Microsoft debuts early, open-sourced Windows Bridge for iOS

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  • Reply 21 of 25
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    Bulk of iOS apps are written in C/C++/ObjC/ObjC++. The switch to Swift won't happen until Swift 2.0 or 3.0 meets the hype.

    Having held conversations with some of the longest ObjC experts they aren't that impressed yet.

    the old is often unimpressed with the new. that doesn't matter.

    only a fool would build new code with the legacy language, now. that's just the way it is.
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  • Reply 22 of 25
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    foggyhill wrote: »
    Funny, just upgraded to 10 (yesterday) and I'm pretty underwhelmed; MS reinvented the wheel if you ask me... Looks a lot like 7, with 8.1 underneath the hood. Nothing to see here.

    Totally agree. Lipstick on a pig. In fact 8.1 only improved over 8 when they made it simpler to escape the new interface back to the 7 hiding underneath. Same applies to MS OS 9 errr... sorry I mean let's pretend it's OS X for PCs ... MS OS 10.
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  • Reply 23 of 25
    thepixeldocthepixeldoc Posts: 2,257member
    A question ... these "tens of millions of PCs" out there are running what CPUs and what OS by enlarge do you think? What percentage of these "tens of millions of PCs" are in fact less powerful than the iPhone in your pocket? Remember those same data surveys touting the "tens of millions of PCs" choose to exclude iOS devices as even being 'computers'!

    Microsoft is in a hole and digging. I say, send them more shovels.

    An interesting post that tells the tale of my entire last week.

    3 small businesses with 20-70 employees each; 2 of which are wholly owned franchises.

    All running not less than 1 of their major inventory, procurement, or accounting packages in....? MS-DOS! On assorted hardware no newer than 2008 and many systems dating back to early '00's.

    Privately: every single owner and family using multiple, current iOS and OSX devices.

    The contrast watching them manipulate an MS-DOS mask with F-keys on an old IBM compatible keyboard 3x the size of an iPad and just about as heavy... and then suggesting that they don't need to literally "punch" their iPhones that way... well?! Speechless really.

    In my experience over the years and even over the last few years, I haven't installed so much as one new Windows PC or laptop. I attempted almost 2 years ago to keep a Windows-centric Apple-hater client happy by suggesting a Windows Nokia 925 and setting it up. It didn't meet his expectations (which I detailed in another thread here long ago)... but the camera was nice.

    That particular "I WILL NEVER ever buy any of that Apple rip-off trash" client, has been an enthusiastic Apple fan now for over a year and has an iPhone, iPad, and loaded MBP that he runs most of his business with... and now hates Windows with a passion, refusing to even touch it unless noone else is around. He now is often heard to actually blame Microsoft for holding business back from him and others being more successful than they are.

    The times and persuasions... they are a changin'...:smokey:
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  • Reply 24 of 25

    Well, at least 10 million PCs out there are powerful enough to install Windows 10 on day one of its release.  

     

    Those are likely to be personal users' computers, not things like enterprise servers which are far greater in number and far more powerful.  Simply because enterprise users are slow to upgrade doesn't mean their hardware couldn't do it...it's because these machines are part of an infrastructure.  Taking them offline just for an OS upgrade is silly and often impossible, but not because the hardware couldn't do the work.  Windows and Linux rule the enterprise server space and have loads of really powerful hardware to back it up, and MS is smart to capitalize on their stack by being more open while still preserving their own identity.  Like it or not, proprietary vendors historically wind up relegated to irrelevance.  Look at all the proprietary Unix vendors that are gone now, who now sell systems based on Windows or Linux.  Want proof? Go check out AWS and tell me how many varieties of OS X server you see available in EC2: ZERO.

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