I have my fob in my pocket and I never have to take it out even to start the engine and drive. It also locks by the touch of my finger on the door handle.
Most cars that are sold around the world do not have a keyless entry system. It will most certainly be useful to them.
It’s as bad as MAC. As though it stands for something like PC.
Yep. And anyone who would put MAC in that context has no idea what a MAC address is. " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
I'm really debating whether to throw another 10-20K into Apple stock. If the Apple Watch launch is a massive success we could be in a valley right now. But who knows.
Most cars that are sold around the world do not have a keyless entry system. It will most certainly be useful to them.
I'm sorry, I don't want to sound rude, but this makes absolutely no sense to me. How will an Apple watch interface with the car's door lock and ignition if there is no onboard functionality to support it? If the car does not support keyless ignition, an Apple watch is not going to create that capability on its own. If anything I think this feature will be like CarPlay. It will only work on new cars that support it.
I have two cars with keyless entry: a 2008 Infiniti, and a 2012 Toyota Sienna. Both of these vehicle detect when the signal strength of their fobs are getting low, and they display a "low battery" warning on their instrumentation. This occurs well before you actually need to replace the battery. I went an extra month in the Infiniti without the battery dying before I got around to replacing it.
but what if your car battery is dead and your car can't tell you your FOB is about to die?
That's how ridiculous these concerns about a dead watch are. Your phone is the backup. I guarantee 1000000000x more people lock their physical keys in the car than will have their watch battery die. And thats the key. Its very EASY to leave your keys in a locked car but almost impossible to leave your watch in a locked car.
If your phone is your backup, then why do you need the watch in the first place?
The last time I bought a car was in 2012. Perhaps things have changed dramatically since then.....
(Add: I did buy my daughter a really nice, state-of-the-art Huyndai Elantra GT last year -- that does not have keyless entry).
Hmmmm... the Elantra offers proximity control for starts and doors in its 2015 offerings.
I guess it's just started to be offered in a lot of vehicles.
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Most cars that are sold around the world do not have a keyless entry system. It will most certainly be useful to them.
I'm sorry, I don't want to sound rude, but this makes absolutely no sense to me. How will an Apple watch interface with the car's door lock and ignition if there is no onboard functionality to support it? If the car does not support keyless ignition, an Apple watch is not going to create that capability on its own. If anything I think this feature will be like CarPlay. It will only work on new cars that support it.
Perhaps I was using the term 'keyless entry' incorrectly. What I was referring to was the so-called 'comfort access system' (which is what BMW calls it) in my car. As was mentioned before, just touch the door handle (with the key in your person) and the car unlocks (or locks).
Not many cars yet have it, afaik.
If by 'keyless' you thought I meant the typical near-distance, unlock the door without inserting the key system, yes, you are right. Almost all cars have it nowadays.
The last time I bought a car was in 2012. Perhaps things have changed dramatically since then.....
(Add: I did buy my daughter a really nice, state-of-the-art Huyndai Elantra GT last year -- that does not have keyless entry).
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Hmmmm... the Elantra offers proximity control for starts and doors in its 2015 offerings.
I guess it's just started to be offered in a lot of vehicles.
My 2005 Elantra had keyless entry and it wasn't even the top trim? But it doesn't have automagical unlocking on its own recognizance just from walking near it, nor keyless ignition start, if that's what you're talking about.
My 2005 Elantra had keyless entry and it wasn't even the top trim? But it doesn't have automagical unlocking on its own recognizance just from walking near it, nor keyless ignition start, if that's what you're talking about.
Yes, the key fobs that don't require you to press anything to gain access to the car. It also comes with a push button start, which is common (if not universal) with proximity access fobs.
Perhaps I was using the term 'keyless entry' incorrectly. What I was referring to was the so-called 'comfort access system' (which is what BMW calls it) in my car. As was mentioned before, just touch the door handle (with the key in your person) and the car unlocks (or locks).
Not many cars yet have it, afaik.
If by 'keyless' you thought I meant the typical near-distance, unlock the door without inserting the key system, yes, you are right. Almost all cars have it nowadays.
Sorry for any confusion!
I don't really understand the difference between the two.
Yes, the key fobs that don't require you to press anything to gain access to the car. It also comes with a push button start, which is common (if not universal) with proximity access fobs.
Interesting. 'Proximity key' was not an option when I bought the car in Dec 2013.
I don't really understand the difference between the two.
On some new cars having your fob in your pocket standing close to the car allows you to just reach for the door handle and the doors unlock. Same with the ignition. Just sitting in the drivers seat with all doors closed will allow you to press the start/stop engine button with the fob still in your pocket. Lastly when leaving you simply touch the designated spot on the door handle and all doors lock.
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I have my fob in my pocket and I never have to take it out even to start the engine and drive. It also locks by the touch of my finger on the door handle.
Most cars that are sold around the world do not have a keyless entry system. It will most certainly be useful to them.
Most cars that are sold around the world do not have a keyless entry system. It will most certainly be useful to them.
Is that right?
I thought that keyless entry was almost standard these days.
Thanks for not putting FOB. I always see people doing that and I'm like...what is FOB supposed to stand for?
"freight on board" (logistics/shipping industry term)
Is that right?
I thought that keyless entry was almost standard these days.
