"Remember folks: We don't need to compare Android Wear watch sales to Apple Watch sales. Neither work with their competing platform. We all know Apple will sell a metric **** ton (it's a legitimate unit of measurement) because they're a great marketing and advertising company. Besides, if we really must compare numbers for the sake of having a penis contest, we can compare the global market share of the two platforms.?" - Derek Ross
100% agree. Which might explain why I'm losing my interest in technology. I like my humanity. You might want to replace your eyeballs with implants or have some implanted device monitor your body chemistry and release drugs and supplements into your bloodstream in order to optimize the machine. You might want to BECOME a machine. But I don't. Kurzweil is right. Our future culture won't be biological, but it will be human.
Interesting, you imply that those of us with pacemakers, implanted insulin pumps, artificial joints/limbs or even breast enlargements may have lost some, maybe even all, of their humanity.
I also don't think Nintendo is a good measure of success these days. They've fallen woefully behind in hardware. Their real asset is their creative and their established franchises.
And make billions doing it. They cater to people who couldn’t care less about hardware and just want good products. They’re the only ones who make ANY money, aren’t they?
I also don't think Nintendo is a good measure of success these days. They've fallen woefully behind in hardware. Their real asset is their creative and their established franchises.
And make billions doing it. They cater to people who couldn’t care less about hardware and just want good products. They’re the only ones who make ANY money, aren’t they?
Just like Apple.
Why is there still no App Store for Apple TV?
Because, again, apps don’t make any sense there.
If Apple opened an App store we could get an Amazon Instant Video app on the AppleTV. That would make all kinds of sense. So would every other content owner that wanted on the platform, but has not been invited.
What I'm wondering is, if the Edition Watch is $5,000 how many people are willing to upgrade every year? Would it piss someone off if they spent $5,000 on a watch less than 6 months before the new model is released?
Maybe the Edition version will be marketed to millionaires only.
What I'm wondering is, if the Edition Watch is $5,000 how many people are willing to upgrade every year? Would it piss someone off if they spent $5,000 on a watch less than 6 months before the new model is released?
Maybe the Edition version will be marketed to millionaires only.
What's wrong with the S-series chip being updated a year later or a new watch design arriving a year later? Don't expensive watch makers typically have annual releases of their new designs?
Imagine what a game changer it would be if anyone could create an app (channel) for Apple TV and sell content through in-app purchases? Apple doesn't need to reinvent TV. They just need to open up Apple TV and let the market do the rest.
While I don't necessarily agree with other things that you have written, I thing that is a brilliant idea. I can imagine a whole world of indie-studios releasing entertainment that way. It would revolutionise drama and the creative arts. As an amateur film maker I'm crying out for this sort of thing.
People are just not that into wearables especially in the form of a watch with its tiny screen.
That is exactly it. The SmartWatch category is not very big. Not many people wear a watch, and if they do, it is to tell time only. They already have a smartphone for everything else. They are not likely to drop $350+ for a duplicate device. People don't want to carry around duplicate devices. Even Apple makes duds from time to time: iPod Hi-Fi, Power Mac G4 Cube, Flower Power iMac, Dalmatian iMac, the PowerBook G3 (without L2 cache), the iPod shuffle without buttons, Macs with useless DVD-RAM drives (quickly replaced with CD-RW drives), etc. There is a reason why the Apple Watch has been placed in the "other" category on their expense sheet, along with iPods and AppleTVs.
The "writing is on the wall" for an Apple product, because some poorly designed non-Apple products sold like shit?
So I guess the "writing was on the wall" for the iPod? (mp3 players were never huge sellers before then)
So I guess the "writing was on the wall" for the iPhone? (touchscreen phones were a joke before then)
So I guess the "writing was on the wall" for the iPad? (tablets sold like this before then)
So I guess the "writing was on the wall" for the Macbook Air? (Ultrabooks sold like shit)
So I guess the "writing was on the wall" for Touch ID? (biometric on phones were unreliable and gimmicks)
So I guess the "writing was on the wall" for Apple Pay? (Phone based NFC payments had shit adoption)
I can go on and on.
It's amazing how people like you never get banned, if only for your consistently, grotesquely twisted and incomprehensible logic. Let me guess, if Android smartwatches had amazing sales, you would be saying that Apple "is too late to the party" and has "missed it's chance", or some other predictable horse-shit. Every single one of the above categories was "doomed to fail" by people like you. Sad that you feel zero shame for having learned nothing from Apple in the last 20 years, and that you are proud to publicize such extreme ignorance and petty thinking, on a daily basis.
