IBM & Apple reveal first iOS apps in enterprise partnership, including travel, telecom, retail & gov

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  • Reply 21 of 54
    It's amazing what you can do on a "toy" and "consumption only" device ...
  • Reply 22 of 54
    mjtomlinmjtomlin Posts: 2,673member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KiltedGreen View Post



    It's amazing what you can do on a "toy" and "consumption only" device ...



    A tool's perceived limitation is the product of the user's lack of imagination.

  • Reply 23 of 54

    The apps themselves are relatively simple and do not cost much to develop. Decent requirements and some smart Ukrainians can create some whizzbang stuff for a few hundred thousand dollars. Where IBM will make billions is the implied and required data, services and infrastructure requirements that enable whizzbang apps to work. Data Architecture, new data warehouses/ODS, big data analytics, service-oriented architecture, ESBs and cloud servers, BPM managing workflows, etc. all are required to make the nifty apps work and many companies do not have most of the required elements to do it. Mobile apps typically require real-time, accurate data and most companies either have real-time, inaccurate data or batched accurate data but not both.

    Super smart for IBM since they can walk around with the goal state in hand getting oohs and aahs from clients, a foolproof hardware solution and billions in back-end hardware, software and services work. A no-brainer for Apple since they don't have to do much of anything to enable this to happen, just stand with IBM and give corporate discounts on large orders.

    Only MS has the weight to compete with this but talk about a war on multiple fronts. Google's not even in the picture. Even MS does not have the muscle to compete with IBM on most of the backend and services stuff.

  • Reply 24 of 54

    Still waiting for the Watson powered Siri for vertical markets where you can ask a technical question for your related field and get a useful answer.

  • Reply 25 of 54
    Still waiting for the Watson powered Siri for vertical markets where you can ask a technical question for your related field and get a useful answer.

    I'm eagerly awaiting the day advanced Watson services are offered to give legal and financial advice that is finally unbiased.
  • Reply 26 of 54
    robmrobm Posts: 1,068member
    capnbob wrote: »
    The apps themselves are relatively simple and do not cost much to develop. Decent requirements and some smart Ukrainians can create some whizzbang stuff for a few hundred thousand dollars. Where IBM will make billions is the implied and required data, services and infrastructure requirements that enable whizzbang apps to work. Data Architecture, new data warehouses/ODS, big data analytics, service-oriented architecture, ESBs and cloud servers, BPM managing workflows, etc. all are required to make the nifty apps work and many companies do not have most of the required elements to do it. Mobile apps typically require real-time, accurate data and most companies either have real-time, inaccurate data or batched accurate data but not both.
    Super smart for IBM since they can walk around with the goal state in hand getting oohs and aahs from clients, a foolproof hardware solution and billions in back-end hardware, software and services work. A no-brainer for Apple since they don't have to do much of anything to enable this to happen, just stand with IBM and give corporate discounts on large orders.
    Only MS has the weight to compete with this but talk about a war on multiple fronts. Google's not even in the picture. Even MS does not have the muscle to compete with IBM on most of the backend and services stuff.

    Yep.
    Boom ! Paradigm shift, right here and now.

    edit: that's if the corporates see the advantages, of course.
    Some IT advisors will fight tooth and nail against it - they simply won't have the control they've been able to wield in the past.
    Ya know, the old "We know better. " thing.
  • Reply 27 of 54
    robm wrote: »
    Yep.
    Boom ! Paradigm shift, right here and now.

    I think the favorite phrase marketing people have latched onto is now referred to as the "tipping point". All insider double-speak to essentially say something is now popular.
  • Reply 28 of 54
    robmrobm Posts: 1,068member
    lol. Yea - I just wanted to use "paradigm shift" once in my life. ;)
  • Reply 29 of 54
    knowitallknowitall Posts: 1,648member
    Maybe in time to finally reduce MS in the work place.
    IBM is almost as shrewd as MS in selling software to businesses, and IBM can actually write software (and make hardware) in a very good way.
    But Apple should be very careful not to show to much to IBM.
  • Reply 30 of 54
    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">This is awesome and it's just the beginning folks...</span>

    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">IBM is in a unique positions to provide </span>
    these very large scale business applications in a trusted and reliable environment on mobile devices.
    Apple's exclusive deal with IBM allows it to focus on the iOS platform and Swift language and ride the IBM applications into the enterprise.
    This is much bigger than most people realize, this is huge folks.

    <iframe width="640" height="385" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/v_Yf3Qgj5Y0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>
     

    <iframe width="640" height="385" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/jOuoa7zSuBs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>


    First video looks great!

