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  • Reply 41 of 45
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    blah64 wrote: »
    Not to sidetrack from the above, but here's a question: Is there any reason to know definitively that Google doesn't buy data from Axciom and and their ilk? I think it's pretty clear that g doesn't sell data to them, but those companies happy to sell to whoever/whenever/however, right? Why not google/facebook and other online companies that can leverage that data?
    I don't believe we can know for absolute certainty but I can't find any reference to Google and Axciom having any kind of business relationship, and assume you couldn't either which is why you asked.

    .We do know for a fact that Apple buys data from them but not specifically what it entails (Apple doesn't discuss those things), and Facebook has a pretty well-known partnership with them where they share user information with Axciom and in return get data on Facebook users to combine with their Facebook profiles.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-and-acxioms-big-data-partnership-2013-9
  • Reply 42 of 45
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    blah64 wrote: »

    http://blogs.findlaw.com/technologist/2013/09/5-takeaways-from-the-google-email-scanning-lawsuit.html

    Read through to the very last line.

    I haven't been keeping up with this lawsuit; for all I know it's been dismissed.
    I don't find a single thing on this since last year when Judge Koh was deciding whether there was standing for this to go forward as a class-action. But during my search I did find another lawsuit over the exact same issue of email scanning, this one targeting Yahoo:
    http://www.impactlitigation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Cert-Order-public-redacted-version.pdf

    I don't recall that one making it into the news here or elsewhere but perhaps it did. I also vaguely recall Earthlink being sued over email several years ago but didn't find the case details in a quick look. EDIT: LOL! It's even mentioned in the article I linked, but no details.

    EDIT: And another against Facebook over message scanning for advertising purposes.
    http://www.techtimes.com/articles/23010/20141226/u-s-judge-facebook-cannot-avoid-class-action-lawsuit-over-scanning-users-private-messages-for-advertising-purposes.htm
  • Reply 43 of 45
    blah64blah64 Posts: 993member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    I don't believe we can know for absolute certainty but I can't find any reference to Google and Axciom having any kind of business relationship, and assume you couldn't either which is why you asked.

    .We do know for a fact that Apple buys data from them but not specifically what it entails (Apple doesn't discuss those things), and Facebook has a pretty well-known partnership with them where they share user information with Axciom and in return get data on Facebook users to combine with their Facebook profiles.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-and-acxioms-big-data-partnership-2013-9

    I doubt much of this would be discussed publicly, if they were smart.

    I did know about the Facebook relationship (nasty), I did not know about the Apple relationship. A quick 2-searches just now only showed them providing map data, which isn't personal, and I imagine they'd sell to any and all online companies. Is there more than that with Apple?
  • Reply 44 of 45
    blah64blah64 Posts: 993member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    I don't find a single thing on this since last year when Judge Koh was deciding whether there was standing for this to go forward as a class-action. But during my search I did find another lawsuit over the exact same issue of email scanning, this one targeting Yahoo:
    http://www.impactlitigation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Cert-Order-public-redacted-version.pdf

    I don't recall that one making it into the news here or elsewhere but perhaps it did. I also vaguely recall Earthlink being sued over email several years ago but didn't find the case details in a quick look. EDIT: LOL! It's even mentioned in the article I linked, but no details.

    EDIT: And another against Facebook over message scanning for advertising purposes.
    http://www.techtimes.com/articles/23010/20141226/u-s-judge-facebook-cannot-avoid-class-action-lawsuit-over-scanning-users-private-messages-for-advertising-purposes.htm

    The facebook situation is different because every single user has opted into their system. I'm only mildly sympathetic.

    The gmail (and y-mail, I presume?) situation is vile because they are gathering data about people who have never agreed to any kind of google/yahoo ToS. That's why I think this case might possibly have legs. But remember, I said possibly, not likely!
  • Reply 45 of 45
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    blah64 wrote: »
    A quick 2-searches just now only showed them providing map data, which isn't personal, and I imagine they'd sell to any and all online companies. Is there more than that with Apple?
    Yes sir. Acxiom data is also used within iAd for more effective ad targeting. Apple does an excellent job at keeping some of the relationships on the down-low, while very effectively directing attention towards other tech players.

    "But Apple does sell targeted advertising. Its iAd unit allows advertisers to reach users on Apple mobile devices based on their age, gender, home address, iTunes purchases, and App Store downloads. It works with data broker Acxiom Corp. to supplement that information and help advertisers target its users more precisely."
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/apples-new-iphone-pitch-privacy-1411511136
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