The Apple Watch will probably outsell the combined, lifetime sales of every single other Android Smartwatch that has ever existed in the first day or two. Of course, instead of manning up and eating your words, you will move on to your next attack, as you have always done. I would gladly make a lifetime-ban bet with you on this, but I know you would never have the balls to accept it. All trolling, no real conviction. Incredibly, you've been wrong about everything you have ever posted about, and that will never change. That's quite the record.
People are entitled to their OPINION, whether you like it or not. They don't get banned. Read anything other than an Apple-Fanboy site and you will read unbiased facts about the Apple Watch. It will be expensive, it duplicates the functions of the iPhone, it requires an iPhone, it will only work with an iPhone, do people need a duplicate tech device, will Apple be able to convince someone to spend $350 for a device that does nothing more than an iPhone? Will people buy a device that requires recharging daily, or may run out of battery life with heavy use in a few hours? If you believe people should be banned for their opinion, then move to a third-world country with a dictator.
It is sad you actually believe your own comments. You have no data to back up anything you said. MP3 players sold relatively well since the market was new at the time. During the iPod presentation, they even discussed the wide variety of players at the time. I had a Creative Jukebox and it was a great device at the time. There were no touchscreen phones before the iPhone. The iPhone was never doomed. The competition quickly based their products on it. Tablets were attempted years before the iPad, at the wrong time and wrong market sector. There were no Ultrabooks when the MacBook Air was released, and the MacBook Air was never doomed. You are confusing that with Netbooks, which are completely different. There were no cellphones with biometric sensors before the iPhone. ApplePay still has crap adoption and a lousy rollout. It works at McDonald's, but no one else advertises it and no one knows who has it. So you are also wrong with your comment and all your allegations.
Even Apple makes duds from time to time […] There is a reason why the Apple Watch has been placed in the "other" category on their expense sheet, along with iPods and AppleTVs.
If it's such a dud they they spent years making it, have given it a lot of spotlight, and are changing up their stores to sell it? Which of those other duds got such a grand treatment? Why not cut their loses if it's such a worthless gimmick that does nothing but duplicate all the features of an iPhone?
During the iPod presentation, they even discussed the wide variety of players at the time.
Yes, because Apple wasn't first to market and the market had been around for years before Apple jumped in, hence his comment.
There were no touchscreen phones before the iPhone.
Yes, there were, and they all sucked before the iPhone.
The iPhone was never doomed.
You wouldn't know it by reading comments by asshats.
Tablets were attempted years before the iPad, at the wrong time and wrong market sector.
Again, his point, that Apple did it right. Timing wasn't an accident, it was when the HW and SW was ready… that was the time, which is why all those tablets at CES earlier that year failed.
MacBook Air was never doomed.
Yet again, you wouldn't know it by all the complaints about an $1800 starting point for something that is slower than a MacBook with no ports of very little storage.
You are confusing that with Netbooks, which are completely different.
He explained himself on that one.
There were no cellphones with biometric sensors before the iPhone.
WTF?! Of course there were! Biometric sensors on CE have been around for over a decade, and for many years on smartphones, but (again) they all sucked ass.
ApplePay still has crap adoption and a lousy rollout.
What's so lousy about having over 80% of the US banks on board in a couple months of a brand new service on a brand new phone being launched? I'd say the rollout is much faster than even Apple anticipated.
It works at McDonald's, but no one else advertises it and no one knows who has it.
I have seen a shitload of billboards and ads for ?Pay, as well as getting emails about support for the service. That's damn impressive for right out of the gate. It's a brilliant service that will change the way we securely make purchases going forward.
So you are also wrong with your comment and all your allegations.
I tried Android Wear, am pretty sure I'm not the target audience, because when the battery died after just 4 hours of use, I wanted to flush it down a toilet.
Have been using a Pebble for a couple of months, and I predict some pretty decent sales numbers for the Apple Watch, once you have notifications on your wrist, you don't want to go back, ever. Add in Apple consumer loyalty, and you have a winner.
I also don't think Nintendo is a good measure of success these days. They've fallen woefully behind in hardware. Their real asset is their creative and their established franchises.
To be clear Nintendo is NOT behind in hardware. They are also the only company innovating in the gaming industry.
Sony/MS' controllers, consoles and games are all copycats of Nintendo's work.
Heck even Steve Jobs wanted to copy the Wii remote idea for AppleTV.
But like Apple, tech blogs and journalists love to sh** on Nintendo and people eat that up.
Nintendo's marketing is GARBAGE. If Apple bought them we would see a clash of amazing game leaders and engineers and good marketing.
