LG says that the new luxury smartwatch is "designed with a specific wearer in mind," though that wearer is neither named nor described.
At least they know that only one person is going to buy this thing, even if they don't yet know who that person is.
You beat me to it on both points!!
This watch is neither outstanding in style nor offering much beyond a time piece. I predict by the time LG gets desperate in dumping this turkey, they will be in plastic shells and swinging off pegboard hooks in Walmart.
The article is vague, using words like "suggests" and doesn't connected how this process, even if used, would either circumvent or not meet the 18k testing standard.
Are you reading the same article as I did? They obviously aren't circumventing anything as the author explains. He tells you how karats are determined and it's not as tho Kitco doesn't know a thing or two about gold.
If you read the article I linked it explains why Apple can reduce the gold content compared to others but still claim 18K.
The article is vague, using words like "suggests" and doesn't connect how this process, even if used, would either circumvent or conversely not meet the 18k testing standard.
Apple aiming this product at a market that wouldn't allow it to be other then 18K gold. The article may be vague because Apple isn't completely forthcoming in how they do what they do their patented metal magic.
Are you reading the same article as I did? They obviously aren't circumventing anything as the author explains. He tells you how karats are determined and it's not as tho Kitco doesn't know a thing or two about gold.
If the Watch is tested by independent labs for meeting the 18k standard, does it pass?
I'm not trying to defend Apples pricing for Editiion either. It's just that as the standards are seemingly delineated, there are different ways to get to legitimate 18k solid gold, and Apple has met this standard. If they haven't, they will be vilified.
Gold plated ? gold.
A gold-plated turd is still a turd.
This turd will lose its luster quickly with that soft gold coating... I keep hearing a smarmy late night announcer saying "gold-tone finish" over and over...
"You can tell nothing but the finest materials are used by the green build-up on your wrist..."
*no reptiles were harmed in making the simulated faux alligator-hide watch band.
If the Watch is tested by independent labs for meeting the 18k standard, does it pass?
I'm not trying to defend Apples pricing for Editiion either. It's just that as the standards are seemingly delineated, there are different ways to get to legitimate 18k solid gold, and Apple has met this standard.
What did Kapco say? They're the experts.
Spoiler:
of course it would pass muster just as Kapco suggested. You and probably others simply misunderstand how karat weight is determined and thus how much gold there is in the Special Edition.
I was particularly struck by the tab that projects into the wearer's wrist. Like a snow-tire stud, it may keep the watch from spinning around on your wrist... yeah, that's what it's for...traction!
of course it would pass muster just as Kapco suggested. You and probably others simply misunderstand how karat weight is determined and thus how much gold there is in the Special Edition.
So its legitimately 18k? Are we in agreement?
Has the rest of the watchmaking industry exploded in anger at some subversion of the standard? Or do you think many of them invest in advanced metallurgy techniques as well to maximize the alloy process, all while still adhering to the industry standard?
This watch is neither outstanding in style nor offering much beyond a time piece. I predict by the time LG gets desperate in dumping this turkey, they will be in plastic shells and swinging off pegboard hooks in Walmart.
It's a smart watch, just like Apple Watch. It has the same water resistance rating and has an always-on display with similar battery life. It also has a simpler UI. Hardly the "turkey" that so many other smart watches are. It's also $350 for stainless steel/leather.
Here is what is going to happen in the wearable space, the exact same thing that happen in the tablet space. Apple will sell the majority of smart watches not doubt about it, however, all these other companies will sell a few android wear watches and the stupid analysis was pull numbers out of nowhere and claim android wear is winning in spite of no ever being seen wearing an android wear watch.
Another instance that shows how Non-Apple hardware aims at the low-prices because they know their software isn't up to par to command 10K price tag, even though it's 23K gold as opposed to 18K gold that Apple Watches come in.
The Apple Watch software doesn't command a 10K or more price tag either. It's the same software in all versions. It's a status product. That's it.
Mr. Ive all but confirmed it some months back. He was quoted in a news article as saying "the molecules in Apple gold are closer together, making it twice as hard as standard gold." Gold plus ceramics, described in Apple's patent, would be the takeaway.
