believe this. As though the entirety of human history hasn’t been about creating technology to keep us from doing garbage we shouldn’t have to do anymore.
I guess everyone who worked at an establishment that washed laundry by hand just died off, then, because when the washing machine was invented their jobs were taken.
It’s amazing that people actually believe this. As though the entirety of human history hasn’t been about creating technology to keep us from doing garbage we shouldn’t have to do anymore.
I guess everyone who worked at an establishment that washed laundry by hand just died off, then, because when the washing machine was invented their jobs were taken.
I know you're a pretty smart person, cartography & all, but a much smarter person, Stephen Hawking, says otherwise.
There's a big difference between a washing machine and a machine that does your washing, cleaning, cooking, all without an iota of effort on your part.
Time will tell, though I hope not to live long enough to see it.
Bet they go down for maintenance for longer than a measly 15 minutes...
But can be swapped out for an idle spare that, while sitting in the backroom uses no electricity; just the carrying cost of initially purchasing a few extras to swap in while taking one off the floor for maintenance or repair. Bring on the robots.
Exactly! Ridiculous demands like breaks, lunch, and being paid on time. Labor laws are lame. We need to get back to the good ole days when we had things like child labor.
There are way too many people here who show themselves to be nothing but Apple apologists regardless of the issue. It's a company. It's not perfect. The reason I personally like Tim Cook is that he knows this and is pushing a Apple to always be better.
You touched on the issue here, but only to make an absurd suggestion. I'd be willing to bet these labor laws were indeed enacted to protect a different class of worker versus an Apple retail employee. Likely to protect factory workers who have little job mobility and are therefore much more subject to employer exploitation. Applying the same draconian standards to jobs that are far more dynamic in nature seems to be the absurdity. An example being an Apple employee 95% of the way through dealing with a complex customer issue, but, oops, it's my mandatory break time, let me get someone else over here to take over. And no, I cannot explain to them where in the process I am and the three simple steps they need to complete the work because... it's my break time RIGHT NOW. It's the outdated laws that need to adjust to the changing environment, not the other way around.
I know you're a pretty smart person, cartography & all, but a much smarter person, Stephen Hawking, says otherwise.
There's a big difference between a washing machine and a machine that does your washing, cleaning, cooking, all without an iota of effort on your part.
Time will tell, though I hope not to live long enough to see it.
Here is Hawking's actual quote AND the context:
"Prof Stephen Hawking, one of Britain's pre-eminent scientists, has said that efforts to create thinking machines pose a threat to our very existence.
He told the BBC:"The development of full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race."
His warning came in response to a question about a revamp of the technology he uses to communicate, which involves a basic form of AI."
Obviously, Hawking has no way of knowing how strong AI will ultimately develop since it has not yet arrived. He's a physicist and cosmologist, not a psychic.
As for the last part of your comment, I hope I live long enough for me to be able to either transfer my consciousness or brain into an artificial body, or replace most of my aging and inherently flawed "components" with something much stronger and reliable. ????
Bet they go down for maintenance for longer than a measly 15 minutes...
But can be swapped out for an idle spare that, while sitting in the backroom uses no electricity; just the carrying cost of initially purchasing a few extras to swap in while taking one off the floor for maintenance or repair. Bring on the robots.
lol
Bring on the managers - that's the 'workaround' for people off the sales floor on breaks.
Let me know when you're done eliminating jobs, then we can count how many people can
still afford Apple products...and food...and school...and gas..and rent...
I know you’re a pretty smart person, cartography & all...
Could you not?
but a much smarter person, Stephen Hawking, says otherwise.
No, that’s not at all what he said.
There's a big difference between a washing machine and a machine that does your washing, cleaning, cooking, all without an iota of effort on your part.
Washing machine. Dryer. Roomba. Dishwasher. Oven. Electric mixer. HOW HORRIBLE AND EVIL THIS WILL BE THE DOWNFALL OF THE HUMAN RACE.
Look. Work into systems designed to intelligently manage input is great. Work into AI is, at best, a dangerous psychosis.
The former has nothing to do with 3D printers and automated robotics taking over menial tasks from humans. Stop being a Luddite, because that’s exactly what you are. The day will come when fast food joints are not only staffed by ZERO people, but their resupply trucks will drive themselves to the locations and unload themselves into the buildings.
This is not a bad thing. Deleting these jobs is in no way wrong. We don’t have people whose job it is to sharpen rocks to make pointy bits that others wrap onto sticks anymore. We don’t have people whose job it is to hand-forge bronze vessels anymore. People are better now because of this, just as we will be better when convenience and grocery stores, fast food restaurants, and component manufacturing is without human input.
I’ll rightly laugh at you for suggesting humanity needs “basic income” or that work into robotics should be forcibly halted to save Burgerflip McNosepick’s pathetic career. But I’ll be first in line with electromagnet in hand to storm the first research facility that claims to have created an AI.
You seem to be under the impression that all Apple retail stores operate the same and are just as good as Apple's main campus. I worked at 2 Apple retail stores for 5 months and both were different in management. One had some lazy people in management and the other had a sexist assistant manager who had no problems talking about women as sex objects in front of other women employees at the store.
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There are way too many people here who show themselves to be nothing but Apple apologists regardless of the issue. It's a company. It's not perfect. The reason I personally like Tim Cook is that he knows this and is pushing a Apple to always be better.
Rest assured, the day that a good deal of the labor we currently interact with will become more automated and replaced. Automation reduces risk and cost and the combined rise of Apple's security solution, artificial intelligence, some robotic automation and rising labor costs (combined with a dearth of qualified, well-educated employees) ensure big changes are coming, ready or not.