I tried Android Wear, am pretty sure I'm not the target audience, because when the battery died after just 4 hours of use, I wanted to flush it down a toilet.
Have been using a Pebble for a couple of months, and I predict some pretty decent sales numbers for the Apple Watch, once you have notifications on your wrist, you don't want to go back, ever. Add in Apple consumer loyalty, and you have a winner.
So... what would you think if the Apple Watch died after 6 hours?
So Mark Gurman says Apple plans stand alone stores in the future that would only sell ?Watches. He says they could be smaller stores or store with in a store concepts at other retailers or jewelry stores.
People can dismiss the watch all they want but it's clear Apple isn't fooling around here and this product isn't a hobby. I think the retail play is an advantage Apple has that Android OEMs can't replicate. Because a watch is something you'd want to try on before you buy it makes sense for Apple to get it in as many places as possible, places where it might not be feasible to open a complete Apple store. And doing store in a store concepts allow ?Watch to be displayed on its own and not in a row with every other Android Wear watch and fitness band. There's no way companies like LG, HTC, Sony, Asus etc. will be able to get this product in as many places as Apple can. They don't have their own retail footprint and don't have the clout Apple does so they're all stuck sharing limited space with each other. Big win for Apple.
[quote name="Rogifan" url="/t/184761/android-wear-stumbles-out-of-the-gate-with-just-720k-units-shipped-in-2014/80#post_2674783"]So Mark Gurman says Apple plans stand alone stores in the future that would only sell ?Watches. He says they could be smaller stores or store with in a store concepts at other retailers or jewelry stores.[/QUOTE]
That's how I envisioned this working when it was still a rumour. Unlike the horrible experience with Apple Stores inside a Best Buy, I can picture how jewelry stores would want to carry the two upper tiers to gain more foot traffic. Same goes for department stores that could carry all three or a variety. Smaller clothing stores that could the two lower tiers. Sporting good stores ?„watch Sport.
I can also see jewelry stores potentially being Apple Certified for installing a new S-series SiP (which is a solution I'm hoping Apple announces, but I don't have high hopes for).
This is really a lot of new ground for Apple. They've had to go far outside their safety zone to build and market this product properly, and so far I think they are doing a great job (even though I have no intention of buying one at this time).
So Mark Gurman says Apple plans stand alone stores in the future that would only sell ?Watches. He says they could be smaller stores or store with in a store concepts at other retailers or jewelry stores.
People can dismiss the watch all they want but it's clear Apple isn't fooling around here and this product isn't a hobby. I think the retail play is an advantage Apple has that Android OEMs can't replicate. Because a watch is something you'd want to try on before you buy it makes sense for Apple to get it in as many places as possible, places where it might not be feasible to open a complete Apple store. And doing store in a store concepts allow ?Watch to be displayed on its own and not in a row with every other Android Wear watch and fitness band. There's no way companies like LG, HTC, Sony, Asus etc. will be able to get this product in as many places as Apple can. They don't have their own retail footprint and don't have the clout Apple does so they're all stuck sharing limited space with each other. Big win for Apple.
It better look and feel better in person than it photographs- that's all I got to say. Of course they have to get a store like Swatch already has- don't you think people want to try it on first before they fork over all that cash? you really can't do that in Apple stores as they are now.
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?Watch is an ?Pay device, something that sets it apart from other wearables.
The ?Watch will even allow iPhone 5, 5c and 5S owners the ability to make in store purchases.
Single tap purchases with your wrist, even more convenient than reaching for the iPhone in your pocket.
I'm surprised more isn't said about this ?Watch capability.
"Remember folks: We don't need to compare Android Wear watch sales to Apple Watch sales. Neither work with their competing platform. We all know Apple will sell a metric **** ton (it's a legitimate unit of measurement) because they're a great marketing and advertising company. Besides, if we really must compare numbers for the sake of having a penis contest, we can compare the global market share of the two platforms.?" - Derek Ross
100% agree. Which might explain why I'm losing my interest in technology. I like my humanity. You might want to replace your eyeballs with implants or have some implanted device monitor your body chemistry and release drugs and supplements into your bloodstream in order to optimize the machine. You might want to BECOME a machine. But I don't. Kurzweil is right. Our future culture won't be biological, but it will be human.
Interesting, you imply that those of us with pacemakers, implanted insulin pumps, artificial joints/limbs or even breast enlargements may have lost some, maybe even all, of their humanity.
And make billions doing it. They cater to people who couldn’t care less about hardware and just want good products. They’re the only ones who make ANY money, aren’t they?
Just like Apple.
Because, again, apps don’t make any sense there.
