Apple's mysterious vans are almost certainly for 3D mapping, not autonomous driving

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  • Reply 61 of 65
    bengbeng Posts: 26member
    These cars are clearly for autonomous driving. They have equipment on them that have nothing to do with streel level mapping.

    1. The wheel encoder
    2. The lidar modules
    3. to GPS antennas
    4. Few cameras


    To do mapping you need more cameras, since you are looking sideways as well. For driving, you only need to look in a certain arc forward and back. The Lidar is a dead giveaway. The only use for it is to keep a safe distance between vehicles. Lidar has no use for mapping. And what good is a wheel encoder for mapping?

    Maybe the two GPS units would also funciton for mapping, but two is overkill. You can even do without one.

    So, unless, these cars have a lot of fake equipment on them, they are not well suited for mapping and are well suited for autonomous driving.

    However, there is another angle to all this. Apple may be optimiing its Car Play system to integrate with a car%u2019s internal crash avoidance system. You know, the one%u2019s on BMWs that brake when you get too close%u2026. Apple wants to take over your dashboard, so blind spot imaging and collision avoidance are what I see here. The cameras and other things are good for verifying what the lidar is seeing.
  • Reply 62 of 65
    beng wrote: »
    These cars are clearly for autonomous driving. They have equipment on them that have nothing to do with streel level mapping.

    1. The wheel encoder
    2. The lidar modules
    3. to GPS antennas
    4. Few cameras


    To do mapping you need more cameras, since you are looking sideways as well. For driving, you only need to look in a certain arc forward and back. The Lidar is a dead giveaway. The only use for it is to keep a safe distance between vehicles. Lidar has no use for mapping. And what good is a wheel encoder for mapping?

    Maybe the two GPS units would also funciton for mapping, but two is overkill. You can even do without one.

    So, unless, these cars have a lot of fake equipment on them, they are not well suited for mapping and are well suited for autonomous driving.

    However, there is another angle to all this. Apple may be optimiing its Car Play system to integrate with a car%u2019s internal crash avoidance system. You know, the one%u2019s on BMWs that brake when you get too close%u2026. Apple wants to take over your dashboard, so blind spot imaging and collision avoidance are what I see here. The cameras and other things are good for verifying what the lidar is seeing.

    1) So you think Apple is investing in making self-driving cars?

    2) You don't think 12 cameras is enough?

    3) Why wouldn't a wheel encoder and GPS be used for mapping?
  • Reply 63 of 65
    bengbeng Posts: 26member
    These cars are clearly for autonomous driving. They have equipment on them that have nothing to do with streel level mapping.

    1. The wheel encoder
    2. The lidar modules
    3. to GPS antennas
    4. Few cameras


    To do mapping you need more cameras, since you are looking sideways as well. For driving, you only need to look in a certain arc forward and back. The Lidar is a dead giveaway. The only use for it is to keep a safe distance between vehicles. Lidar has no use for mapping. And what good is a wheel encoder for mapping?

    Maybe the two GPS units would also funciton for mapping, but two is overkill. You can even do without one.

    So, unless, these cars have a lot of fake equipment on them, they are not well suited for mapping and are well suited for autonomous driving.

    However, there is another angle to all this. Apple may be optimiing its Car Play system to integrate with a car%u2019s internal crash avoidance system. You know, the ones on BMWs that brake when you get too close. Apple wants to take over your dashboard, so blind spot imaging and collision avoidance are what I see here. The cameras and other things are good for verifying what the lidar is seeing.
  • Reply 64 of 65
    bengbeng Posts: 26member



    No.  I think Apple is getting their Car Play system ready to be the central command for other manufacturer’s collision avoidance and other safety gear.

     

    I don’t think Apple cares one whit about making their own car.  They want to own the dashboard.

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