WWDC attendees greeted with jackets featuring Apple Watch San Francisco font, Swift code

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  • Reply 61 of 83
    thewhitefalconthewhitefalcon Posts: 4,453member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ascii View Post

     

    Universal apps?




    One OS! /s

  • Reply 62 of 83
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,505member
    rogifan wrote: »
    Of course Cook as CEO would be on stage. And if Schiller is on stage it's to talk new hardware. Yes I'm aware WWDC keynote is to a wider audience than just developers but the past two years have been quite focused with little "here's the state of Apple" stuff thrown in.
    Ugh, they need someone new. Phil just doesn't do it for me, he just reads marketing copy. :(

    Don't underestimate Phil's abilities ... (when he first became visible, I had the same impression as you).

    Phil is the executive heading one of the most (if not the most ) successful marketing and sales organizations in the world. Apparently, Phil is qualified enough to satisfy some pretty tough masters ... Steve and Tim!
  • Reply 63 of 83
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,505member
    ascii wrote: »
     
    Universal apps?


    One OS! /s

    HandIn instead of HandOff /s
  • Reply 64 of 83
    inklinginkling Posts: 731member
    Apple might want to make some of the fonts they've created available through Adobe's Typekit, so they're more widely known.

    Nice too to know that these jackets were "Made in the USA" rather than by children in some dreadful third-world sweatshop.
  • Reply 65 of 83
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 30,834member
    inkling wrote: »
    Apple might want to make some of the fonts they've created available through Adobe's Typekit, so they're more widely known.

    Nice too to know that these jackets were "Made in the USA" rather than by children in some dreadful third-world sweatshop.

    Always the jokester.
  • Reply 66 of 83
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,505member
    inkling wrote: »
    Apple might want to make some of the fonts they've created available through Adobe's Typekit, so they're more widely known.

    Nice too to know that these jackets were "Made in the USA" rather than by children in some dreadful third-world sweatshop.

    Ya' know, I am as much of a Smart Ass as anyone on these forums ...

    Is it really necessary to add a downer, to a positive article?

    I suppose that you would prefer that the children in some dreadful third-world sweatshop be put out of work?
  • Reply 67 of 83
    MacProMacPro Posts: 18,139member
    Are you excited about today as I am?

    Of course :) That said, I have been excited about every Apple event there has ever been! I used to love the ones they held for dealers where they always had some silly in house 'for Apple folks only' videos to get us warmed up (e.g. the Knowledge Navigator). I am a cynic normally but the one exception is always Apple events, I love them all, it's like Disney and Santa rolled into one for me. Some of my fondest memories are when we got advance introductions and hands on with new stuff like Lisa, Apple ///, Macintosh and so on and yes i always bought the dealer specials. :smokey: "I'll take 4 Profile HDs, two with Apple][ stands!"
  • Reply 68 of 83
    thewhitefalconthewhitefalcon Posts: 4,453member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post





    Don't underestimate Phil's abilities ... (when he first became visible, I had the same impression as you).



    Phil is the executive heading one of the most (if not the most ) successful marketing and sales organizations in the world. Apparently, Phil is qualified enough to satisfy some pretty tough masters ... Steve and Tim!



    He's fine marketing. But introing new products is not his forte; he reads bullet points. He's gotten better but...it's just not the same.

  • Reply 69 of 83
    inklinginkling Posts: 731member


    Always the jokester.


     

    Not joking. Not joking at all. Dead serious.

     

    In the aftermath of World War I, G. K. Chesterton blasted internationalists who, he said, "love every country but their own." He was being sarcastic. This world set feigned concern for the world to justify nasty agendas such as H. G. Wells' brutally regimented World State (see his A Modern Utopia). Chesterton's classic 1922 Eugenics and Other Evils is an attack on all those who want an expert few to dictate to the many.

     

    Even Chesterton's emphasis that within a society such regimentation would emphasize the medical has proved prophetic. The essence of Obamacare is precisely that you can't keep your doctor, your hospital, or you healthcare plan. Your "betters," meaning officious people such as MIT's Jonathan Gruber, will make those decisions for you because, as he has claimed, you and I are "stupid." And not accidentally, Gruber is growing quite rich dictating what you and I cannot do when we get sick.

     

    Another aspect of that internationalism is to sneer at one's own country while getting rich by exporting work to where the labor costs are cheapest. That's the essence of my oft-repeated blasts at Apple's slogan "Designed in California. Assembled in China." It sneers at the rest of the country, assuming the rest of cannot design as well. And it assembles in China, where the labor costs are cheaper. 

     

    That's why Apple buying jackets made in the U.S. is worthy of praise. It's a step in the right direction.

     

    Now Apple needs to get realistic enough to realize that this isn't the 1960s. California is now one of the worst of states. Being there bestows no bragging rights.  If you don't live in affluent neighborhoods, your California schools are among the worst in the country. And welfare/poverty in the state is three times the national average. Nor should we forget the water shortages, left unprepared for by the state's eco-hysterical voters and a political class that's unable to anticipate the obvious.

     

    --Michael W. Perry, author of Chesterton on War and Peace: Battling the Ideas and Movements that Led to Nazism and World War II

  • Reply 70 of 83
    asciiascii Posts: 5,941member
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    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post



    I suppose that you would prefer that the children in some dreadful third-world sweatshop be put out of work?

    The question of whether people in poor countries are better off getting a sweatshop job or no job at all - I think Apple has shown (with their electronics manufacture) that to be a false alternative. 

