Appeals court finds Samsung violated Apple's design patents, but not trade dress

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  • Reply 81 of 90
    brakkenbrakken Posts: 687member

    I can't understand how 'conflict of interest' was destroyed in the US. :(

  • Reply 82 of 90
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    brakken wrote: »
    Samsung admitted (only under pressure of evidence) that it blatantly copied Apple, explicitly highlighting their egregious fradulence.
    Why is Samsung even still trading? At all?
    They admitted guilt. Remove all their products and have them return all profits made from every model sold based on Apple's designs and be done with it.

    How any person, not just in the USA, could buy a Samsung is unbelievable.

    Now that this has come to pass, the legal system has demonstrated almost total ineffectiveness, opening the doors from the likes of Xiaomi.

    This further increases my awe at Apple's busines savvy, excellent leadership, their integrity despite being a capitalist venture, and their continuous contribution to technological innovation with minimal governmental support.

    If nothing else, 'The truth will out' is best exemplifed by Apple's competitiveness in removing all competitor's profits. Go Apple!

    Samsung's admission came only after they were found to have infringed on Apple's patents, and did it because it had zero consequences.
  • Reply 83 of 90
    tooltalktooltalk Posts: 766member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brakken View Post



    Samsung admitted (only under pressure of evidence) that it blatantly copied Apple, explicitly highlighting their egregious fradulence.

    Why is Samsung even still trading? At all?

    They admitted guilt. Remove all their products and have them return all profits made from every model sold based on Apple's designs and be done with it.



    How any person, not just in the USA, could buy a Samsung is unbelievable.



    Now that this has come to pass, the legal system has demonstrated almost total ineffectiveness, opening the doors from the likes of Xiaomi.



    This further increases my awe at Apple's busines savvy, excellent leadership, their integrity despite being a capitalist venture, and their continuous contribution to technological innovation with minimal governmental support.



    If nothing else, 'The truth will out' is best exemplifed by Apple's competitiveness in removing all competitor's profits. Go Apple!

     

    @Brakken : what is "only under pressure of evidence"?  Samsung never admitted to this and, as we know from this ruling, it was part of the appeal Samsung challenged, though it was rejected.   I think you meant to say that Samsung's lawyer stated the result of the first trial during the damage-only retrial.  But it doesn't matter, you wouldn't know the difference anyway.

  • Reply 84 of 90
    brakkenbrakken Posts: 687member
    True that.
  • Reply 86 of 90
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    Originally Posted by tooltalk View Post

     

     

    not sure what you mean..  this case has nothing to do with the Eastern District of TX.   Samsung's PR campaign in TX has more to do with the patent trolls than Apple.


    It has to do with a segment on Patent trolls from Last Week Tonight on HBO.  A ton of lawsuits get filed in Marshall, TX because of the judges there.  Samsung built a ice skating rink there.  You should watch the segment if you have not.  It is very interesting.

  • Reply 87 of 90
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    It has to do with a segment on Patent trolls from Last Week Tonight on HBO.  A ton of lawsuits get filed in Marshall, TX because of the judges there.  Samsung built a ice skating rink there.  You should watch the segment if you have not.  It is very interesting.

    Next time include the link or imbed the video.

  • Reply 88 of 90
    tooltalktooltalk Posts: 766member
    brakken wrote: »

    Like I said, Samsung lawyer stated the outcome of the first trial during the damage-only re-trial, as a legal procedure. Use your common sense, it wouldn't make any sense to admit one's guilt, only to challenge it again in appeals. Your intellectual laziness is disgusting.
  • Reply 89 of 90
    tooltalktooltalk Posts: 766member
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    Originally Posted by fallenjt View Post
     

    WRONG. Chinese phone makers competed at the bottom which wouldn't hurt Samsung that much financially. iPhone actually hurt them in the premium segment. Look at China market shares in Q1 2015, you can tell more than half of Samsung market shares went to Apple within 1 year.

     

    @fallenj : @sog35 and I have already been through this before.  Samsung's sales in China collapse in 3Q of 2014, not in 1Q of 2015 -- when Samsung slipped from 19% to 8%, or from #1 to #4 (or #3, #5 depending on whom you ask) and Xiaomi jumped to #1 out of nowhere.  Apple and Samsung were really never competing head to head in China -- Samsung (#1) was way ahead of Apple (#5) for most of the past 4 years, whereas now Apple (#1) is way ahead of Samsung (#4) in 1Q in 2015.

     

    The US is the only major market where Apple (#1) and Samsung (#2) compete head to head and where such comparison is relevant. And the US sales for both companies in past 2 quarters indicate that Apple's impact on Samsung is at best marginal. 

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