My view of Tim Cook just dropped in value. Cramer is nothing more than a 2 bit snake oil salesman. he is constantly wrong about stocks. I think some Harvard students did a piece detailing his stock buying and advice and if you invested in what he says to buy. the return is zilch. he was so wrong in 2007 and 2008. his motto should be 'sail with Crammer and you sail with the Titanic'.
Free publicity, love him or hate him everyone knows who Cramer is, even non-investing peeps
My view of Tim Cook just dropped in value. Cramer is nothing more than a 2 bit snake oil salesman. he is constantly wrong about stocks. I think some Harvard students did a piece detailing his stock buying and advice and if you invested in what he says to buy. the return is zilch. he was so wrong in 2007 and 2008. his motto should be 'sail with Crammer and you sail with the Titanic'.
I don't have cable, but when I have seen him here and there on the net, he seems pretty entertaining, but can't take him serious. He's guessing the market like everyone else, and maybe more wrong than right!
Treated as entertainment only, and his show is fine.
Tim is smart - Cramer resonates in retail big time sadly. I actually respect Tim more as he called in to the bread and circus that is business news. If 16,009 people are whatsoever it is caught his wisdom his means justify the ends
Look at the chart Apple fell more last fall than IBM and is trading about the same level now using that as a starting point mid November. YOu can prove almost anything with a chart. No one could have known prior to IBM's bad earnings. Its so easy to prove a point in hind sight. Its tough to make predictions - so all that criticism about Cramer endorsing that analyst is twaddle at best. A typical bad piece of journalism pretending to masquerade as sensible, which it isn't. I remember the time period very well and it did look like Apple was in trouble and IBM on the ascendent
Your comment is 'twaddle'. You said, you can prove almost anything with a chart. So, you can bash the article for putting together facts for you to read, and then expect people not to call out silly comments like that? The fact is, he intentionally emphasized that this particular prediction would be accurate. He went as far as saying how the accuracy could be "staggering". That puts his credibility on the line. Then, he was wrong. This, despite the fact that his brazen endorsement was publicized on national media and could have swayed stock buyers purchases had they bought his fibs. That chart is staggeringly shameful.
My view of Tim Cook just dropped in value. Cramer is nothing more than a 2 bit snake oil salesman. he is constantly wrong about stocks. I think some Harvard students did a piece detailing his stock buying and advice and if you invested in what he says to buy. the return is zilch. he was so wrong in 2007 and 2008. his motto should be 'sail with Crammer and you sail with the Titanic'.
I am sure Tim had a long shower after that. It was clever marketing that's all. Tim certainly knows what a snake oil salesman Cramer is but a little charm and flattery works wonders on such creatures and better to have Cramer propounding 'buy and hold' these days. On that he finally said something right.
???? You're going to hell for that one but I also found it funny. Look me up when you get there.
I actually found that strangely distasteful and I grew up with Monty Python so that's saying something. I suspect Hell is infinitely customizable for those that believe. That Hell will be eternity with a Dell and Windows XP and dial up and a shared cell with a 300 pound bubba ... ????
Ignoring the benefit of hindsight, was Cramer wrong when he said that the charts at the time indicated IBM as a better buy than Apple? And if so, why did the charts give that indication when actual events didn't play out?
That'd be a much better bit of analysis than just remarking upon the path of the stock price. I'm pretty sure Cramer wouldn't deny being wrong, it's why he was wrong that matters.
My view of Tim Cook just dropped in value. Cramer is nothing more than a 2 bit snake oil salesman. he is constantly wrong about stocks. I think some Harvard students did a piece detailing his stock buying and advice and if you invested in what he says to buy. the return is zilch. he was so wrong in 2007 and 2008. his motto should be 'sail with Crammer and you sail with the Titanic'.
Cramer's a clown, and a former hedge fund hack, but his show influences a lot of gullible investors. Tim giving him some air time goes a long way to having Cramer as a cheerleader on a network equally and dumb as a FOX Business. CNBC and FOX Business are just gossip channels for folks too lazy to research about investments.
sternapples53, I think you might be being a touch short-sighted. I certainly think of Cramer as a buffoon in his TV persona, and not a great stock analyst even off-camera, but he reaches a big audience -- and that entire segment was not only one long commercial for Apple, it was a commercial for AAPL to be held long-term (which is very solid stock advice). Tim got a chance to push not just his stock but to inform a crowd that didn't pay attention to the "Spring Forward" thing a little bit about the long-term stuff they are up to, plus he personally sold another business on using Apple Pay, plus Cramer reminded everyone that this is a leading America-based company that is the leader in innovation.
You can't buy what Cramer gave Cook, or what Cook gave Cramer.
I flinch everytime Apple hosts an event, blue-skying what the new Apple device will do for the world. Having been a beta tester for far too long, it's getting tedious to see all of these wonderful Apple Watch apps working, knowing very well that Xcode and iOS betas are in a state of disarray.