If Apple opened an App store we could get an Amazon Instant Video app on the AppleTV. That would make all kinds of sense. So would every other content owner that wanted on the platform, but has not been invited.
"Canalys estimates that just 720,000 Android Wear devices were shipped last year,"
Wonder how many Android Wear devices weren't sold due to Apple announcing their watch in September?
Maybe the Edition version will be marketed to millionaires only.
What's wrong with the S-series chip being updated a year later or a new watch design arriving a year later? Don't expensive watch makers typically have annual releases of their new designs?
While I don't necessarily agree with other things that you have written, I thing that is a brilliant idea. I can imagine a whole world of indie-studios releasing entertainment that way. It would revolutionise drama and the creative arts. As an amateur film maker I'm crying out for this sort of thing.
People are just not that into wearables especially in the form of a watch with its tiny screen.
That is exactly it. The SmartWatch category is not very big. Not many people wear a watch, and if they do, it is to tell time only. They already have a smartphone for everything else. They are not likely to drop $350+ for a duplicate device. People don't want to carry around duplicate devices. Even Apple makes duds from time to time: iPod Hi-Fi, Power Mac G4 Cube, Flower Power iMac, Dalmatian iMac, the PowerBook G3 (without L2 cache), the iPod shuffle without buttons, Macs with useless DVD-RAM drives (quickly replaced with CD-RW drives), etc. There is a reason why the Apple Watch has been placed in the "other" category on their expense sheet, along with iPods and AppleTVs.
The "writing is on the wall" for an Apple product, because some poorly designed non-Apple products sold like shit?
So I guess the "writing was on the wall" for the iPod? (mp3 players were never huge sellers before then)
So I guess the "writing was on the wall" for the iPhone? (touchscreen phones were a joke before then)
So I guess the "writing was on the wall" for the iPad? (tablets sold like this before then)
So I guess the "writing was on the wall" for the Macbook Air? (Ultrabooks sold like shit)
So I guess the "writing was on the wall" for Touch ID? (biometric on phones were unreliable and gimmicks)
So I guess the "writing was on the wall" for Apple Pay? (Phone based NFC payments had shit adoption)
I can go on and on.
It's amazing how people like you never get banned, if only for your consistently, grotesquely twisted and incomprehensible logic. Let me guess, if Android smartwatches had amazing sales, you would be saying that Apple "is too late to the party" and has "missed it's chance", or some other predictable horse-shit. Every single one of the above categories was "doomed to fail" by people like you. Sad that you feel zero shame for having learned nothing from Apple in the last 20 years, and that you are proud to publicize such extreme ignorance and petty thinking, on a daily basis.
The Apple Watch will probably outsell the combined, lifetime sales of every single other Android Smartwatch that has ever existed in the first day or two. Of course, instead of manning up and eating your words, you will move on to your next attack, as you have always done. I would gladly make a lifetime-ban bet with you on this, but I know you would never have the balls to accept it. All trolling, no real conviction. Incredibly, you've been wrong about everything you have ever posted about, and that will never change. That's quite the record.
People are entitled to their OPINION, whether you like it or not. They don't get banned. Read anything other than an Apple-Fanboy site and you will read unbiased facts about the Apple Watch. It will be expensive, it duplicates the functions of the iPhone, it requires an iPhone, it will only work with an iPhone, do people need a duplicate tech device, will Apple be able to convince someone to spend $350 for a device that does nothing more than an iPhone? Will people buy a device that requires recharging daily, or may run out of battery life with heavy use in a few hours? If you believe people should be banned for their opinion, then move to a third-world country with a dictator.
It is sad you actually believe your own comments. You have no data to back up anything you said. MP3 players sold relatively well since the market was new at the time. During the iPod presentation, they even discussed the wide variety of players at the time. I had a Creative Jukebox and it was a great device at the time. There were no touchscreen phones before the iPhone. The iPhone was never doomed. The competition quickly based their products on it. Tablets were attempted years before the iPad, at the wrong time and wrong market sector. There were no Ultrabooks when the MacBook Air was released, and the MacBook Air was never doomed. You are confusing that with Netbooks, which are completely different. There were no cellphones with biometric sensors before the iPhone. ApplePay still has crap adoption and a lousy rollout. It works at McDonald's, but no one else advertises it and no one knows who has it. So you are also wrong with your comment and all your allegations.
If it's such a dud they they spent years making it, have given it a lot of spotlight, and are changing up their stores to sell it? Which of those other duds got such a grand treatment? Why not cut their loses if it's such a worthless gimmick that does nothing but duplicate all the features of an iPhone?
