I agree... that being said, there is something inherently wrong when companies like Google and Amazon have high stock valuations even though they make less. If they applied that screwed-up logic to AAPL, it would have certainly been a $1T+ company a while back.
But but but jetpacks! Robot cars! Eavesdropping appliances that listen to everything you say! Every display surface festooned with ads! This is innovation! Come join us in the future!
Did you all see what Google stock did today after MISSING its targets? They were up just about the same percentage as Apple was after producing 1) a substantial YOY increase in net income and 2) the largest quarter of any US company ever. The stock market is a pretty screwy place.
Did you all see what Google stock did today after MISSING its targets?
They were up just about the same percentage as Apple was after producing 1) a substantial YOY increase in net income and 2) the largest quarter of any US company ever.
The stock market is a pretty screwy place.
Yep. Traders make individually "sensible" decisions, but the market in aggregate appears to be utter nonsense.
You guys do understand that intra-day levels don't count for anything, right? Call me when it breaks a record at the closing bell, otherwise you're wasting my (and your) time.
You guys do understand that intra-day levels don't count for anything, right? Call me when it breaks a record at the closing bell, otherwise you're wasting my (and your) time.
To underline that fact... the company that just posted the highest quarterly profit in corporate history closed down on the day.
<div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/184578/shares-of-apple-reach-new-all-time-high-of-120-after-record-holiday-quarter#post_2668960" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false">Quote:<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>TheWhiteFalcon</strong> <a href="/t/184578/shares-of-apple-reach-new-all-time-high-of-120-after-record-holiday-quarter#post_2668960"><img alt="View Post" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /><br />Still too low. How many records will Apple have to shatter before these bozos get it?</div></div><p>It it's too low, why not buy some? Not trying to be a smart@ss. I'm going to buy some after Icahn made his bullish statements.</p>
you are being a smart ass but being totally sensible. :thumbup:
Think the stock is undervalued then people can buy or they can go online and whine that the stock is too low. The latter seems to be popular
There is only a certain amount of money in the world, it is divided up amonst varies sectors, pension funds and mutual funds and money pouring in from 401k funds. It gets allocate across various indexes and asset classes with some very strict rules.
The resistance you call phony indicates a complete lack of understanding how money is allocated over time and a misunderstanding of the structural behavior of the market too.
Once you gain some basic knowledge you won't make these ignorant statements..
To underline that fact... the company that just posted the highest quarterly profit in corporate history closed down on the day.
Stock valuation are not based on the obvious and simplistic interpretation you are making. The most likely reason Apple fell was due to short term profit taking after the recent run up, it's quite normal. Educate yourself.
There is only a certain amount of money in the world, it is divided up amonst varies sectors, pension funds and mutual funds and money pouring in from 401k funds. It gets allocate across various indexes and asset classes with some very strict rules.
The resistance you call phony indicates a complete lack of understanding how money is allocated over time and a misunderstanding of the structural behavior of the market too.
Once you gain some basic knowledge you won't make these ignorant statements..
Human behavior (as I have said time and again) is individually rational, but appears to be irrational in aggregate, mainly because of rivalrous self-interests at play.
If you understand human behavior is based on self-interest, you will understand everything in the history of humanity.
Stock valuation are not based on the obvious and simplistic interpretation you are making. The most likely reason Apple fell was due to short term profit taking after the recent run up, it's quite normal. Educate yourself.
Over the years I have found that the guys who tell me to educate myself are usually the stupidest guys in the room.
A lot of the market is driven by fear and greed. We don't know the future and we don't know how everyone in the market thinks or behaves. We don't. We hope that when we invest we make more money than we put in. Otherwise we would not be in the market and be sitting on cash.
Trying to predict the market is like trying to predict the weather. We don't have all of the information on how the future will play out so we do our best to make a rational decision.
I think apple is not way up is that people may think Apple is close to top.
Institutions are probably the biggest influence on market. I doubt analysts are taken seriously at all by the people who run the institution investments.
I could be wrong. I acknowledge that. I know that I don't know. At the end of they day we have to decide what we do with out money and hope for the best.
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But but but jetpacks! Robot cars! Eavesdropping appliances that listen to everything you say! Every display surface festooned with ads! This is innovation! Come join us in the future!
Does anyone here know what the short term capital gains rate is, and the long term rate?
Does anyone here know what the short term capital gains rate is, and the long term rate?
Well, how much do you make? Capital gains tax rates are tiered based on your ordinary income tax rate.
Here's the Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_gains_tax_in_the_United_States
although you are highly advised to contact the IRS or a licensed tax consultant for a more authoritative answer.
Good luck.
Does anyone here know what the short term capital gains rate is, and the long term rate?
Short term is <12 months, long term >12 months. But obviously talk to an accountant.
They were up just about the same percentage as Apple was after producing 1) a substantial YOY increase in net income and 2) the largest quarter of any US company ever.
The stock market is a pretty screwy place.
Did you all see what Google stock did today after MISSING its targets?
They were up just about the same percentage as Apple was after producing 1) a substantial YOY increase in net income and 2) the largest quarter of any US company ever.
The stock market is a pretty screwy place.
Yep. Traders make individually "sensible" decisions, but the market in aggregate appears to be utter nonsense.
Haha...another troll just joined AI in Oct 2014. We'll see him often bashing Apple.
Steffen Jobbs-brought to you by Samsung. LOL.
You're reading it wrong.
You guys do understand that intra-day levels don't count for anything, right? Call me when it breaks a record at the closing bell, otherwise you're wasting my (and your) time.
To underline that fact... the company that just posted the highest quarterly profit in corporate history closed down on the day.
As I've said before, investors are weenies.
Still too low. How many records will Apple have to shatter before these bozos get it?
It it's too low, why not buy some? Not trying to be a smart@ss. I'm going to buy some after Icahn made his bullish statements.
Think the stock is undervalued then people can buy or they can go online and whine that the stock is too low. The latter seems to be popular
It works like this :
There is only a certain amount of money in the world, it is divided up amonst varies sectors, pension funds and mutual funds and money pouring in from 401k funds. It gets allocate across various indexes and asset classes with some very strict rules.
The resistance you call phony indicates a complete lack of understanding how money is allocated over time and a misunderstanding of the structural behavior of the market too.
Once you gain some basic knowledge you won't make these ignorant statements..
Stock valuation are not based on the obvious and simplistic interpretation you are making. The most likely reason Apple fell was due to short term profit taking after the recent run up, it's quite normal. Educate yourself.
You’re right; I don’t understand this:
Ah, so it’s built on a false premise! I get it now.
Human behavior (as I have said time and again) is individually rational, but appears to be irrational in aggregate, mainly because of rivalrous self-interests at play.
If you understand human behavior is based on self-interest, you will understand everything in the history of humanity.
Stock valuation are not based on the obvious and simplistic interpretation you are making. The most likely reason Apple fell was due to short term profit taking after the recent run up, it's quite normal. Educate yourself.
Over the years I have found that the guys who tell me to educate myself are usually the stupidest guys in the room.
yeah I rememebr you said youd sell your shares if it reached $110-120, because you didn't feel Cook was a good ceo. so, are you out of AAPL now?
Trying to predict the market is like trying to predict the weather. We don't have all of the information on how the future will play out so we do our best to make a rational decision.
I think apple is not way up is that people may think Apple is close to top.
Institutions are probably the biggest influence on market. I doubt analysts are taken seriously at all by the people who run the institution investments.
I could be wrong. I acknowledge that. I know that I don't know. At the end of they day we have to decide what we do with out money and hope for the best.