I own Parallels Desktop from I think version 4 or 5 to version 7 and find it crappy and cheap to offer an upgrade to only the last two versions of their product....
sorry but I don't trust Parallels.
I find people saying this funny. You don't trust Parallels because they officially don't support these versions and yet you WANT to upgrade from them?
Parallels said they wouldn't upgrade you from 7 way back in 10 and they gave you time to upgrade to at least 9 and get a free upgrade to 10 but they're not to be trusted?
I'm sorry but I can't trust your opinion based on your lack of research.
Thats correct, VMWare is a superior product from both support and stability standpoint.
I disagree. Stability wise they are pretty much the same but where stability issues arise it's because Parallels is doing things VMWare isn't even close to doing. We'll see when Fusion gets released what they come up with but you also have to remember that Parallels is a Mac product aimed at Mac users whereas VMWare is a Windows product ported to the Mac. They have different reasons for implementing the features they do.
I'm not saying VMWare is bad, I think it is a fantastic product but I just prefer Parallels for numerous reasons.
BTW, Fusion was upgraded to version 7 on September 3, 2014 and the last update was version 7.1.2 on June 15, 2015, which was an OpenSSL security patch. Source (Just an observation, but righteousness and indignation come off a lot better when you have your facts straight.)
Which doesn't answer my original question, "Are there still ads in the newest version of Parallels?"
Windows 10 runs perfectly fine on 10 but yes, Coherence has issues with 10 due to the way Microsoft draws things in Windows 10. I couldn't remember why I kept running my VM in Fullscreen mode until I went back to Coherence and kept seeing the Start menu popping up in a new screen. I had been using Windows 10 since the day the Developer Preview came out. Parallels 10 had issues running it but Parallels kept updating 10 to get it running and it got smoother and smoother.
Parallels 11 from the small play I had last night works wonders. I'm not needing Cortana and in fact it doesn't work in New Zealand yet - Siri works well - so that's not an issue for me. I use Windows daily in Parallels for tasks at work so I'll be giving it a good run over the next few days to see how it performs.
I went for the yearly subscription because then I get Parallels Access as well for free. I purchase upgrades yearly anyway so it just seemed the right option.
yes, there is no such thing as a free lunch, but Apple does not charge money for OS updates anymore.
Apple also doesn't make money off software because they make money off hardware and services.
You're saying to a software company that they should not be allowed to make money after their first sale? I bet you'd never accept that proposal if it was offered to you so why should Parallels?
Apple also doesn't make money off software because they make money off hardware and services.
You're saying to a software company that they should not be allowed to make money after their first sale? I bet you'd never accept that proposal if it was offered to you so why should Parallels?
no.
I'm saying apple has ceased charging outright for their operating system.
Another rip Off from parallels. While every new OS from apple and now even Microsoft is free, parallels charges 50 for it. Every year. And at least every other year one has to shell out This to ensure compatibility with newer os. Imagine office 2013 wouldn't work on Windows 10! And one would have to buy a new Office for the "free" is upgrade.
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Where did you get the idea that new OS's from Apple are free? When you buy a Mac, you're not just paying for a computer with a blank SSD.
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please don't be obtuse.
yes, there is no such thing as a free lunch, but Apple does not charge money for OS updates anymore.
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no.
I'm saying apple has ceased charging outright for their operating system.
In the context of the conversation it SEEMS like you are.
The original poster can't make a comparison to Apple not charging for OS updates but Parallels charges $50 for their updates simply because Apple and Parallels are two different companies operating two different ways.
Why does no one lambast FileMaker for charging for updates to their products? Why is it okay for FileMaker to charge for updates that introduce new features and squashes a few bugs but heaven forbid Parallels does it for their product?
Why is Parallels being held out as a shining beacon for all that is wrong about companies who make money in order to pay for their employees so that they and their families can survive in this world?
Why does no one complain about VMWare charging for their updates? Each major release of VMWare has been a paid upgrade. But apparently VMWare charging for their updates is better than Parallels charging for their updates.
WARNING BEFORE UPGRADING OR BUYING. In the past, Parallels would allow a limited number of activations on one license, such that you could install it on your desktop and laptop. They have changed that policy with Parallels 11, so that you only get one computer activation per license. So if you have multiple computers, you might want to hold off as long as possible before upgrading unless you want to purchase a license for each machine. I have heard that VMware allows three machines per license, so you might want to look at that before purchasing Parallels.