Yes, because Apple wasn't first to market and the market had been around for years before Apple jumped in, hence his comment.
Yes, there were, and they all sucked before the iPhone.
You wouldn't know it by reading comments by asshats.
Again, his point, that Apple did it right. Timing wasn't an accident, it was when the HW and SW was ready… that was the time, which is why all those tablets at CES earlier that year failed.
Yet again, you wouldn't know it by all the complaints about an $1800 starting point for something that is slower than a MacBook with no ports of very little storage.
He explained himself on that one.
WTF?! Of course there were! Biometric sensors on CE have been around for over a decade, and for many years on smartphones, but (again) they all sucked ass.
What's so lousy about having over 80% of the US banks on board in a couple months of a brand new service on a brand new phone being launched? I'd say the rollout is much faster than even Apple anticipated.
I have seen a shitload of billboards and ads for ?Pay, as well as getting emails about support for the service. That's damn impressive for right out of the gate. It's a brilliant service that will change the way we securely make purchases going forward.
:no:
Yet they made the small computer bigger.
I tried Android Wear, am pretty sure I'm not the target audience, because when the battery died after just 4 hours of use, I wanted to flush it down a toilet.
Have been using a Pebble for a couple of months, and I predict some pretty decent sales numbers for the Apple Watch, once you have notifications on your wrist, you don't want to go back, ever. Add in Apple consumer loyalty, and you have a winner.
To be clear Nintendo is NOT behind in hardware. They are also the only company innovating in the gaming industry.
Sony/MS' controllers, consoles and games are all copycats of Nintendo's work.
Heck even Steve Jobs wanted to copy the Wii remote idea for AppleTV.
But like Apple, tech blogs and journalists love to sh** on Nintendo and people eat that up.
Nintendo's marketing is GARBAGE. If Apple bought them we would see a clash of amazing game leaders and engineers and good marketing.
I tried Android Wear, am pretty sure I'm not the target audience, because when the battery died after just 4 hours of use, I wanted to flush it down a toilet.
Have been using a Pebble for a couple of months, and I predict some pretty decent sales numbers for the Apple Watch, once you have notifications on your wrist, you don't want to go back, ever. Add in Apple consumer loyalty, and you have a winner.
So... what would you think if the Apple Watch died after 6 hours?
People can dismiss the watch all they want but it's clear Apple isn't fooling around here and this product isn't a hobby. I think the retail play is an advantage Apple has that Android OEMs can't replicate. Because a watch is something you'd want to try on before you buy it makes sense for Apple to get it in as many places as possible, places where it might not be feasible to open a complete Apple store. And doing store in a store concepts allow ?Watch to be displayed on its own and not in a row with every other Android Wear watch and fitness band. There's no way companies like LG, HTC, Sony, Asus etc. will be able to get this product in as many places as Apple can. They don't have their own retail footprint and don't have the clout Apple does so they're all stuck sharing limited space with each other. Big win for Apple.
That's how I envisioned this working when it was still a rumour. Unlike the horrible experience with Apple Stores inside a Best Buy, I can picture how jewelry stores would want to carry the two upper tiers to gain more foot traffic. Same goes for department stores that could carry all three or a variety. Smaller clothing stores that could the two lower tiers. Sporting good stores ?„watch Sport.
I can also see jewelry stores potentially being Apple Certified for installing a new S-series SiP (which is a solution I'm hoping Apple announces, but I don't have high hopes for).
This is really a lot of new ground for Apple. They've had to go far outside their safety zone to build and market this product properly, and so far I think they are doing a great job (even though I have no intention of buying one at this time).
So Mark Gurman says Apple plans stand alone stores in the future that would only sell ?Watches. He says they could be smaller stores or store with in a store concepts at other retailers or jewelry stores.
People can dismiss the watch all they want but it's clear Apple isn't fooling around here and this product isn't a hobby. I think the retail play is an advantage Apple has that Android OEMs can't replicate. Because a watch is something you'd want to try on before you buy it makes sense for Apple to get it in as many places as possible, places where it might not be feasible to open a complete Apple store. And doing store in a store concepts allow ?Watch to be displayed on its own and not in a row with every other Android Wear watch and fitness band. There's no way companies like LG, HTC, Sony, Asus etc. will be able to get this product in as many places as Apple can. They don't have their own retail footprint and don't have the clout Apple does so they're all stuck sharing limited space with each other. Big win for Apple.
It better look and feel better in person than it photographs- that's all I got to say. Of course they have to get a store like Swatch already has- don't you think people want to try it on first before they fork over all that cash? you really can't do that in Apple stores as they are now.