Shares of Apple reach new all-time high of $120 after record holiday quarter

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  • Reply 21 of 57
    sflocal wrote: »

    I agree... that being said, there is something inherently wrong when companies like Google and Amazon have high stock valuations even though they make less.  If they applied that screwed-up logic to AAPL, it would have certainly been a $1T+ company a while back.

    But but but jetpacks! Robot cars! Eavesdropping appliances that listen to everything you say! Every display surface festooned with ads! This is innovation! Come join us in the future!
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  • Reply 22 of 57

    Does anyone here know what the short term capital gains rate is, and the long term rate?

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  • Reply 23 of 57
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,506member
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    Does anyone here know what the short term capital gains rate is, and the long term rate?




    Well, how much do you make? Capital gains tax rates are tiered based on your ordinary income tax rate.

     

    Here's the Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_gains_tax_in_the_United_States

     

    although you are highly advised to contact the IRS or a licensed tax consultant for a more authoritative answer.

     

    Good luck.

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  • Reply 24 of 57
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    Does anyone here know what the short term capital gains rate is, and the long term rate?




    Short term is <12 months, long term >12 months. But obviously talk to an accountant. 

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  • Reply 25 of 57
    drwamdrwam Posts: 38member
    Did you all see what Google stock did today after MISSING its targets?
    They were up just about the same percentage as Apple was after producing 1) a substantial YOY increase in net income and 2) the largest quarter of any US company ever.
    The stock market is a pretty screwy place.
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  • Reply 26 of 57
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    Did you all see what Google stock did today after MISSING its targets?

    They were up just about the same percentage as Apple was after producing 1) a substantial YOY increase in net income and 2) the largest quarter of any US company ever.

    The stock market is a pretty screwy place.



    Yep. Traders make individually "sensible" decisions, but the market in aggregate appears to be utter nonsense.

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  • Reply 27 of 57
    chasmchasm Posts: 3,780member
    You guys do understand that intra-day levels don't count for anything, right? Call me when it breaks a record at the closing bell, otherwise you're wasting my (and your) time.
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  • Reply 28 of 57
    dougddougd Posts: 292member
    Why do you have to jinx it with a headline ?
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  • Reply 29 of 57
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    Haha...another troll just joined AI in Oct 2014. We'll see him often bashing Apple. 

     

    Steffen Jobbs-brought to you by Samsung. LOL.


     

    You're reading it wrong.

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  • Reply 30 of 57
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    You guys do understand that intra-day levels don't count for anything, right? Call me when it breaks a record at the closing bell, otherwise you're wasting my (and your) time.

     

    To underline that fact... the company that just posted the highest quarterly profit in corporate history closed down on the day.

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  • Reply 31 of 57
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,506member

    As I've said before, investors are weenies.

     

    :D

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  • Reply 32 of 57
    pfisherpfisher Posts: 758member
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    Still too low. How many records will Apple have to shatter before these bozos get it?

    It it's too low, why not buy some? Not trying to be a smart@ss. I'm going to buy some after Icahn made his bullish statements.

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  • Reply 33 of 57
    pfisher wrote: »
    <div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/184578/shares-of-apple-reach-new-all-time-high-of-120-after-record-holiday-quarter#post_2668960" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false">Quote:<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>TheWhiteFalcon</strong> <a href="/t/184578/shares-of-apple-reach-new-all-time-high-of-120-after-record-holiday-quarter#post_2668960"><img alt="View Post" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /><br />Still too low. How many records will Apple have to shatter before these bozos get it?</div></div><p>It it's too low, why not buy some? Not trying to be a smart@ss. I'm going to buy some after Icahn made his bullish statements.</p>
    you are being a smart ass but being totally sensible. :thumbup:

    Think the stock is undervalued then people can buy or they can go online and whine that the stock is too low. The latter seems to be popular
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  • Reply 34 of 57
    paul94544paul94544 Posts: 1,027member
    You don't understand the stock market


    It works like this :

    There is only a certain amount of money in the world, it is divided up amonst varies sectors, pension funds and mutual funds and money pouring in from 401k funds. It gets allocate across various indexes and asset classes with some very strict rules.

    The resistance you call phony indicates a complete lack of understanding how money is allocated over time and a misunderstanding of the structural behavior of the market too.

    Once you gain some basic knowledge you won't make these ignorant statements..
    What traders like to call "resistance" is completely phony and just part of traders trying to psyche each other out.
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  • Reply 35 of 57
    paul94544paul94544 Posts: 1,027member
    To underline that fact... the company that just posted the highest quarterly profit in corporate history closed down on the day.

    Stock valuation are not based on the obvious and simplistic interpretation you are making. The most likely reason Apple fell was due to short term profit taking after the recent run up, it's quite normal. Educate yourself.
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  • Reply 36 of 57
    Originally Posted by Paul94544 View Post

    You don't understand the stock market

     

    You’re right; I don’t understand this:

     

     

     

    It works like this : There is only a certain amount of money in the world


     

    Ah, so it’s built on a false premise! I get it now.

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  • Reply 37 of 57
    paul94544 wrote: »
    You don't understand the stock market


    It works like this :

    There is only a certain amount of money in the world, it is divided up amonst varies sectors, pension funds and mutual funds and money pouring in from 401k funds. It gets allocate across various indexes and asset classes with some very strict rules.

    The resistance you call phony indicates a complete lack of understanding how money is allocated over time and a misunderstanding of the structural behavior of the market too.

    Once you gain some basic knowledge you won't make these ignorant statements..

    Human behavior (as I have said time and again) is individually rational, but appears to be irrational in aggregate, mainly because of rivalrous self-interests at play.

    If you understand human behavior is based on self-interest, you will understand everything in the history of humanity.
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  • Reply 38 of 57
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    Stock valuation are not based on the obvious and simplistic interpretation you are making. The most likely reason Apple fell was due to short term profit taking after the recent run up, it's quite normal. Educate yourself.

     

    Over the years I have found that the guys who tell me to educate myself are usually the stupidest guys in the room.

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  • Reply 39 of 57
    sog35 wrote: »
    We see $140 this year IMO.

    Holding 800 shares common.
    Sold $150 strike covered calls expiring in Jan 2016.

    Keep this in mind:

    Google showed 15% revenue growth this Quarter
    Amazon showed 15% revenue growth this Quarter
    Apple showed 30% revenue growth this Quarter

    Yet Google shares cost 80% more on PE basis.  Amazon is 1000%+ more expensive.

    Keep in mind Apple made more operating profit in Dec quarter than Google made the ENTIRE YEAR.

    If Apple continues to grow revenue 15-20% the next 2 quarters this will easily see $140 this year.
    If Apple grow revenue 25% we see $150 this year.

    yeah I rememebr you said youd sell your shares if it reached $110-120, because you didn't feel Cook was a good ceo. so, are you out of AAPL now?
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  • Reply 40 of 57
    pfisherpfisher Posts: 758member
    A lot of the market is driven by fear and greed. We don't know the future and we don't know how everyone in the market thinks or behaves. We don't. We hope that when we invest we make more money than we put in. Otherwise we would not be in the market and be sitting on cash.

    Trying to predict the market is like trying to predict the weather. We don't have all of the information on how the future will play out so we do our best to make a rational decision.

    I think apple is not way up is that people may think Apple is close to top.

    Institutions are probably the biggest influence on market. I doubt analysts are taken seriously at all by the people who run the institution investments.

    I could be wrong. I acknowledge that. I know that I don't know. At the end of they day we have to decide what we do with out money and hope for the best.
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