WARNING BEFORE UPGRADING OR BUYING. In the past, Parallels would allow a limited number of activations on one license, such that you could install it on your desktop and laptop. They have changed that policy with Parallels 11, so that you only get one computer activation per license. So if you have multiple computers, you might want to hold off as long as possible before upgrading unless you want to purchase a license for each machine. I have heard that VMware allows three machines per license, so you might want to look at that before purchasing Parallels.
Parallels' official policy was never to allow multiple uses per license. I have been forking over two (and a couple of times, three) license upgrades every year. This past year I decided that enough was enough and paid a single time for VMWare (because, as you mentioned, they allow three machines per license). It's been an awful experience. VMWare is noticeably slower than Parallels, and I do not like the way it handles multiple displays (Parallels allows you to switch full screen mode on each display individually, while with Fusion when I click a window inside my VM on one monitor, the other display will switch to the VM as well. It's very annoying, and the behavior is not configurable). Fusion also does not seem to handle memory nearly as well. If I leave my VM running over the weekend, when I come back to my machine on Monday, my Mac is practically unresponsive. I found a hidden setting configured via a Terminal command that helped quite a bit, but it's not perfect and not something most users would find. Also suspend and resume takes at least three times as long to perform in Fusion as it does in Parallels so every night I have to shut down my guest OS, where with Parallels I have always suspended my VMs so I can return to where I left off the next day. It just takes too long with Fusion. It makes no sense when my boot drive and my VMs all exist on separate internal SSDs and should be really fast.
I'm not going to pay to upgrade Fusion to v8. I'll be switching back to Parallels shortly.
I guess the real solution is to just stop using Windows apps. Almost everything I use now comes on OS X, and it was inexpensive enough just to keep using them under Parallels and not bother converting. The solution is to stop using Windows apps, unless you have some unique critical need that is only available on Windows, and get rid of both Parallels and VMware.
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What's next, a blow-up doll version of Cortana?
MS is milking the shit out of Cortana feature. It supposed to mean something for those who played Halo.
https://forum.parallels.com/threads/windows-10-bootcamp-vm-cant-validate.328996/
I own Parallels Desktop from I think version 4 or 5 to version 7 and find it crappy and cheap to offer an upgrade to only the last two versions of their product....
I find people saying this funny. You don't trust Parallels because they officially don't support these versions and yet you WANT to upgrade from them?
Parallels said they wouldn't upgrade you from 7 way back in 10 and they gave you time to upgrade to at least 9 and get a free upgrade to 10 but they're not to be trusted?
I'm sorry but I can't trust your opinion based on your lack of research.
Thats correct, VMWare is a superior product from both support and stability standpoint.
I disagree. Stability wise they are pretty much the same but where stability issues arise it's because Parallels is doing things VMWare isn't even close to doing. We'll see when Fusion gets released what they come up with but you also have to remember that Parallels is a Mac product aimed at Mac users whereas VMWare is a Windows product ported to the Mac. They have different reasons for implementing the features they do.
I'm not saying VMWare is bad, I think it is a fantastic product but I just prefer Parallels for numerous reasons.
I have yet to see any ads.
I have to agree but I never really saw many ads in Parallels 10 either.
I did get a few e-mails but if you turn off being told about specials and deals then you don't get them. Well, I didn't at least.
Both Fusion/Parallels will require a paid update for coherence/unity mode with Windows 10: Year-old Parallels and VMware software won’t be updated for Windows 10 | Ars Technica
BTW, Fusion was upgraded to version 7 on September 3, 2014 and the last update was version 7.1.2 on June 15, 2015, which was an OpenSSL security patch. Source (Just an observation, but righteousness and indignation come off a lot better when you have your facts straight.)
Which doesn't answer my original question, "Are there still ads in the newest version of Parallels?"
Windows 10 runs perfectly fine on 10 but yes, Coherence has issues with 10 due to the way Microsoft draws things in Windows 10. I couldn't remember why I kept running my VM in Fullscreen mode until I went back to Coherence and kept seeing the Start menu popping up in a new screen. I had been using Windows 10 since the day the Developer Preview came out. Parallels 10 had issues running it but Parallels kept updating 10 to get it running and it got smoother and smoother.