The last time I bought a car was in 2012. Perhaps things have changed dramatically since then.....
(Add: I did buy my daughter a really nice, state-of-the-art Huyndai Elantra GT last year -- that does not have keyless entry).
The last time I bought a car was in 2012. Perhaps things have changed dramatically since then.....
(Add: I did buy my daughter a really nice, state-of-the-art Huyndai Elantra GT last year -- that does not have keyless entry).
Hmmmm... the Elantra offers proximity control for starts and doors in its 2015 offerings.
I guess it's just started to be offered in a lot of vehicles.
It’s as bad as MAC. As though it stands for something like PC.
Yep. And anyone who would put MAC in that context has no idea what a MAC address is.
The Mac Maker's address is: Out Of This World.
I'm really debating whether to throw another 10-20K into Apple stock. If the Apple Watch launch is a massive success we could be in a valley right now. But who knows.
Do it. 20K.
I'm sorry, I don't want to sound rude, but this makes absolutely no sense to me. How will an Apple watch interface with the car's door lock and ignition if there is no onboard functionality to support it? If the car does not support keyless ignition, an Apple watch is not going to create that capability on its own. If anything I think this feature will be like CarPlay. It will only work on new cars that support it.
Wrong, sog.
I have two cars with keyless entry: a 2008 Infiniti, and a 2012 Toyota Sienna. Both of these vehicle detect when the signal strength of their fobs are getting low, and they display a "low battery" warning on their instrumentation. This occurs well before you actually need to replace the battery. I went an extra month in the Infiniti without the battery dying before I got around to replacing it.
but what if your car battery is dead and your car can't tell you your FOB is about to die?
That's how ridiculous these concerns about a dead watch are. Your phone is the backup. I guarantee 1000000000x more people lock their physical keys in the car than will have their watch battery die. And thats the key. Its very EASY to leave your keys in a locked car but almost impossible to leave your watch in a locked car.
If your phone is your backup, then why do you need the watch in the first place?
I rest my case.
If your phone is your backup, then why do you need the watch in the first place?
I rest my case.
Yes that is an excellent point which I was just about to write.
The last time I bought a car was in 2012. Perhaps things have changed dramatically since then.....
(Add: I did buy my daughter a really nice, state-of-the-art Huyndai Elantra GT last year -- that does not have keyless entry).
Hmmmm... the Elantra offers proximity control for starts and doors in its 2015 offerings.
I guess it's just started to be offered in a lot of vehicles.
I'm sorry, I don't want to sound rude, but this makes absolutely no sense to me. How will an Apple watch interface with the car's door lock and ignition if there is no onboard functionality to support it? If the car does not support keyless ignition, an Apple watch is not going to create that capability on its own. If anything I think this feature will be like CarPlay. It will only work on new cars that support it.
Perhaps I was using the term 'keyless entry' incorrectly. What I was referring to was the so-called 'comfort access system' (which is what BMW calls it) in my car. As was mentioned before, just touch the door handle (with the key in your person) and the car unlocks (or locks).
Not many cars yet have it, afaik.
If by 'keyless' you thought I meant the typical near-distance, unlock the door without inserting the key system, yes, you are right. Almost all cars have it nowadays.
Sorry for any confusion!
The last time I bought a car was in 2012. Perhaps things have changed dramatically since then.....
(Add: I did buy my daughter a really nice, state-of-the-art Huyndai Elantra GT last year -- that does not have keyless entry).
Hmmmm... the Elantra offers proximity control for starts and doors in its 2015 offerings.
I guess it's just started to be offered in a lot of vehicles.
My 2005 Elantra had keyless entry and it wasn't even the top trim? But it doesn't have automagical unlocking on its own recognizance just from walking near it, nor keyless ignition start, if that's what you're talking about.
If your phone is your backup, then why do you need the watch in the first place?
I rest my case.
Yes that is an excellent point which I was just about to write.
Great minds think alike.
Yes, the key fobs that don't require you to press anything to gain access to the car. It also comes with a push button start, which is common (if not universal) with proximity access fobs.
Great minds think alike.
Just a coincidence in this case. I'm not great in any capacity.
Great minds think alike.
Just a coincidence in this case. I'm not great in any capacity.
I’ll take your word for it, but I think you've written many great posts.
Perhaps I was using the term 'keyless entry' incorrectly. What I was referring to was the so-called 'comfort access system' (which is what BMW calls it) in my car. As was mentioned before, just touch the door handle (with the key in your person) and the car unlocks (or locks).
Not many cars yet have it, afaik.
If by 'keyless' you thought I meant the typical near-distance, unlock the door without inserting the key system, yes, you are right. Almost all cars have it nowadays.
Sorry for any confusion!
I don't really understand the difference between the two.
Yes, the key fobs that don't require you to press anything to gain access to the car. It also comes with a push button start, which is common (if not universal) with proximity access fobs.
Interesting. 'Proximity key' was not an option when I bought the car in Dec 2013.
On some new cars having your fob in your pocket standing close to the car allows you to just reach for the door handle and the doors unlock. Same with the ignition. Just sitting in the drivers seat with all doors closed will allow you to press the start/stop engine button with the fob still in your pocket. Lastly when leaving you simply touch the designated spot on the door handle and all doors lock.