No the chart very clearly shows that IBM immediately trended negative, then nearly recovered, and has since fallen significantly, while Apple was up, up and more up. The entire analysis was based on chart shaping, not fundamentals. If you remember being wrong back then, well, then, yes, you were wrong, too. Cramer endorsed magic chart numerology, and was wrong about it.
Journalism is the practice to recording what happened, and this is what happened.
Also, please don't quote entire articles into your comments.
IF you look at the chart starting on Nov 1st you see Apple falls away very fast down from just under the +40% line to just above the +20% line then it trades sideways for 3 rolls before rising up to just over the +40%, a very slight increase in 3 1/3 month
IF you look at IBM over the same period it falls from about the -10% line down to just over the -20% line this IS NOT AS MUCH AS APPLE FELL over the same period then IBM recovered to just below where it was in Nov 1st.
So I stand by my original statement which was "Look at the chart Apple fell more last fall than IBM and is trading about the same level now using that as a starting point"
My view of Tim Cook just dropped in value. Cramer is nothing more than a 2 bit snake oil salesman. he is constantly wrong about stocks. I think some Harvard students did a piece detailing his stock buying and advice and if you invested in what he says to buy. the return is zilch. he was so wrong in 2007 and 2008. his motto should be 'sail with Crammer and you sail with the Titanic'.
That's true about Cramer, but Cook just gamed him with a bit of jujutsu, leveraging Cramer's monumental ego to box him up and neutralize him for some time to come. A live phone call from Tim Cook! The CEO of the world's largest market-value enterprise just flattered Cramer! How can Cramer play his old games - creating FUD about Apple - after that? Cook took over Cramer's audience to drop a big Apple commercial on them, while Cramer stood there bedazzled to the point that he abandoned any of his traditional contrariness. Did Cook administer a pill or a suppository? It really doesn't matter, because he dosed Cramer but good!
My view of Tim Cook just dropped in value. Cramer is nothing more than a 2 bit snake oil salesman. he is constantly wrong about stocks. I think some Harvard students did a piece detailing his stock buying and advice and if you invested in what he says to buy. the return is zilch. he was so wrong in 2007 and 2008. his motto should be 'sail with Crammer and you sail with the Titanic'.
That's true about Cramer, but Cook just gamed him with a bit of jujutsu, leveraging Cramer's monumental ego to box him up and neutralize him for some time to come. A live phone call from Tim Cook! The CEO of the world's largest market-value enterprise just flattered Cramer! How can Cramer play his old games - creating FUD about Apple - after that? Cook took over Cramer's audience to drop a big Apple commercial on them, while Cramer stood there bedazzled to the point that he abandoned any of his traditional contrariness. Did Cook administer a pill or a suppository? It really doesn't matter, because he dosed Cramer but good!
It's wrong to think that Cramer will only ever recommend buying Apple as a result of Cook's appearance. The time will come when Cramer recommends selling Apple. Stocks don't go up in a straight line.
That's true about Cramer, but Cook just gamed him with a bit of jujutsu, leveraging Cramer's monumental ego to box him up and neutralize him for some time to come. A live phone call from Tim Cook! The CEO of the world's largest market-value enterprise just flattered Cramer! How can Cramer play his old games - creating FUD about Apple - after that? Cook took over Cramer's audience to drop a big Apple commercial on them, while Cramer stood there bedazzled to the point that he abandoned any of his traditional contrariness. Did Cook administer a pill or a suppository? It really doesn't matter, because he dosed Cramer but good!
Isn't Cramer simply the symptom of a greater disease in American culture . It's called sensationlism and overhype and the constant attention to trivia. As one dead comedian pointed out, we are living in a freak show and we get a front row seat?
It's wrong to think that Cramer will only ever recommend buying Apple as a result of Cook's appearance. The time will come when Cramer recommends selling Apple. Stocks don't go up in a straight line.
I said "neutralize." I specifically did not say "recommend." Cramer's "recommendations" are to his following of avaricious day-traders, Nervous Nellies, and ignorant greedy and stupid. Cook's phone call has made it more difficult for him to diss Apple's long-term prospects again without this conversation coming back to haunt him. I choose my words carefully. Please read them more closely in the future.
Isn't Cramer simply the symptom of a greater disease in American culture . It's called sensationlism and overhype and the constant attention to trivia. As one dead comedian pointed out, we are living in a freak show and we get a front row seat?
Tell us more about that dead comedian pointing out things ... there's a freak for sure!
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My view of Tim Cook just dropped in value. Cramer is nothing more than a 2 bit snake oil salesman. he is constantly wrong about stocks. I think some Harvard students did a piece detailing his stock buying and advice and if you invested in what he says to buy. the return is zilch. he was so wrong in 2007 and 2008. his motto should be 'sail with Crammer and you sail with the Titanic'.
