The music app on my iPod (5 or 6 years old) is better than the new iterations, hardware and software combined.
My old iPhone3GS feels still a lot better than the latest ones and its software is better tuned.
The fingerprint sensor home button is much harder to press and not well tuned.
And so on.
I actually own and use a 3GS (upgrading to a new phone this fall) and know your talking total BS. Its OK, but come on, better than the latest ones. Complete tripe.
'Look at our new technology, it's amazing, you can now use the touch screen to scan your fingerprint, but when you want to go back to the home screen and exit an app, yeah, that's not quite as intuitive and satisfying anymore. But this is cool though—no one else is doing this.'
Meh.
Kind of like how the Mute/ Rotation Lock toggle switch disappeared from the iPad Air 2. "'Turn on screen, swipe up, tap icon' is easier than 'toggle switch'".
With Force Touch, the home button can be made redundant. A light press on the display could be a tap, a firmer press might bring up the app switcher, and a hard press could take you home.
Not sure this is workable for Home button. I can imagine how unskilled people would be messed up with it. Triggering Siri instead of other action or otherwise. Apple has to be very wise not to screw interface and user experience.
Regular on screen button is different story.
For Home button you have already light tap - one hand access, long tap - touch id, press - home, long press - Siri.
Will Force Touch on the iPhone have just two states (soft, hard), or will it detect an analog RANGE of force?
The Watch and new MBP have two states, so I'm guessing the iPhone will support only two states too. But a full range would open up large possible new use-cases. One (arbitrary) example would be steering a car in an iOS game: depending on how forcefully you press your left or right thumb, the car will turn less or more.
It would have a range of force so it can be used for drawing apps and games. One advantage with it being used for a home button action is that it can animate the transition the harder you press to allow you to cancel the action so no more accidental home button presses. Given that they'll allow it for apps, the home button action would likely be placed offscreen. They can print a rounded square on the lower bezel so people know it's the home button but then there's the issue of where the fingerprint sensor goes.
Jony Ive said that with the Watch waking up when turning it, having to manually unlock the iPhone was an old way to do it. There was a rumor about having the fingerprint sensor larger and able to do multiple fingers at once. Perhaps they intended to make the whole display covered in sapphire and allow fingerprint reading anywhere. This would unlock and activate the phone more quickly. It might be more susceptible to accidental unlocking but you wouldn't likely hold the phone by squeezing the glass.
The metal ring round the fingerprint sensor activates the scanner though:
"Cover the Home button completely. Don't tap too quickly, don't press down hard, and don't move your finger while Touch ID is scanning. Make sure that your finger touches the metal ring around the Home button."
They can still just make it solid-state rather than a physical button like they did with the trackpads. So either a metal circle or rounded square shape in the lower bezel with no moving button. As mentioned above, the pressure can do different things like the Force Touch trackpad and it can give some haptic feedback. It can also be used for swipe actions - it wouldn't need to be indented. Swipe down over the button could bring down the notifications to save reaching for it on the larger displays. The metal could be arched upwards from the surface with the interior and exterior fixed at the same height. Multiple presses on the home button isn't always very reliable but a press then feedback, harder 2nd feedback etc would be easier to do consistently.
That is not true at all. If you are referring to going through a border (like the Canada-US border) then it is true that they can force you to unlock your iPhone via a finger print tap and they (the US border guards at least) can NOT however force you to give them your password (5th amendment rights)... however, there is one easy solution for this - simply turn your phone off just before going through any border crossing... your iPhone ALWAYS requires a password after a restart - problem solved.
As for a police officer forcing you - they can't without proper warrants... however, password or Touch ID, neither will help you against the court order and an contempt of court charge if you fail to comply.
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I agree I think the person does not realize how our legal system works in the US. You are not required to incriminate yourself with you own words, but courts can compel you to hand over information such as what is on yourcell phone. No different than a court order DNA test to determine if you were the one who committed a crime. Grant it, the court has to have some level of evidence you were in fact the one responsible before they grand an order to comply. As you pointed out you can choose not to comply but most likely you will be spending a long time in jail until you do so.
With that said due process only apply with police and legal system, once you are interacting with an US or foreign agency due process is out the window. US board guards are not police so not subject to illegal search and sezure laws. They can collect evidence how they see fit and force you to turn things over and then turn it over to the proper authorities.
Whether you have a passcode or touch ID does not really matter, even if you use PPG to encryp everything you do it will not protect you as you may thing. It only works for criminals since contempt of court is the least of their worries.
However, this issue seems to be gain ground I heard more and more about people thinking their rights are some how more limited with Touch ID, that the police can somehow make you touch the ID and that is more legal then them asking you to provide a pass code. In both cases you have a legal right to refuse. Just like you have legal right to refuse a search of your car. Police still force people to all the search and most time it get tossed in court due to lack of due process.
I actually own and use a 3GS (upgrading to a new phone this fall) and know your talking total BS. Its OK, but come on, better than the latest ones. Complete tripe.
No it isn't, feel better isn't the same as better. Better tuned software isn't the same as better.
What is interesting about how Apple is currently using Force Touch is it is similar to how Apple uses the long press gesture. <span style="line-height:1.4em;">The long press gesture displays contextual menus. </span>
<span style="line-height:1.4em;">iPhone/iPad/iPod touch owners can use the long press gesture to to select all, copy, paste and/or delete information. </span>
<span style="line-height:1.4em;">Because of the existence of the long press gesture, I am thinking Force Touch will provide "something more" than Apple has presented and others have guessed at so far.</span>
This is exactly what I've been thinking as well - whether it will be implemented as some sort of enhanced long press function. I have a feeling it's going to be a lot more game changing over time than we suspect.
