Apple's OS X Spotlight found to ignore e-mail privacy settings

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  • Reply 21 of 34
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
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    Originally Posted by Bloodshotrollin'red View Post

    I never use Spotlight, it's trash. cmd F for me, every time.


    You delete files to search your computer?

    How does that work exactly?

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  • Reply 22 of 34
    darkvaderdarkvader Posts: 1,146member
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    Originally Posted by xixo View Post

     

    sherlock was better

     

    nothing that little snitch can't fix - now my spotlight does what its supposed to do - show me files on my mac that contain or are named what i'm searching for

     

    if i wanted to search the web for stuff, i'd just google it or ask siri - they ruined spotlight in yosemite

     

    this ranks up with the 'improved' green 'zoom' gumdrop that enters full screen mode with its annoying 'slide' visual transition.

     

    everytime that happens, it's another 3 seconds of my life i'll never get back (ok, 6, because I have to turn off full screen mode again)

     

    and please spare me the syncophatic rants about how apple UI is teh shiny - time to spend less money on stock buybacks and more on UI refinements that actually save time and accomplish useful work.




    Ugh, no kidding on the green button.  For almost 30 years, the zoom box and later the green dot behaved perfectly - zoom to max content size, then zoom back.  Then 10.9 came along, and it no longer worked quite right all the time, it sometimes made the window take up the entire screen, which I never want.  Now with 10.10, they went from a bit wrong to abysmally stupid.  I do not EVER want any app but a video player or presentation program to go into full screen mode.  There is NO reason I want it in a web browser, an email client, a spreadsheet, a word processor, or a database.  Full screen is the antithesis of productivity.  And outside of those limited cases, I'd love to be able to disable it entirely.

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  • Reply 23 of 34
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    I never use Spotlight, it's trash. cmd F for me, every time.

    I could be wrong but I would think Command F is still using Spotlight, just a Finder level subset.
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  • Reply 24 of 34
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    darkvader wrote: »

    Ugh, no kidding on the green button.  For almost 30 years, the zoom box and later the green dot behaved perfectly - zoom to max content size, then zoom back.  Then 10.9 came along, and it no longer worked quite right all the time, it sometimes made the window take up the entire screen, which I never want.  Now with 10.10, they went from a bit wrong to abysmally stupid.  I do not EVER want any app but a video player or presentation program to go into full screen mode.  There is NO reason I want it in a web browser, an email client, a spreadsheet, a word processor, or a database.  Full screen is the antithesis of productivity.  And outside of those limited cases, I'd love to be able to disable it entirely.

    Just hold the option key when you click on the green button.
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  • Reply 25 of 34
    xixoxixo Posts: 451member
    Just hold the option key when you click on the green button.

    Just put it back like it used to be, or give us a preference to do so.
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  • Reply 26 of 34
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xixo View Post

     

    sherlock was better

     

    nothing that little snitch can't fix - now my spotlight does what its supposed to do - show me files on my mac that contain or are named what i'm searching for

     

    if i wanted to search the web for stuff, i'd just google it or ask siri - they ruined spotlight in yosemite

     

    this ranks up with the 'improved' green 'zoom' gumdrop that enters full screen mode with its annoying 'slide' visual transition.

     

    everytime that happens, it's another 3 seconds of my life i'll never get back (ok, 6, because I have to turn off full screen mode again)

     

    and please spare me the syncophatic rants about how apple UI is teh shiny - time to spend less money on stock buybacks and more on UI refinements that actually save time and accomplish useful work.


     

    Just work in full screen mode, and you'll never have to click on the little green button again.

     

    Problem solved.

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  • Reply 27 of 34
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    Originally Posted by Bloodshotrollin'red View Post

     

    I never use Spotlight, it's trash. cmd F for me, every time.


     

     

    Wrong.

     

    Trash is to be found in the Dock.

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  • Reply 28 of 34
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    Originally Posted by DarkVader View Post

     
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by xixo View Post

     

    sherlock was better

     

    nothing that little snitch can't fix - now my spotlight does what its supposed to do - show me files on my mac that contain or are named what i'm searching for

     

    if i wanted to search the web for stuff, i'd just google it or ask siri - they ruined spotlight in yosemite

     

    this ranks up with the 'improved' green 'zoom' gumdrop that enters full screen mode with its annoying 'slide' visual transition.

     

    everytime that happens, it's another 3 seconds of my life i'll never get back (ok, 6, because I have to turn off full screen mode again)

     

    and please spare me the syncophatic rants about how apple UI is teh shiny - time to spend less money on stock buybacks and more on UI refinements that actually save time and accomplish useful work.




