Apple brings 2TB Mac mini configuration back to online store

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    aaarrrggghaaarrrgggh Posts: 1,609member
    mbsmd wrote: »
    rubaiyat wrote: »

    Having the backup in the same machine as your original work is a bad idea, for obvious reasons.
    So, so true. Remarkably bad idea.

    Depends on what you are using it for. Time Machine is great for snapshots and version control, but when you look at things like the ransomware Bit Locker, that type of backup is useless-- you either need a pulled backup that your computer only has read-only rights to, or you need an offline backup like rotated USB drives.

    The GP sounded like his use was version control as it was a development machine.
  • Reply 22 of 35
    plovellplovell Posts: 826member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mbsmd View Post

     
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rubaiyat View Post





    Having the backup in the same machine as your original work is a bad idea, for obvious reasons.


    So, so true. Remarkably bad idea.



    It's not so bad if you have a couple of backups. But not so cool if it's your only one.

  • Reply 23 of 35
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,742member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aaarrrgggh View Post



    Depends on what you are using it for. Time Machine is great for snapshots and version control, but when you look at things like the ransomware Bit Locker, that type of backup is useless-- you either need a pulled backup that your computer only has read-only rights to, or you need an offline backup like rotated USB drives.



    The GP sounded like his use was version control as it was a development machine.

     

    Exactly.  Let Time Machine work its magic in the background, then periodically clone bootable backups. 

     

    I've been using SuperDuper! since the days of OS X Leopard but the most recent version of Carbon Carbon Cloner got quite the UI makeover.  For anyone thinking of rotating cloned backups offsite, FileVault is an option, although external HDDs with built-in hardware encryption are very inexpensive these days.

  • Reply 24 of 35
    davendaven Posts: 707member
    What is Duet
    I have to say, since the last update to Duet my old iPad is now a pretty useful head to my previously headless 2013 Mac mini. An old iPad is perfect for the occasional tinkering on a Mac mini (in my case it is a server) although I still like using ARD (which is now all working properly again since 10.10.2) but never-the-less, better it is sitting proudly on a Mac mini than in a cupboard collecting dust. They have feelings you know ;) .

    Anyone thinking of using an old iPad and Duet for a Mac mini screen I suggest using kiosk mode (in the accessibility settings).

    What is Duet?
  • Reply 25 of 35
    Personally, I only find value in the Mac Mini when I can find a left over or open box for less than $400. There are just too many shortcomings to consider spending any more than that. I bought an open box 2012 Mac Mini from Best Buy for $349. Besides not having an optical drive I thought it was worth it just to be able to upgrade the memory and storage.
  • Reply 26 of 35
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,742member
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    Originally Posted by theSman View Post



    Personally, I only find value in the Mac Mini when I can find a left over or open box for less than $400. There are just too many shortcomings to consider spending amy more than that. I bought an open box 2013 Mac Mini from Best Buy for $349. Besides not having an optical drive I thought it was worth it just to be able to upgrade the memory.

     

    The '12 minis -- especially the i7 quad-core models -- were a great value, but I doubt you'll find many open box or NOS (new old stock) models at firesale prices since the '14s are all dual-core only.

  • Reply 27 of 35
    wigginwiggin Posts: 2,265member
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    Originally Posted by theSman View Post



    Personally, I only find value in the Mac Mini when I can find a left over or open box for less than $400. There are just too many shortcomings to consider spending amy more than that. I bought an open box 2013 Mac Mini from Best Buy for $349. Besides not having an optical drive I thought it was worth it just to be able to upgrade the memory.

     

    Other than that I don't think there is such a thing as a 2013 Mac mini (I assume you meant 2012), I agree. Just a few weeks ago I purchased an Apple refurbished (from the  Apple online store) late 2012 2.5 GHz dual-i5 mini for $419. Only 4 GB RAM and 500 GB drive, but easy enough to upgrade both of those for far less than Apple charges for RAM and storage ($800 for a 1 TB SSD, are you kidding me?!?!). The trade-offs (Thunderbolt 1 vs 2, wifi is N instead of AC, and the GPU is a little slower) is very much worth it in exchange for upgradeable RAM and storage. Plus the "legacy" Firewire port will still be put to good use given how flaky the Thunderbolt-Firewire adaptor is.

  • Reply 28 of 35
    john.b wrote: »
    Wondering why the top level 21" iMac doesn't offer the same 2TB Fusion drive option.

    Because Apple have decided not to offer it.
  • Reply 29 of 35
    inklinginkling Posts: 773member
    This story is of little relevance. What matters is whether Apple is reversing its moves to make a Mac mini useless as anything other than a fancier Apple TV. For those who can't afford the high cost of a Mac Pro, the Mac mini has been the only Mac with easily upgraded RAM and hard drive. Removing that removes from the Apple lineup what's standard in the PC market.

    And yes, I'm quite aware that marketing types think they're being oh-so clever to cripple hardware, selling it cheaper, and then make inflated profits making the hardware actually useful. I know there are some consumers that are that stupid. But there are a host of us who have nothing but contempt for that sort of behavior whether at Apple or anywhere else.

    For the record, I added 16 GB of new RAM to my Mac mini for less than what Apple would have charged me to merely increase it by 4 GB (4 GB to 8 GB). That's the sort of scam I'm referring to. As a business practice, it stinks.
  • Reply 30 of 35
    ^^^ Apple has always charged more for RAM. It's a valid criticism, but not even remotely a new one.
  • Reply 31 of 35

    $8 for a bucket of popcorn at the movies, worth 20¢, that stinks! <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> 

  • Reply 32 of 35
    marvfoxmarvfox Posts: 2,275member
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    ^^^ Apple has always charged more for RAM. It's a valid criticism, but not even remotely a new one.



    Just to soak the consumer for more money that is all Apple wants.

  • Reply 33 of 35
    marvfox wrote: »

    Just to soak the consumer for more money that is all Apple wants.

    No, to make their profit margins. As a consumer, you're free to buy or not buy.
  • Reply 34 of 35
    mactacmactac Posts: 318member
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    Originally Posted by rubaiyat View Post

     

    $8 for a bucket of popcorn at the movies, worth 20¢, that stinks! <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> 


    And that is because of the movie studios.

    For many movies the studios demand 100% from ticket sales for the first two weeks the movies are out.

    The only money the theater makes is off of concessions.

  • Reply 35 of 35
    joshajosha Posts: 901member
    The only thing that frustrates me about the new Mini is the soldered RAM. But it's not what you think; I'm frustrated because everyone freaked out about it, and the 2012 models didn't drop in price on the used market as much as they could have.

    Yes, I also hate the glued and soldered together Macs which restrict user repair and upgrade possibilities.
    My response was to buy a late 2012 Mini a few weeks after the 2014 model came out, at 18% off new in the box.
    It was the last one in my local computer store.
    It has about the same power as the latest bottom end 2014 Mini. It's FAST!
    Then got an SSD from OWC which I'll add to it.
    Sure hope it lasts a long time.
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