Shares of Apple dip more than 2% following downgrade from Japanese bank

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  • Reply 21 of 58
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    I still haven't decided if this is a net positive or negative. To a long, it's relatively immaterial since the annual gains are often substantial. For a company of their size and valuation, I cannot recall a similar company demonstrating such wild stock price swings (except during the first dot-com boom and bust).


     

    Personally, with AAPL trading the way it does, I have always believed in selling a portion of my shares at or close to what I believe is a high and then buying back more shares when AAPL hits a substantially lower price.

     

    Either way... hold or trade... AAPL has been good to its shareholders.

  • Reply 22 of 58
    I don't own any Apple shares so I don't really care personally. However, it seems strange this selling off is only due to one analyst's forecast. I think it's just a good opportunity for those looking to buy.
  • Reply 23 of 58
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    Personally, with AAPL trading the way it does, I have always believed in selling a portion of my shares at or close to what I believe is a high and then buying back more shares when AAPL hits a substantially lower price.

     

    Either way... hold or trade... AAPL has been good to its shareholders.


     

    I've never sold a single share of AAPL, I only keep adding to my "collection". The last time I bought big was 2008.

  • Reply 24 of 58
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    I've never sold a single share of AAPL, I only keep adding to my "collection". The last time I bought big was 2008.
    Ever considered adoption? I'd even call you Daddy... :D
  • Reply 25 of 58
    joshajosha Posts: 901member
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    I wonder how many shares those bad-mouthers bought after their comment drove the price down?Not enough to drive Apple stock too high.


    Yes they will gradually buy for their customers. After all they are an investment firm, not a bank !

    Of course their NEUTRAL comment on Apple is BS to swing the market.

     

    They then forecast Apple' high as: "The firm has pegged the upside for AAPL stock at between $130 and $140"

    That's hardly neutral and combined with their low for Apple, they really said nothing worthwhile.

  • Reply 26 of 58
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    I've never sold a single share of AAPL, I only keep adding to my "collection". The last time I bought big was 2008.


     

    Using the buy and never sell method... MSFT dwarfs all other companies over the last 25 years when it comes to gains.

  • Reply 27 of 58
    normmnormm Posts: 653member
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    Dudes, I definitely see the rationale. When anyone buys 70 million of ANYTHING, they aren't gonna do it again right away.

     

    The logic goes like this:  If Apple does incredibly well, sell because it won't do that well again next quarter.  On the other hand, if Apple doesn't do incredibly well, sell because its big growth is over.  So regardless of how Apple does, the conclusion is sell.  Do you see the problem with this logic?

  • Reply 28 of 58
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Well the stock market needs contrarians, too.  It's just sad that one contrarian can have such sway on a stock price. Suggests to me that those trading AAPL have no clue who or what to believe. That makes it a stock vulnerable to easy manipulation.  So, as others have said, this is a buying opportunity. And there will be others in the future, too.  In my opinion.

    The stock market is crazy. GoPro had a huge drop the other day all because of a published Apple patent. I'm sure part of the reason Apple is down is because of the new phone Xiaomi just announced. They purposely compared it to iPhone in their keynote and the western media ate it up.
  • Reply 29 of 58

    Analysts have been predicting the demise of Apple for 30 years. Unless there is some bad news lurking in the upcoming earnings report that only insiders and elite investors know about, most all the public news is positive for Apple. CarPlay, ApplePay, iPhone, Mac, all positive news. We shall see about the iWatch, but you know what other Apple product was predicted to fail? The iPad. 

     

    Having said all that, there is a skittishness about Apple shares that make every negative comment a reason to dump the stock, as if the market is just waiting for the bottom to fall out, yet it just never does. I also have the sense that Apple stock gets manipulated down before big earnings announcements, giving certain investors a nice extra bump. After all, when the market is dropping, SOMEONE is buying.

  • Reply 30 of 58
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    Using the buy and never sell method... MSFT dwarfs all other companies over the last 25 years when it comes to gains.




    Actually, GE and MO have both been very good to me.

  • Reply 31 of 58
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    The stock market is crazy. GoPro had a huge drop the other day all because of a published Apple patent. I'm sure part of the reason Apple is down is because of the new phone Xiaomi just announced. They purposely compared it to iPhone in their keynote and the western media ate it up.



    Capitalize on mass panics and irrational drops, then never sell. :D

  • Reply 32 of 58
    undedunded Posts: 43member
    Financial anal-yst are like weather forecaster: hit or miss.
  • Reply 33 of 58
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    Financial anal-yst are like weather forecaster: hit or miss.



    They aren't attempting to be accurate, they are attempting to make a profit for themselves and their customers.

  • Reply 34 of 58
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member
    pazuzu wrote: »
    Wait until after the Apple watch is released to buy.

    Totally. Then wait for the YouTube videos showing if you bake it in an over at 500°F for an hour it stops working. Fornogate. Fornogating videos will be all the rage wait and see! ;)
  • Reply 35 of 58
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member

    They aren't attempting to be accurate, they are attempting to make a profit for themselves and their customers.

    The good news is that means they eventually want to see AAPL back up there after they buy following their doomspeak. Hence I just hold for the long term.
  • Reply 36 of 58
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    Totally. Then wait for the YouTube videos showing if you bake it in an over at 500°F for an hour it stops working. Fornogate. image



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  • Reply 37 of 58
    waltgwaltg Posts: 90member
    I agree with a lot of people on here that Apple IS the most Abused Disrespected Company on Wall Street ! Ther is no other company in the world racking up these kinds of sales and profits and with a brighter outlook!! This latest bunch of bozos I belive are doing this as a ploy to get the stock to fall so they can buy more, and guess what,, they have achieved that.. Wall Street will never make any sense what so ever, and the analogy of they are like a bunch of gossiping old Biddies is so very true... Yes, time to buy.... W
  • Reply 38 of 58
    pdq2pdq2 Posts: 270member
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    Using the buy and never sell method... MSFT dwarfs all other companies over the last 25 years when it comes to gains.


     

    Weeeellll....

     

    Not exactly:

     

     

    (The red line is MSFT, and the blue line is...another famous company, compared over the last 25 years, exactly.)

  • Reply 39 of 58
    bageljoeybageljoey Posts: 2,004member
    pdq2 wrote: »
    Weeeellll....

    Not exactly:

    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="54336" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/54336/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 277px">


    (The red line is MSFT, and the blue line is...another famous company, compared over the last 25 years, exactly.)
    That graph actually understates AAPL's advantage with the buy periodically and hold method. Since MSFT peaked much earlier anything an investor bought less than 15 years ago will show only modest gains to present.
    OTOH, when an investor purchased and held AAPL stock 25, 20, 15, 10, 5 or even 2 years ago, it has ALL skyrocketed.
  • Reply 40 of 58
    bageljoeybageljoey Posts: 2,004member
    Why?

    Take a look at AAPL over the last 4 years.

    The swings are huge.
    So you are saying that an investment bank with scads of highly paid specialists do serious research into a company and offer their professional opinion that "the stock will either go way up, stay about the same, or go way down" (to paraphrase) and you defend their analysis by saying "well, their stock has gone up and down in the past" (to paraphrase again).

    They are not really "forecasting" if they just point to the last 4 years...
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