    Ugh, no kidding on the green button.  For almost 30 years, the zoom box and later the green dot behaved perfectly - zoom to max content size, then zoom back.  Then 10.9 came along, and it no longer worked quite right all the time, it sometimes made the window take up the entire screen, which I never want.  Now with 10.10, they went from a bit wrong to abysmally stupid.  I do not EVER want any app but a video player or presentation program to go into full screen mode.  There is NO reason I want it in a web browser, an email client, a spreadsheet, a word processor, or a database.  Full screen is the antithesis of productivity.  And outside of those limited cases, I'd love to be able to disable it entirely.


     

     

    Just change your work pattern to full screen mode, and you'll be more productive in no time.

     

    Problem solved.

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  • Reply 29 of 34
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    xixo wrote: »
    Just put it back like it used to be, or give us a preference to do so.

    Well actually I didn't change it ... ;)
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  • Reply 30 of 34
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member

    Yeah , I began getting concerned over the weekend after getting Little snitch finally installed and working on Yosemite. Little snitch goes crazy as soon as you begin typing in the spotlight search window. I know Apple said it will search the web, but I was trying to locate a file on my computer and it was making all sorts of connections everywhere else as well.

     

    Their is rumors Apple is coming out with its own search engine, well  I believe it is spotlight, because you can see spotlight making connections to all sorts of websites, I even seen connection to google analytics and other google websites which seem odd since I am now using bing as my default search tool. I have blocked most of the google connection from spotlight. But spotlight is doing some interesting things, that is for sure.

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  • Reply 31 of 34
    blah64blah64 Posts: 993member
    maestro64 wrote: »
    Yeah , I began getting concerned over the weekend after getting Little snitch finally installed and working on Yosemite. Little snitch goes crazy as soon as you begin typing in the spotlight search window. I know Apple said it will search the web, but I was trying to locate a file on my computer and it was making all sorts of connections everywhere else as well.

    Their is rumors Apple is coming out with its own search engine, well  I believe it is spotlight, because you can see spotlight making connections to all sorts of websites, I even seen connection to google analytics and other google websites which seem odd since I am now using bing as my default search tool. I have blocked most of the google connection from spotlight. But spotlight is doing some interesting things, that is for sure.

    This is the power of Little Snitch. Everyone should have it installed, if for nothing else to become educated at how invasive our computers/apps have become. I feel really sad for everyone else, because think about it... most people have no clue this is happening.

    Anyway, I absolutely LOVE the idea of Apple coming out with their own search engine. It's something I've talked about for many years. Think of the value even 10% of the search market would give Apple, and how much value it would take away from Google. But clearly it's really, really hard to get it right, and doing something like this Spotlight integration is a way for Apple to dip their toes in the water without a ton of consumer expectations. They can't afford to have a repeat of Maps.

    That said, I strongly disagree with the whole premise of blending local/web search. Not only does it send out personal information that you don't expect to be sent out over the internet (NEVER acceptable!), but how often are you searching for something that you're not sure if it's local or on the web? Almost never, so it's kind of stupid from that standpoint.
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  • Reply 32 of 34
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    Originally Posted by Blah64 View Post





    This is the power of Little Snitch. Everyone should have it installed, if for nothing else to become educated at how invasive our computers/apps have become. I feel really sad for everyone else, because think about it... most people have no clue this is happening.



    Anyway, I absolutely LOVE the idea of Apple coming out with their own search engine. It's something I've talked about for many years. Think of the value even 10% of the search market would give Apple, and how much value it would take away from Google. But clearly it's really, really hard to get it right, and doing something like this Spotlight integration is a way for Apple to dip their toes in the water without a ton of consumer expectations. They can't afford to have a repeat of Maps.



    That said, I strongly disagree with the whole premise of blending local/web search. Not only does it send out personal information that you don't expect to be sent out over the internet (NEVER acceptable!), but how often are you searching for something that you're not sure if it's local or on the web? Almost never, so it's kind of stupid from that standpoint.



    I like the idea of Little Snitch more than the implementation. It demanded constant attention, so I just installed Ghostery and Disconnect instead.

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  • Reply 33 of 34
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

    I like the idea of Little Snitch more than the implementation. It demanded constant attention, so I just installed Ghostery and Disconnect instead.


    This...

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  • Reply 34 of 34
    blah64blah64 Posts: 993member

    I like the idea of Little Snitch more than the implementation. It demanded constant attention, so I just installed Ghostery and Disconnect instead.

    I know this is going to sound Jobs-ian, but if it demanded your constant attention, then you weren't using it right. Or you didn't take time to train it.

    The way I use it, I prefer to have control all the time, but everyone should be able to simply refuse outbound net connections initiated by the apps without your action. Always. If you really want to check for an update, disable it for a minute. The problem is that these days so many apps phone home without your permission (or even knowledge), and desktop/laptop apps have complete run of every file on your computer. You have zero control over what these apps send out.

    Just shut off net access for most of your apps, then if you're bothered by Little Snitch's asking about the myriad of browser accesses (which I like, and train), use the tools you mentioned to deal with your browser.
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