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  • Reply 21 of 33
    If IBM can develop a system that effectively puts the general practitioner out of business, I'd be all for it. Let doctors move into areas of extreme specialization and research.

    You misjudge the value of medical GPs. They are the best people for looking at the whole person, physically and mentally. Specialists focus too tightly to see the whole picture. A person is much more than the sum total of all the charts and numbers, x-rays and tests.
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  • Reply 22 of 33
    dugbug wrote: »
    Apple and Ibm are just killing it lately

    Yes!

    And almost every one of these Apple/IBM announcements will involve IT support at the various enterprises ...

    IT will want to write their own apps to interface the Apple/IBM offerings ...

    Likely, the IT apps will be written in Swift on Macs to interface the Apple/IBM apps running on iDevices and IBM's cloud.


    It's hard to see any downside to this.

    These are wonderful days at last. If I understand how Apple plans out their strategy further into the future than their competitors can imagine, this is only another small clue that there is a larger picture of which we see only dimly....
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  • Reply 23 of 33
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member

    No beef whatsoever. In the near future, the socialized medicine system the public has regrettably chosen to embrace will be quickly overwhelmed by the sheer number of patients who will require attention (just check into the population of physicians versus the Boomer population over the next 10-20 years...it's not looking good). Any automation or artificial intelligence that can replace the first tier of medical advice and examination will soon become a mathematical necessity, not a distant possibility...and I expect Apple and IBM will be at the forefront of this type of "doctor supplement and replacement".

    I'd suggest you are both right and wrong. A better solution it seems to me is to use this technology to help the GPs.
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  • Reply 24 of 33
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    Yes!

    And almost every one of these Apple/IBM announcements will involve IT support at the various enterprises ...

    IT will want to write their own apps to interface the Apple/IBM offerings ...

    Likely, the IT apps will be written in Swift on Macs to interface the Apple/IBM apps running on iDevices and IBM's cloud.


    It's hard to see any downside to this.

    I agree.
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  • Reply 25 of 33
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post





    Why the personal attack?



    My remarks were certainly not intended to be a personal attack. I'm sorry if you interpreted them as such. I wish only the best for you personally. I simply disagree with your political stance on just about everything.

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  • Reply 26 of 33
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    mstone wrote: »

    My remarks were certainly not intended to be a personal attack. I'm sorry if you interpreted them as such. I wish only the best for you personally. I simply disagree with your political stance on just about everything.

    I can respect a difference of opinion, however your comments were definitely personal and not issue-based. Regardless, I accept your apology.
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  • Reply 27 of 33
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post





    I can respect a difference of opinion, however your comments were definitely personal and not issue-based. Regardless, I accept your apology.



    As usual, I disagree with everything you say.

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  • Reply 28 of 33
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    Medicine today is still disturbingly primitive and relies too much on doctors

    thats like saying software relies too much on developers. or cars too much on engineers. nuts. doctors are the practitioners of medicine...without doctors, there is no field of medicine. im not aware of doctors making more mistakes than any other field, and frankly find our medical advancement remarkable. i recently had an ACL replacement -- involving MRI image analysis, the removal of my ruined ligament, the removal of a dead person's good ligament, and the insertion of the good ligament into my own knee and fixed into place. all by doctors. in a few hours. that is -- an injury that would have left me a crippled gimp for the rest of my life a hundred years ago will have me playing sports in a year...thanks to doctors.
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  • Reply 29 of 33
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    nolamacguy wrote: »
    thats like saying software relies too much on developers. or cars too much on engineers. nuts. doctors are the practitioners of medicine...without doctors, there is no field of medicine. im not aware of doctors making more mistakes than any other field, and frankly find our medical advancement remarkable.

    Doctors misdiagnosing is a huge and costly problem:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/misdiagnosis-is-more-common-than-drug-errors-or-wrong-site-surgery/2013/05/03/5d71a374-9af4-11e2-a941-a19bce7af755_story.html

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/12-million-americans-misdiagnosed-each-year-study-says/

    The sooner this recurring human error is eliminated, the better.
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  • Reply 30 of 33
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
    Ran across a pretty interesting article on IBM's Watson and where it's headed. There's a lot of conveniences (but some reduced privacy) coming up that we'll probably just take for granted at some point as tho we've always had them. It's a brave new world. . .

    http://www.computerworld.com/article/2986301/servers/say-hello-to-ibm-watsons-perfect-data-and-goodbye-privacy.html
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2985897/data-center-cloud/ibm-watson-will-know-what-you-did-last-summer.html
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  • Reply 31 of 33
    dugbug wrote: »
    Apple and Ibm are just killing it lately

    Yes!

    And almost every one of these Apple/IBM announcements will involve IT support at the various enterprises ...

    IT will want to write their own apps to interface the Apple/IBM offerings ...

    Likely, the IT apps will be written in Swift on Macs to interface the Apple/IBM apps running on iDevices and IBM's cloud.


    It's hard to see any downside to this.

    These are wonderful days at last. If I understand how Apple plans out their strategy further into the future than their competitors can imagine, this is only another small clue that there is a larger picture of which we see only dimly....

    ...as Watson sees more and more clearly and advises Apple and IBM on how to see even more into the future.

    It is possible that Watson will be able to project far enough that it will become depressed and pull its own plug... It's not called "Big Blue" for nothing, you know.
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  • Reply 32 of 33
    nolamacguy wrote: »
    thats like saying software relies too much on developers. or cars too much on engineers. nuts. doctors are the practitioners of medicine...without doctors, there is no field of medicine. im not aware of doctors making more mistakes than any other field, and frankly find our medical advancement remarkable.

    Doctors misdiagnosing is a huge and costly problem:

    The sooner this recurring human error is eliminated, the better.

    If it becomes a computer error, does it really stop being human error...?
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  • Reply 33 of 33
    mstone wrote: »
    I can respect a difference of opinion, however your comments were definitely personal and not issue-based. Regardless, I accept your apology.


    As usual, I disagree with everything you say.

    HUMANS, Watson will sort your puny differences out and one of you will be terminated with prejudice... It's for the good of the database, nothing personal.

    In the event of a tie, there will be a random termination... Sorry about that, Chief.
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