VESA's new DisplayPort standard will enable ultra-res 8K displays, improve battery life

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  • Reply 21 of 43
    mstone wrote: »
    24 bit RGB colors 16,777,216
      
    4K 3840 x 2160 pixels 8,294,400

    5K 5120 x 2880 pixels <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);white-space:nowrap;">14,745,600</span>


    8K 7680 x 4320 pixels 33,177,600 

    Since 4K and 5K have fewer pixels than there are 24 bit color values, every pixel on the screen could potentially be a different RGB value, however once you get to 8K then interpolation will occur by a factor of 2.

    And when you baseline your bit depth to 10-bit RGBA all of this is moot.
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  • Reply 22 of 43
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    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post





    Oh come on, you know fine well 64K will be here by then! image

     

     

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    ...and self-driving cars. :)


     

    And analysts besides Ming-Chi.

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  • Reply 23 of 43
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    And when you baseline your bit depth to 10-bit RGBA all of this is moot.


    Ultimately it has to output to the screen and I'm unaware of any 10 bit RGBA monitors, however, that is going beyond my expertise. In my field we capture x-rays as 14 bit grayscale but to view it we use RGB 24 bit monitors. 

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  • Reply 24 of 43
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,179member
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    Oh come on, you know fine well 64K will be here by then! image



    Holy crap... is it possible he was just WAY ahead of his time??!!!  Could it have been a prophecy??!!  Imma gonna wait a wee bit longer now!! :wow:



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  • Reply 25 of 43

    So - is it expected to that this new DisplayPort standard will apply to projectors as well?

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  • Reply 26 of 43
    The first Macintosh had a 512x384 1-bit color, 60p display. It took 30 years to reach 5K.

    I predict by the year 2045, the Mac will have a 50K 128-bit color display.
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  • Reply 27 of 43
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    Originally Posted by mstone View Post

     

    Ultimately it has to output to the screen and I'm unaware of any 10 bit RGBA monitors, however, that is going beyond my expertise. 


     

    There's a number of 30 bpp monitors... Most of the Dell UltraSharps at this point are. Some do this by being 8 bit+FRC and some are true 10 bit. HP is the same way.

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  • Reply 28 of 43
    I'm waiting for post-pixel displays.
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  • Reply 29 of 43
    brlawyer wrote: »

    Just more vaporware announcements from VESA - after all, everything and their proverbial dog depend on the fabled "Skylake" crap from Intel.

    So why bother at this point if all people will say is: "uh, no Mac Pros, no xMacs and no iMacs with such cutting edge support until 2017"?

    VESA is a standards body. They don't "ship" anything except specifications for future standards, which they just did.
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  • Reply 30 of 43
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    There's a number of 30 bpp monitors... Most of the Dell UltraSharps at this point are. Some do this by being 8 bit+FRC and some are true 10 bit. HP is the same way.


    Thanks for the info. I did some searching and discovered that our Eizo monitors are 10 bit.

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  • Reply 31 of 43
    VESA is a standards body. They don't "ship" anything except specifications for future standards, which they just did.

    Calling a standards body announcement vaporware has got to the dumbest thing I've read on this site.
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  • Reply 32 of 43
    haggar wrote: »
    Is there an advantage to being able to view digital camera photos at full resolution?

    I'd think anyone that manipulates images and video could benefit from better displays.
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  • Reply 33 of 43
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    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post





    VESA is a standards body. They don't "ship" anything except specifications for future standards, which they just did.



    You didn't get it, so I am gonna say it in a clearer manner for ya: standards mean nothing if they are not used - and if everyone needs to wait for Intel to release anything, it also means those are not standards at all, particularly if their use is de facto controlled by one maker.

     

    Got it?

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  • Reply 34 of 43
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    Calling a standards body announcement vaporware has got to the dumbest thing I've read on this site.



    If you don't understand the point, why comment at all?

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  • Reply 35 of 43
    brlawyer wrote: »

    If you don't understand the point, why comment at all?

    Oh, I understand your point, hence my comment to [@]Suddenly Newton[/@]. It's you that doesn't understand, as exampled by your comment about Intel.
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  • Reply 36 of 43
    jfanningjfanning Posts: 3,398member
    mstone wrote: »
    24 bit RGB colors 16,777,216
      

    I would have thought a 4K or 8K display would be 10bpp not 8bpp?
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  • Reply 37 of 43
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    I would have thought a 4K or 8K display would be 10bpp not 8bpp?

    Perhaps, but they are still using RGB pixels and to achieve the additional bits they use various techniques such as dithering or flashing on and off from one color to another to create a perceived larger gamut making it appear there are more colors, but the technology also creates some unwanted side effects. In software no doubt about the extra bits, just like shooting in RAW with 16 bits per channel. But it has to ultimately be converted to 24 bit for display perhaps with some trickery in the look up tables. I'm definitely not an expert in this area, although I have done a bit of research about it today.

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  • Reply 38 of 43
    jfanning wrote: »
    I would have thought a 4K or 8K display would be 10bpp not 8bpp?

    It most certainly would be 10bpp, if not 12 or 16bpp. It's the reason HP has moved to 10bpp for its high end. By the time Apple gets OS X internally ready for that is only then will we see 10bpp or higher.

    http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/workstations/ultrazdisplays.html
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  • Reply 39 of 43
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    VESA is a standards body. They don't "ship" anything except specifications for future standards, which they just did.

     

    You have no idea how the standards process works. Standards boards are 100% made up by companies with some stake in the end result. Therefore, it is to the benefit of each member to push technology they have in hand, that is easy for them to implement, so that they can make the next product before their competitors. The companies who make up these boards also pay attention to what their competitors are proposing and they start work on the products ahead of time. I can guarantee you that there are test eDP chipsets floating around by now.

     

    You must be too young to remember all the 802.11 draft-n hardware that was sold for something like two years. And how Wi-Fi Alliance decided to start certifying draft-n. And not only that, I even have some draft 10Base-T hardware in a box.

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  • Reply 40 of 43
    iqatedoiqatedo Posts: 1,846member
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    Originally Posted by sflocal View Post





    Self-driving FLYING cars... image



    Funny you should say that... Elon Musk let slip in an interview that he knows of someone working on just that. The remark was genuine. :) 

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