     

    You can contract the work to a poor country *and* put certain minimum safety/labour standards in the contract. And that's not anti-capitalist because a contract is a contract, you can put whatever conditions in it you want and the overseas partner can take it or leave it.

  • Reply 71 of 83
    jakebjakeb Posts: 557member
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    Originally Posted by Sporlo View Post



    Does no other language use "let" in that context? Just curious.



    ES6 does.

  • Reply 72 of 83
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,505member
    Are you excited about today as I am?

    Of course :) That said, I have been excited about every Apple event there has ever been! I used to love the ones they held for dealers where they always had some silly in house 'for Apple folks only' videos to get us warmed up (e.g. the Knowledge Navigator). I am a cynic normally but the one exception is always Apple events, I love them all, it's like Disney and Santa rolled into one for me. Some of my fondest memories are when we got advance introductions and hands on with new stuff like Lisa, Apple ///, Macintosh and so on and yes i always bought the dealer specials. :smokey: "I'll take 4 Profile HDs, two with Apple][ stands!"

    LOL

    No Profiles for us -- We had Corvus HDs and Omninet instead of Profiles and AppleTalk ... Sold 7 Corvus networks to Apple Cupertino and 1 to the IBM plant in San Jose ... and 1 to EMI-Thorne in your [then] neck of the woods!
  • Reply 73 of 83
    danielswdanielsw Posts: 905member
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    Originally Posted by 9secondko View Post



    THe connections are cool.



    I really don't care for the San Francisco font as a designer.



    Sure, it MAY help the watch be more readable, but it adds nothiing to the phone, tablet. or computer. And it doesn't look as nice as Apple's variant of Helvetica Neue.



    I guess they feel the need to shake things up when too many deisgners copy them.



    How would you feel if your work was criticized like you're criticizing Apple's?

     

    How about coming up with something constructive, or at least holding your tongue until you do?

  • Reply 74 of 83
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,505member
    ascii wrote: »
    I suppose that you would prefer that the children in some dreadful third-world sweatshop be put out of work?
    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">The question of whether people in poor countries are better off getting a sweatshop job or no job at all - I think Apple has shown (with their electronics manufacture) that to be a false alternative. </span>


    You can contract the work to a poor country *and* put certain minimum safety/labour standards in the contract. And that's not anti-capitalist because a contract is a contract, you can put whatever conditions in it you want and the overseas partner can take it or leave it.

    I agree!

    And, as I posted earlier, I believe that this is one of the ways that Tim/Apple (and Steve/Apple too, did) try to change the world -- not just with the products they build, but with the way they build them..

    That said (Hate that phrase), IMO, apple is really screwing up in the packaging (and assembly, delivery costs) of the Apple watch. There is way too much, unnecessary, heavy, non-biodegradable plastic in the Watch package ... Even worse, my daughter received her extra Watch band in the exact same, over-done, packaging as the Watch ... what a waste -- totally non-Apple, non-minimalist!
  • Reply 75 of 83
    danielswdanielsw Posts: 905member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sporlo View Post



    Does no other language use "let" in that context? Just curious.



    What's your point?

     

    I think let is ingenious and fitting, as it is more "conversational" than "set", and it harkens to an inter-human discussion of a logical point: "Let this quantity equal. . ." would be an opening statement, just as variable value assignments typically open a section of code.

  • Reply 76 of 83
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

    What's all the fuss about this font? I've had it since 1984!




     

    I love all the original fonts. I don’t know why they removed them from OS X.

     

    Also, here’s an animated WWDC logo in HTML5/CSS.

  • Reply 77 of 83
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    I love all the original fonts. I don’t know why they removed them from OS X.

     

    Also, here’s an animated WWDC logo in HTML5/CSS.




    That made me dizzy. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 78 of 83
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,505member

    I love all the original fonts. I don’t know why they removed them from OS X.

    Also, here’s an animated WWDC logo in HTML5/CSS.

    Hey TS!

    Now, I am convinced that a new AppleTV will be announced at WWDC,
  • Reply 79 of 83
    MacProMacPro Posts: 18,139member
    LOL

    No Profiles for us -- We had Corvus HDs and Omninet instead of Profiles and AppleTalk ... Sold 7 Corvus networks to Apple Cupertino and 1 to the IBM plant in San Jose ... and 1 to EMI-Thorne in your [then] neck of the woods!

    Cool story. We were the Corvus dealer for the area too. I remember the excitement when they went from 5 to 10 and then 20 MB! Plus we had fiber optic networking on Apple][s! Hard to believe but true. It was a system from a Croydon UK firm called Symbiotic.
  • Reply 80 of 83
    9secondko9secondko Posts: 929member
    As a fellow designer I think the new font looks attractive. I don't think Helvetica looks as nice as San Francisco. I love the modern look. It's also a little more masculine, but not too much.

    It is definitely more masculine. Not TOO much, but it's noticeable.

    AS I am seeing the implementation on iOS 9 and OS X EC, it looks much more palatable, but I can't help that it feels like a bit of a backward step. It's not really more modern looking. In fact, it appears to come from a less high tech era.

    As a designer, you know that tastes vary and you also know that as art styles mature and tastes converge, it is increasingly difficult to differentiate yourself. while Helvetica Neue definitly looks ultra modern (even though it is very old - much credit to the original designer of Helvetica. Wow), San Francisco upon seeing it in loarger formats, looks like it was actually based on HN. Of course, I could be wrong, but that's the sense I get. They seem to accomplish the same things, but the SF font is noticeably more "tough" and fits well with the ? Music theme.
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