Parallels 11 from the small play I had last night works wonders. I'm not needing Cortana and in fact it doesn't work in New Zealand yet - Siri works well - so that's not an issue for me. I use Windows daily in Parallels for tasks at work so I'll be giving it a good run over the next few days to see how it performs.
I went for the yearly subscription because then I get Parallels Access as well for free. I purchase upgrades yearly anyway so it just seemed the right option.
please don't be obtuse.
yes, there is no such thing as a free lunch, but Apple does not charge money for OS updates anymore.
Apple also doesn't make money off software because they make money off hardware and services.
You're saying to a software company that they should not be allowed to make money after their first sale? I bet you'd never accept that proposal if it was offered to you so why should Parallels?
no.
I'm saying apple has ceased charging outright for their operating system.
Another rip Off from parallels. While every new OS from apple and now even Microsoft is free, parallels charges 50 for it. Every year. And at least every other year one has to shell out This to ensure compatibility with newer os. Imagine office 2013 wouldn't work on Windows 10! And one would have to buy a new Office for the "free" is upgrade.
Where did you get the idea that new OS's from Apple are free? When you buy a Mac, you're not just paying for a computer with a blank SSD.
please don't be obtuse.
yes, there is no such thing as a free lunch, but Apple does not charge money for OS updates anymore.
no.
I'm saying apple has ceased charging outright for their operating system.
In the context of the conversation it SEEMS like you are.
The original poster can't make a comparison to Apple not charging for OS updates but Parallels charges $50 for their updates simply because Apple and Parallels are two different companies operating two different ways.
Why does no one lambast FileMaker for charging for updates to their products? Why is it okay for FileMaker to charge for updates that introduce new features and squashes a few bugs but heaven forbid Parallels does it for their product?
Why is Parallels being held out as a shining beacon for all that is wrong about companies who make money in order to pay for their employees so that they and their families can survive in this world?
Why does no one complain about VMWare charging for their updates? Each major release of VMWare has been a paid upgrade. But apparently VMWare charging for their updates is better than Parallels charging for their updates.
Yes, it does. The price OS X updates is covered by the price of your new Mac.
WARNING BEFORE UPGRADING OR BUYING. In the past, Parallels would allow a limited number of activations on one license, such that you could install it on your desktop and laptop. They have changed that policy with Parallels 11, so that you only get one computer activation per license. So if you have multiple computers, you might want to hold off as long as possible before upgrading unless you want to purchase a license for each machine. I have heard that VMware allows three machines per license, so you might want to look at that before purchasing Parallels.
WARNING BEFORE UPGRADING OR BUYING. In the past, Parallels would allow a limited number of activations on one license, such that you could install it on your desktop and laptop. They have changed that policy with Parallels 11, so that you only get one computer activation per license. So if you have multiple computers, you might want to hold off as long as possible before upgrading unless you want to purchase a license for each machine. I have heard that VMware allows three machines per license, so you might want to look at that before purchasing Parallels.
Parallels' official policy was never to allow multiple uses per license. I have been forking over two (and a couple of times, three) license upgrades every year. This past year I decided that enough was enough and paid a single time for VMWare (because, as you mentioned, they allow three machines per license). It's been an awful experience. VMWare is noticeably slower than Parallels, and I do not like the way it handles multiple displays (Parallels allows you to switch full screen mode on each display individually, while with Fusion when I click a window inside my VM on one monitor, the other display will switch to the VM as well. It's very annoying, and the behavior is not configurable). Fusion also does not seem to handle memory nearly as well. If I leave my VM running over the weekend, when I come back to my machine on Monday, my Mac is practically unresponsive. I found a hidden setting configured via a Terminal command that helped quite a bit, but it's not perfect and not something most users would find. Also suspend and resume takes at least three times as long to perform in Fusion as it does in Parallels so every night I have to shut down my guest OS, where with Parallels I have always suspended my VMs so I can return to where I left off the next day. It just takes too long with Fusion. It makes no sense when my boot drive and my VMs all exist on separate internal SSDs and should be really fast.
I'm not going to pay to upgrade Fusion to v8. I'll be switching back to Parallels shortly.
I guess the real solution is to just stop using Windows apps. Almost everything I use now comes on OS X, and it was inexpensive enough just to keep using them under Parallels and not bother converting. The solution is to stop using Windows apps, unless you have some unique critical need that is only available on Windows, and get rid of both Parallels and VMware.