I don't have cable, but when I have seen him here and there on the net, he seems pretty entertaining, but can't take him serious. He's guessing the market like everyone else, and maybe more wrong than right!
Treated as entertainment only, and his show is fine.
Tim Cook wanted Steve to have his organ inside him?
Well, I guess that's a DEFINITE confirmation that he's gay...
(Joke! Joke!)
Steve didn't eat meat.
Nor spotted dick, as far as I'm aware. ????
Your comment is 'twaddle'. You said, you can prove almost anything with a chart. So, you can bash the article for putting together facts for you to read, and then expect people not to call out silly comments like that? The fact is, he intentionally emphasized that this particular prediction would be accurate. He went as far as saying how the accuracy could be "staggering". That puts his credibility on the line. Then, he was wrong. This, despite the fact that his brazen endorsement was publicized on national media and could have swayed stock buyers purchases had they bought his fibs. That chart is staggeringly shameful.
I am sure Tim had a long shower after that. It was clever marketing that's all. Tim certainly knows what a snake oil salesman Cramer is but a little charm and flattery works wonders on such creatures and better to have Cramer propounding 'buy and hold' these days. On that he finally said something right.
I actually found that strangely distasteful and I grew up with Monty Python so that's saying something. I suspect Hell is infinitely customizable for those that believe. That Hell will be eternity with a Dell and Windows XP and dial up and a shared cell with a 300 pound bubba ... ????
Ignoring the benefit of hindsight, was Cramer wrong when he said that the charts at the time indicated IBM as a better buy than Apple? And if so, why did the charts give that indication when actual events didn't play out?
That'd be a much better bit of analysis than just remarking upon the path of the stock price. I'm pretty sure Cramer wouldn't deny being wrong, it's why he was wrong that matters.
The two exchanged [B]compliments[/B],...
Cramer's a clown, and a former hedge fund hack, but his show influences a lot of gullible investors. Tim giving him some air time goes a long way to having Cramer as a cheerleader on a network equally and dumb as a FOX Business. CNBC and FOX Business are just gossip channels for folks too lazy to research about investments.
You can't buy what Cramer gave Cook, or what Cook gave Cramer.
No the chart very clearly shows that IBM immediately trended negative, then nearly recovered, and has since fallen significantly, while Apple was up, up and more up. The entire analysis was based on chart shaping, not fundamentals. If you remember being wrong back then, well, then, yes, you were wrong, too. Cramer endorsed magic chart numerology, and was wrong about it.
Journalism is the practice to recording what happened, and this is what happened.
Also, please don't quote entire articles into your comments.
IF you look at the chart starting on Nov 1st you see Apple falls away very fast down from just under the +40% line to just above the +20% line then it trades sideways for 3 rolls before rising up to just over the +40%, a very slight increase in 3 1/3 month
IF you look at IBM over the same period it falls from about the -10% line down to just over the -20% line this IS NOT AS MUCH AS APPLE FELL over the same period then IBM recovered to just below where it was in Nov 1st.
So I stand by my original statement which was "Look at the chart Apple fell more last fall than IBM and is trading about the same level now using that as a starting point"
My view of Tim Cook just dropped in value. Cramer is nothing more than a 2 bit snake oil salesman. he is constantly wrong about stocks. I think some Harvard students did a piece detailing his stock buying and advice and if you invested in what he says to buy. the return is zilch. he was so wrong in 2007 and 2008. his motto should be 'sail with Crammer and you sail with the Titanic'.
That's true about Cramer, but Cook just gamed him with a bit of jujutsu, leveraging Cramer's monumental ego to box him up and neutralize him for some time to come. A live phone call from Tim Cook! The CEO of the world's largest market-value enterprise just flattered Cramer! How can Cramer play his old games - creating FUD about Apple - after that? Cook took over Cramer's audience to drop a big Apple commercial on them, while Cramer stood there bedazzled to the point that he abandoned any of his traditional contrariness. Did Cook administer a pill or a suppository? It really doesn't matter, because he dosed Cramer but good!
It's wrong to think that Cramer will only ever recommend buying Apple as a result of Cook's appearance. The time will come when Cramer recommends selling Apple. Stocks don't go up in a straight line.
Isn't Cramer simply the symptom of a greater disease in American culture . It's called sensationlism and overhype and the constant attention to trivia. As one dead comedian pointed out, we are living in a freak show and we get a front row seat?
I said "neutralize." I specifically did not say "recommend." Cramer's "recommendations" are to his following of avaricious day-traders, Nervous Nellies, and ignorant greedy and stupid. Cook's phone call has made it more difficult for him to diss Apple's long-term prospects again without this conversation coming back to haunt him. I choose my words carefully. Please read them more closely in the future.
Isn't Cramer simply the symptom of a greater disease in American culture . It's called sensationlism and overhype and the constant attention to trivia. As one dead comedian pointed out, we are living in a freak show and we get a front row seat?
Tell us more about that dead comedian pointing out things ... there's a freak for sure!