I know I'm an outlier, but I've been collecting music since the 80s and have well over 25k tracks. As an outlier, I'd be happy to pay more, but sure wish Apple offered an upgraded tier.
I'll be tempted to try google play with this. Not Amazon, though. They're evil.
Amazon are not evil, that's Google! I might not use any Amazon digital product offerings but I live from day to day waiting for the Amazon boxes brought by Fedex.
I agree Apple need to up the numbers, as I said earlier, even if they cap data that is uploaded or charge more at least. The content that is 'matched' and doesn't upload could be increased one would have thought with little impact on Apple's bottom line (which I do care about).
It does seem an odd limit.
One wonders whether there is some technical reason for the 25,000 song limit. Maybe the way iTunes Match is coded means that they can't increase it without fundamental changes to iTunes.
One wonders whether there is some technical reason for the 25,000 song limit. Maybe the way iTunes Match is coded means that they can't increase it without fundamental changes to iTunes.
I wonder if it licensing agreements that were put in place that need renegotiating. Steve had a tough time when he set all this up. Remember the music industry was very against the concept since so much Napster type music was out there that Steve's new plan gave instant legitimacy to. People forget they have Apple to thank for any of these services.
<span style="line-height:1.4em;">Of course Google is going to give everyone free everything on the internet. Thats their business model. The more space and stuff they give you, the more you're giving them. It's in </span>
their best interest to provide as much as possible for "free".
I agree that Apple needs to step up their somewhat pitiful offerings, especially since they've been pushing iCloud integration so hard these passed couple of years. Apple is still at the beginning of building out their data centers, but they are moving at a rapid pace and we will probably see them start offering more for less (or free). This happened with their software and it'll move to iCloud as well. I think we'll see an announcement when Apple finally releases Photos for OS X with its heavy use of iCloud integration.
You obviously forgot that Google charges a monthly fee for its music service.
ITunes and Google Play music count double CDs as a single album. A least 70 % of my CDs are classical music, so my collection statistics will be quite different. Madame Butterfly from Puccini has 46 tracks, but counts as a single album.
Man, you must really love opera because they're the ONLY disks of any kind to get high track numbers in a regular way. Regular classical music has quite low track numbers per disk (3-5). In general I don't really like recorded classical or opera, it is simply very very far from what you get in person and I prefer going to performances.
You're case is quite exceptional; people with a 1000+ disks of Opera are not legion ;-). So, the people that are effectively affected by the 25K limit is low. For example, I've bought the equivalent of one CD a week for the last 30 years (many twice ;-) and I don't get near 25K tracks (about 18K). But, if Apple doesn't meet your needs. Of course, switch.
Based on your posting history i am shocked at the lack of irrelevant links in your reply. Please provide evidence that Apple monetize me directly from my iTunes Match account. I can understand they need to track use of songs anonymously so as to pay royalties perhaps but that hardly would fit with your characterization of a Google like use of my information for self profit.
Simply visit Apple's iAd page and sign up to place an ad. You don't have to follow thru. You'll find they rely heavily on what they know about "you" (like Google and others the presumably anonymized "you") via your iTunes usage and user information. http://advertising.apple.com/benefits/
...and yes you can opt-out of ad targeting with Apple just as you can with Google. Just need to know it's being done and where to look to opt out. Most folks would have no idea about it, nor probably particularly care in all reality.
It's time to realize that ad-targeting and data-mining go hand-in-hand and it happens on every big platform, Apple is no exception. As long as it's just for ads most folks won't consider it a big deal. There are companies other than Google and Apple that use it for other purposes. Acxiom would be one example. THOSE are the ones you should be worried about.
Look, just become the 51st State and be done with all these delays on Apple products and services.
You guys would love that wouldn't you. A sanctuary to flee to, away from all the ills and troubles of America. " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
I’ll let you in on a little secret, if you don't know it already.
iTunes is linked with Safari, so if you clear out your history and webdata in Safari, you will have to log into your account in iTunes again, even if you are logged in already. I believe this dates back years, and some tech guru here could probably explain it, but it seems archaic and suboptimal. iTunes probably needs a complete re-write from the ground up.
I'm not buying this explanation. Most of my iTunes use is on a Windows 7 PC and I have never installed Safari on it. I don't believe I even have the option to do that now.
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It does seem an odd limit.
One wonders whether there is some technical reason for the 25,000 song limit. Maybe the way iTunes Match is coded means that they can't increase it without fundamental changes to iTunes.
I wonder if it licensing agreements that were put in place that need renegotiating. Steve had a tough time when he set all this up. Remember the music industry was very against the concept since so much Napster type music was out there that Steve's new plan gave instant legitimacy to. People forget they have Apple to thank for any of these services.
You obviously forgot that Google charges a monthly fee for its music service.
ITunes and Google Play music count double CDs as a single album. A least 70 % of my CDs are classical music, so my collection statistics will be quite different. Madame Butterfly from Puccini has 46 tracks, but counts as a single album.
Man, you must really love opera because they're the ONLY disks of any kind to get high track numbers in a regular way. Regular classical music has quite low track numbers per disk (3-5). In general I don't really like recorded classical or opera, it is simply very very far from what you get in person and I prefer going to performances.
You're case is quite exceptional; people with a 1000+ disks of Opera are not legion ;-). So, the people that are effectively affected by the 25K limit is low. For example, I've bought the equivalent of one CD a week for the last 30 years (many twice ;-) and I don't get near 25K tracks (about 18K). But, if Apple doesn't meet your needs. Of course, switch.
http://advertising.apple.com/benefits/
There's also an article here from a few months ago, before Apple began their program selling access to "you" to the highest bidder, but after they had started working with advertisers to re-target you with ads when you don't purchase from them.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/183542/apple-officially-begins-selling-automated-iads-in-bid-to-boost-mobile-advertising-business
AI even ran an article on it a couple months back. You can't pretend anymore that Apple isn't getting increasingly serious about the targeted ad business. Their stated goal is to take over 50% of the mobile ad market and that doesn't happen without rich, detailed user data to make sure ads are targeted at those most likely to be interested.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/183542/apple-officially-begins-selling-automated-iads-in-bid-to-boost-mobile-advertising-business.
...and yes you can opt-out of ad targeting with Apple just as you can with Google. Just need to know it's being done and where to look to opt out. Most folks would have no idea about it, nor probably particularly care in all reality.
It's time to realize that ad-targeting and data-mining go hand-in-hand and it happens on every big platform, Apple is no exception. As long as it's just for ads most folks won't consider it a big deal. There are companies other than Google and Apple that use it for other purposes. Acxiom would be one example. THOSE are the ones you should be worried about.
Look, just become the 51st State and be done with all these delays on Apple products and services.
You guys would love that wouldn't you. A sanctuary to flee to, away from all the ills and troubles of America.
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Eric Schmidt says he takes his into the shower.
I’ll let you in on a little secret, if you don't know it already.
iTunes is linked with Safari, so if you clear out your history and webdata in Safari, you will have to log into your account in iTunes again, even if you are logged in already. I believe this dates back years, and some tech guru here could probably explain it, but it seems archaic and suboptimal. iTunes probably needs a complete re-write from the ground up.
I'm not buying this explanation. Most of my iTunes use is on a Windows 7 PC and I have never installed Safari on it. I don't believe I even have the option to do that now.
I already ran from England to the US, you need to do your research better
I already ran from England to the US, you need to do your research better
Why did you do something dumb like that?
Many ex-Brits loving it up here in Canada... the weather not so much though.
Did it hurt? Landing on Plymouth Rock that is
The songs aren't free, but the storage for 50,000 songs is.