Will Force Touch on the iPhone have just two states (soft, hard), or will it detect an analog RANGE of force?
The Watch and new MBP have two states, so I'm guessing the iPhone will support only two states too. But a full range would open up large possible new use-cases. One (arbitrary) example would be steering a car in an iOS game: depending on how forcefully you press your left or right thumb, the car will turn less or more.
The iPhone implementation is different, where I've read the surface area of finger pressing on the screen will be used to determine the amount of pressure being used. I don't believe it's currently possible to have an infinite pressure depth sensitivity with a screen that is fixed and rigid.
eightzero said elimination of the home button would be a great technological innovation. I agree but I would take it a step further. I would like to see Apple eliminate all buttons and "holes" on all new iPhones. Make Samsung cram their Active series products. Apple should make a product that is water(/life)proof by design from the ground up. Not release a secondary product like their inferior rival Samsung.
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New is not always better.
The music app on my iPod (5 or 6 years old) is better than the new iterations, hardware and software combined.
My old iPhone3GS feels still a lot better than the latest ones and its software is better tuned.
The fingerprint sensor home button is much harder to press and not well tuned.
And so on.
I actually own and use a 3GS (upgrading to a new phone this fall) and know your talking total BS. Its OK, but come on, better than the latest ones. Complete tripe.
'Look at our new technology, it's amazing, you can now use the touch screen to scan your fingerprint, but when you want to go back to the home screen and exit an app, yeah, that's not quite as intuitive and satisfying anymore. But this is cool though—no one else is doing this.'
Meh.
Kind of like how the Mute/ Rotation Lock toggle switch disappeared from the iPad Air 2. "'Turn on screen, swipe up, tap icon' is easier than 'toggle switch'".
Not sure this is workable for Home button. I can imagine how unskilled people would be messed up with it. Triggering Siri instead of other action or otherwise. Apple has to be very wise not to screw interface and user experience.
Regular on screen button is different story.
For Home button you have already light tap - one hand access, long tap - touch id, press - home, long press - Siri.
It would have a range of force so it can be used for drawing apps and games. One advantage with it being used for a home button action is that it can animate the transition the harder you press to allow you to cancel the action so no more accidental home button presses. Given that they'll allow it for apps, the home button action would likely be placed offscreen. They can print a rounded square on the lower bezel so people know it's the home button but then there's the issue of where the fingerprint sensor goes.
Jony Ive said that with the Watch waking up when turning it, having to manually unlock the iPhone was an old way to do it. There was a rumor about having the fingerprint sensor larger and able to do multiple fingers at once. Perhaps they intended to make the whole display covered in sapphire and allow fingerprint reading anywhere. This would unlock and activate the phone more quickly. It might be more susceptible to accidental unlocking but you wouldn't likely hold the phone by squeezing the glass.
The metal ring round the fingerprint sensor activates the scanner though:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201371
"Cover the Home button completely. Don't tap too quickly, don't press down hard, and don't move your finger while Touch ID is scanning. Make sure that your finger touches the metal ring around the Home button."
They can still just make it solid-state rather than a physical button like they did with the trackpads. So either a metal circle or rounded square shape in the lower bezel with no moving button. As mentioned above, the pressure can do different things like the Force Touch trackpad and it can give some haptic feedback. It can also be used for swipe actions - it wouldn't need to be indented. Swipe down over the button could bring down the notifications to save reaching for it on the larger displays. The metal could be arched upwards from the surface with the interior and exterior fixed at the same height. Multiple presses on the home button isn't always very reliable but a press then feedback, harder 2nd feedback etc would be easier to do consistently.
- Force Touch
- 2 GB of RAM
- 32 GB, 64 GB and 128 GB
- better cameras (primary and secondary)
That's it.
I agree I think the person does not realize how our legal system works in the US. You are not required to incriminate yourself with you own words, but courts can compel you to hand over information such as what is on yourcell phone. No different than a court order DNA test to determine if you were the one who committed a crime. Grant it, the court has to have some level of evidence you were in fact the one responsible before they grand an order to comply. As you pointed out you can choose not to comply but most likely you will be spending a long time in jail until you do so.
With that said due process only apply with police and legal system, once you are interacting with an US or foreign agency due process is out the window. US board guards are not police so not subject to illegal search and sezure laws. They can collect evidence how they see fit and force you to turn things over and then turn it over to the proper authorities.
Whether you have a passcode or touch ID does not really matter, even if you use PPG to encryp everything you do it will not protect you as you may thing. It only works for criminals since contempt of court is the least of their worries.
However, this issue seems to be gain ground I heard more and more about people thinking their rights are some how more limited with Touch ID, that the police can somehow make you touch the ID and that is more legal then them asking you to provide a pass code. In both cases you have a legal right to refuse. Just like you have legal right to refuse a search of your car. Police still force people to all the search and most time it get tossed in court due to lack of due process.
No it isn't, feel better isn't the same as better. Better tuned software isn't the same as better.
This is exactly what I've been thinking as well - whether it will be implemented as some sort of enhanced long press function. I have a feeling it's going to be a lot more game changing over time than we suspect.
The iPhone implementation is different, where I've read the surface area of finger pressing on the screen will be used to determine the amount of pressure being used. I don't believe it's currently possible to have an infinite pressure depth sensitivity with a screen that is fixed and rigid.