There were rumors Apple was using some new fangled process based on a patent application but that was never confirmed. And based on the fact that people like John Gruber said the gold watch is heavier than the stainless steel watch I'm inclined to believe Apple isn't using some new process that involves less gold.
There were rumors Apple was using some new fangled process based on a patent application but that was never confirmed. And based on the fact that people like John Gruber said the gold watch is heavier than the stainless steel watch I'm inclined to believe Apple isn't using some new process that involves less gold.
How heavy would gold and ceramics be compared to stainless steel? Obviously Apple is using a different process to arrive at 18K than others since theirs is "twice as hard as standard". Unless of course Mr Ive lied about it.
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You beat me to it on both points!!
This watch is neither outstanding in style nor offering much beyond a time piece. I predict by the time LG gets desperate in dumping this turkey, they will be in plastic shells and swinging off pegboard hooks in Walmart.
Gold plated ? gold.
A gold-plated turd is still a turd.
Apple aiming this product at a market that wouldn't allow it to be other then 18K gold. The article may be vague because Apple isn't completely forthcoming in how they do what they do their patented metal magic.
If the Watch is tested by independent labs for meeting the 18k standard, does it pass?
I'm not trying to defend Apples pricing for Editiion either. It's just that as the standards are seemingly delineated, there are different ways to get to legitimate 18k solid gold, and Apple has met this standard. If they haven't, they will be vilified.
That clasp looks way bulky.
This turd will lose its luster quickly with that soft gold coating... I keep hearing a smarmy late night announcer saying "gold-tone finish" over and over...
"You can tell nothing but the finest materials are used by the green build-up on your wrist..."
*no reptiles were harmed in making the simulated faux alligator-hide watch band.
I was particularly struck by the tab that projects into the wearer's wrist. Like a snow-tire stud, it may keep the watch from spinning around on your wrist... yeah, that's what it's for...traction!
So its legitimately 18k? Are we in agreement?
Has the rest of the watchmaking industry exploded in anger at some subversion of the standard? Or do you think many of them invest in advanced metallurgy techniques as well to maximize the alloy process, all while still adhering to the industry standard?
It's a smart watch, just like Apple Watch. It has the same water resistance rating and has an always-on display with similar battery life. It also has a simpler UI. Hardly the "turkey" that so many other smart watches are. It's also $350 for stainless steel/leather.
It's serviceable, if not generic. But agree the gold looks too yellow at least in the photo, the inside of the clasp looks like a torture device.
The software and ecosystem is not worth debating however.
Total nonsense. There's no mystery about the weight of the case. Apple reports it as 1.9-2.4oz (http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-watch/apple-watch-edition/38mm-18-karat-rose-gold-case-white-sport-band?product=MJ8P2LL/A&step=detail). That puts the pure gold content at 1.4-1.8oz. The author of that article is clearly pulling 0.5oz out of his ass.
Here is what is going to happen in the wearable space, the exact same thing that happen in the tablet space. Apple will sell the majority of smart watches not doubt about it, however, all these other companies will sell a few android wear watches and the stupid analysis was pull numbers out of nowhere and claim android wear is winning in spite of no ever being seen wearing an android wear watch.
The Apple Watch software doesn't command a 10K or more price tag either. It's the same software in all versions. It's a status product. That's it.
Just think...our little maker of cheap Korean microwave ovens and TV+VCR combos has grown up!
I don't care what Ive said. Apple's website says the 38mm gold watch is 54g for the rose gold ot 55g for the yellow gold. That's 1.9 ounces.
http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-watch/apple-watch-edition/38mm-18-karat-rose-gold-case-white-sport-band?product=MJ8P2LL/A&step=detail
There were rumors Apple was using some new fangled process based on a patent application but that was never confirmed. And based on the fact that people like John Gruber said the gold watch is heavier than the stainless steel watch I'm inclined to believe Apple isn't using some new process that involves less gold.
No one disputes how much the case weighs. That's easy to confirm. Apple doesn't say the extra weight is all pure gold do they?