The Entitlement Generation strikes again.
I can't wait for robots to replace 80% of the workforce.
when they do, they will also replace 80% of 'the market', i.e., humans who have money to pay for stuff and keep the economy going.
when they do, who will be left to buy whatever it is that the company you work for makes or does?
you better hope the 1% is your market, otherwise you'll be going hungry.
then we'll see who whines about entitlement.
when they do, they will also replace 80% of 'the market', i.e., humans who have money to pay for stuff and keep the economy going.
when they do, who will be left to buy whatever it is that the company you work for makes or does?
you better hope the 1% is your market, otherwise you'll be going hungry.
then we'll see who whines about entitlement.
It’s amazing that people actually believe this. As though the entirety of human history hasn’t been about creating technology to keep us from doing garbage we shouldn’t have to do anymore.
I guess everyone who worked at an establishment that washed laundry by hand just died off, then, because when the washing machine was invented their jobs were taken.
It’s amazing that people actually believe this. As though the entirety of human history hasn’t been about creating technology to keep us from doing garbage we shouldn’t have to do anymore.
I guess everyone who worked at an establishment that washed laundry by hand just died off, then, because when the washing machine was invented their jobs were taken.
I know you're a pretty smart person, cartography & all, but a much smarter person, Stephen Hawking, says otherwise.
There's a big difference between a washing machine and a machine that does your washing, cleaning, cooking, all without an iota of effort on your part.
Time will tell, though I hope not to live long enough to see it.
Bet they go down for maintenance for longer than a measly 15 minutes...
But can be swapped out for an idle spare that, while sitting in the backroom uses no electricity; just the carrying cost of initially purchasing a few extras to swap in while taking one off the floor for maintenance or repair. Bring on the robots.
Exactly! Ridiculous demands like breaks, lunch, and being paid on time. Labor laws are lame. We need to get back to the good ole days when we had things like child labor.
There are way too many people here who show themselves to be nothing but Apple apologists regardless of the issue. It's a company. It's not perfect. The reason I personally like Tim Cook is that he knows this and is pushing a Apple to always be better.
You touched on the issue here, but only to make an absurd suggestion. I'd be willing to bet these labor laws were indeed enacted to protect a different class of worker versus an Apple retail employee. Likely to protect factory workers who have little job mobility and are therefore much more subject to employer exploitation. Applying the same draconian standards to jobs that are far more dynamic in nature seems to be the absurdity. An example being an Apple employee 95% of the way through dealing with a complex customer issue, but, oops, it's my mandatory break time, let me get someone else over here to take over. And no, I cannot explain to them where in the process I am and the three simple steps they need to complete the work because... it's my break time RIGHT NOW. It's the outdated laws that need to adjust to the changing environment, not the other way around.
Here is Hawking's actual quote AND the context:
"Prof Stephen Hawking, one of Britain's pre-eminent scientists, has said that efforts to create thinking machines pose a threat to our very existence.
He told the BBC:"The development of full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race."
His warning came in response to a question about a revamp of the technology he uses to communicate, which involves a basic form of AI."
http://m.bbc.com/news/technology-30290540
Obviously, Hawking has no way of knowing how strong AI will ultimately develop since it has not yet arrived. He's a physicist and cosmologist, not a psychic.
As for the last part of your comment, I hope I live long enough for me to be able to either transfer my consciousness or brain into an artificial body, or replace most of my aging and inherently flawed "components" with something much stronger and reliable. ????
Bet they go down for maintenance for longer than a measly 15 minutes...
But can be swapped out for an idle spare that, while sitting in the backroom uses no electricity; just the carrying cost of initially purchasing a few extras to swap in while taking one off the floor for maintenance or repair. Bring on the robots.
lol
Bring on the managers - that's the 'workaround' for people off the sales floor on breaks.
Let me know when you're done eliminating jobs, then we can count how many people can
still afford Apple products...and food...and school...and gas..and rent...
Could you not?
No, that’s not at all what he said.
Washing machine. Dryer. Roomba. Dishwasher. Oven. Electric mixer. HOW HORRIBLE AND EVIL THIS WILL BE THE DOWNFALL OF THE HUMAN RACE.
Look. Work into systems designed to intelligently manage input is great. Work into AI is, at best, a dangerous psychosis.
The former has nothing to do with 3D printers and automated robotics taking over menial tasks from humans. Stop being a Luddite, because that’s exactly what you are. The day will come when fast food joints are not only staffed by ZERO people, but their resupply trucks will drive themselves to the locations and unload themselves into the buildings.
This is not a bad thing. Deleting these jobs is in no way wrong. We don’t have people whose job it is to sharpen rocks to make pointy bits that others wrap onto sticks anymore. We don’t have people whose job it is to hand-forge bronze vessels anymore. People are better now because of this, just as we will be better when convenience and grocery stores, fast food restaurants, and component manufacturing is without human input.
I’ll rightly laugh at you for suggesting humanity needs “basic income” or that work into robotics should be forcibly halted to save Burgerflip McNosepick’s pathetic career. But I’ll be first in line with electromagnet in hand to storm the first research facility that claims to have created an AI.
Yep. Apple : synonymous with "lazy".
You seem to be under the impression that all Apple retail stores operate the same and are just as good as Apple's main campus. I worked at 2 Apple retail stores for 5 months and both were different in management. One had some lazy people in management and the other had a sexist assistant manager who had no problems talking about women as sex objects in front of other women employees at the store.