    Second video reminds me of a Apple ][ app using 280×192 high-resolution graphics that Bruce Henderson was writing in 1979 ... What's that all about?
  • Reply 31 of 54
    knowitallknowitall Posts: 1,648member
    capnbob wrote: »
    The apps themselves are relatively simple and do not cost much to develop. Decent requirements and some smart Ukrainians can create some whizzbang stuff for a few hundred thousand dollars. Where IBM will make billions is the implied and required data, services and infrastructure requirements that enable whizzbang apps to work. Data Architecture, new data warehouses/ODS, big data analytics, service-oriented architecture, ESBs and cloud servers, BPM managing workflows, etc. all are required to make the nifty apps work and many companies do not have most of the required elements to do it. Mobile apps typically require real-time, accurate data and most companies either have real-time, inaccurate data or batched accurate data but not both.
    Super smart for IBM since they can walk around with the goal state in hand getting oohs and aahs from clients, a foolproof hardware solution and billions in back-end hardware, software and services work. A no-brainer for Apple since they don't have to do much of anything to enable this to happen, just stand with IBM and give corporate discounts on large orders.
    Only MS has the weight to compete with this but talk about a war on multiple fronts. Google's not even in the picture. Even MS does not have the muscle to compete with IBM on most of the backend and services stuff.

    Aaand, IBM might have a stake in future computing because they have deep knowledge in AI(*), from Deep Blue to current Watson.
    This could be realy big.

    (*) note that Google is investing heavily in this too and has acquired (mad scientist) Ray Kurzweil to lead the way ...
  • Reply 32 of 54
    mjtomlin wrote: »
    It's amazing what you can do on a "toy" and "consumption only" device ...


    A tool's perceived limitation is the product of the user's lack of imagination.

    "Give me a place to stand ..."
    -Archimedes-
  • Reply 33 of 54
    Still waiting for the Watson powered Siri for vertical markets where you can ask a technical question for your related field and get a useful answer.

    Nah!

    Instead, Sitting at a blackjack table in Vegas, with an 8 deck shoe ...

    An Apple Watch on my wrist and an iPhone in my pocket ... counting cards ...
  • Reply 34 of 54
    robm wrote: »
    capnbob wrote: »
    The apps themselves are relatively simple and do not cost much to develop. Decent requirements and some smart Ukrainians can create some whizzbang stuff for a few hundred thousand dollars. Where IBM will make billions is the implied and required data, services and infrastructure requirements that enable whizzbang apps to work. Data Architecture, new data warehouses/ODS, big data analytics, service-oriented architecture, ESBs and cloud servers, BPM managing workflows, etc. all are required to make the nifty apps work and many companies do not have most of the required elements to do it. Mobile apps typically require real-time, accurate data and most companies either have real-time, inaccurate data or batched accurate data but not both.
    Super smart for IBM since they can walk around with the goal state in hand getting oohs and aahs from clients, a foolproof hardware solution and billions in back-end hardware, software and services work. A no-brainer for Apple since they don't have to do much of anything to enable this to happen, just stand with IBM and give corporate discounts on large orders.
    Only MS has the weight to compete with this but talk about a war on multiple fronts. Google's not even in the picture. Even MS does not have the muscle to compete with IBM on most of the backend and services stuff.

    Yep.
    Boom ! Paradigm shift, right here and now.

    edit: that's if the corporates see the advantages, of course.
    Some IT advisors will fight tooth and nail against it - they simply won't have the control they've been able to wield in the past.
    Ya know, the old "We know better. " thing.


    You are right with your first answer!

    These solutions will be sold to someone in the enterprise with a pay grade much higher than IT or the CIO/CTO.
  • Reply 35 of 54
    prokipprokip Posts: 178member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post



    Good for Apple and IBM, although I must admit that since Snowden, the sound of some of these apps makes me feel very unsettled.

    You must troll the AI boards to be first to post you inane, stupid comments.  Get back to your day job...please!  And who gives a rats what you feel?

  • Reply 36 of 54
    knowitallknowitall Posts: 1,648member
    prokip wrote: »
    You must troll the AI boards to be first to post you inane, stupid comments.  Get back to your day job...please!  And who gives a rats what you feel?

    I do think that it is right to question big data and its sources, I also think that it's right to react on what other people feel, except if you are a psychopath of course.
  • Reply 37 of 54
    The airline photo is a modernized version of the WebObjects Demo we gave in 1996.
  • Reply 38 of 54
    robmrobm Posts: 1,068member
    You are right with your first answer!

    These solutions will be sold to someone in the enterprise with a pay grade much higher than IT or the CIO/CTO.

    Yea, you're right, Dick.

    Heck, what's not to like.
    We all know that money talks and BS walks when it comes to business.
    This partnership could save a single large corporate millions in IT costs alone let alone productivity gains.
    IBM have the sales team to sell this.

    edit: And there's likely to be an added bonus for Apple as the legacy corporate Beige boxes get replaced with iMacs or MBPs or even Mac Minis.
    It could work out very successfully for both companies.
  • Reply 39 of 54
    The guy in the picture may have severe Crohn's disease. So it is not that funny.

    Originally Posted by Disturbia View Post

     

    On related news, Larry Page is unable to hide his disappointment and sadness with his dumb android developers and shitting his pant ....

     

    :smokey:


  • Reply 40 of 54
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