Apple currently tells me to get lost when I try to get it checked, pawning the issue off onto the iOS 9 beta, ignoring the fact this was an issue under 8 as well even after a reset and restore. I don't use GPS at all, or movies. Podcasts, browsing, messaging, 99% of which is on wifi. A few minutes of BT a week for AirDrop, it stays off the rest of the time.
When I finally get the GM of 9 (because screw you public beta users!) I'll take it into the Apple Store again and get them to recheck it, though I'm sure some other boogaloo will come up and I'll end up replacing it myself.
if you use your iPhone in a weak ass WiFi or cell signal area, your device battery will cut short because it drains more to seek for signal. Get it. Not all uses are the same.
The 1810mah unit in my 6 is already inadequate. This is the wrong way.
The wrong way to think about it is in terms of the battery capacity, or, worse, the battery's physical volume, which someone tried to argue a few days ago was the most important metric for a battery. The right way is in regards to how long the battery lasts for your needs on a single charge. You want more Watt hours and a larger volume battery, but that's foolish over wanting the battery to simply last long enough to do what you need it to do in a given day without worry. Anything short of the actual usability, which includes the rest of the device's functionality, is the definition of the wrong way.
The iPhone 6 does have good battery life, but not great, the 6S looks like a repeat of the S6 where battery is not the strong point. To note a number of 4.7 inch phones are 2200 mah batteries. I guess I will stick to the 6S+ unless battery shrinks on it.
if you use your iPhone in a weak ass WiFi or cell signal area, your device battery will cut short because it drains more to seek for signal. Get it. Not all uses are the same.
Exactly! I worked at a warehouse a few years back and I got no signal whatsoever in there. 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, my phone said "No Service" and it KILLED the battery. I walked in at 8 am with a fully charged battery and left with 20% at 5 pm. And I barely used it except for the little bit of web surfing and a few calls during my lunch hour.
Apple currently tells me to get lost when I try to get it checked, pawning the issue off onto the iOS 9 beta, ignoring the fact this was an issue under 8 as well even after a reset and restore. I don't use GPS at all, or movies. Podcasts, browsing, messaging, 99% of which is on wifi. A few minutes of BT a week for AirDrop, it stays off the rest of the time.
When I finally get the GM of 9 (because screw you public beta users!) I'll take it into the Apple Store again and get them to recheck it, though I'm sure some other boogaloo will come up and I'll end up replacing it myself.
1) I highly doubt anyone has told you to get lost.
2) If you're running a beta then you have to accept that you can't get service for SW until such time as you're no longer running a beta. If you are sure you have a HW issue they will look at it. I would test your battery to see if it's holding a good enough charge.
In a time long ago, I thought it was jailbreaking that caused the issues, but ever since I moved to the iPhone 5s and then 6 plus, I didn't jailbreak.
Some of my iPhones have been factory reset and set up from scratch, but with many apps installed iOS just can't hack it:
Suddenly the phone gets way hot, and one can almost watch the battery meter go down because somethings spin out of control (but because users are locked out, no way of telling what).
I have zombie apps: I delete them, after power cycle or reset they are back, other apps are half installed and can not be deleted not be reinstalled.
Backups can't be selectively restored (e.g. restoring only SMS/iMessage, voice mail, app layout, or whatever. So if there's trouble it means restoring a full backup (restoring the things that cause the issues) or losing several years of messaging history.
I'm really excited about a device like the iPad Pro, but thinking of a Pro device with such issues and no way for power users to go in and fix and diagnose issues, it's a no-go, as much as I like the hardware.
These devices are just nowhere near as bugfree as they would have to be to be locked down to the degree they are.
iOS needs to open up like OS X, especially for a so called Pro device.
So yes, battery life can vary widely, depending what bugs some third party software may trigger in iOS.
If you take the phone out of the box and use it as delivered, battery life is great; but install say 750 apps, and then you can start witnessing iOS freak outs as you keep installing additional apps.
Try say 1234 apps, and tell me if your phone or iPad still behave as they should...
That's not an IOS problem, if you run crap apps and crap settings , well it's not IOS that is the issue.
Obviously, users experiences are going to vary depending upon how they use their phones and not everyone's experience is going to match your experience, so you really don't have to be so freaking obnoxious in your response. If I have a day where I've made/received several phone calls of decent length, I can run out of juice on my iPhone6 long before the end of the day. Not everyone spends their day at a desk where they can recharge their phone. And I keep Bluetooth off unless I'm in the car and keep the screen brightness at medium. I also turn off some other stuff to conserve battery life.
I'm in the camp that cares a lot less about thinness (which Apple seems as overly obsessed about as a teenage girl with anorexia) and a lot more about battery life. I would gladly buy a thicker iPhone that had a much longer battery life, especially since it's practically a requirement that one keep an iPhone in a case to keep it from getting destroyed if it's dropped and therefore, the benefits of the thinness disappear. (Or, keep it thin, but make it possible to switch out the battery, which actually wouldn't be difficult since the battery takes up the left side of the phone. All it needs is a door and for it to plug in instead of that cable.) Although my iPhone5 without a case miraculously survived a drop onto a concrete subway platform and then a second fall onto the tracks, it's amazing how many people I notice walking around with cracked screens.
When I saw the presentation, I wondered whether the taptic engine was going to take up room where the battery needed to go. I guess it did. That's fine...I have a long way to go on my contract anyway and this gives me a reason to wait for the next phone, which I hope will have a more powerful battery again.
I don't fracking get it. You do know that how long your phone lasts doesn't only depend on battery size, if you hitch a small engine to a huge gas tank, it will last a hell longer than if you put in a 12 cylinder enginer!
If they had not added any of the new services and kept the phone to A8 speed, battery life would have increased by 4-5h; well, I do care for having those news services and speed even if you don't.
I'm tired of this absurdity. Please think things through.
Apple currently tells me to get lost when I try to get it checked, pawning the issue off onto the iOS 9 beta, ignoring the fact this was an issue under 8 as well even after a reset and restore. I don't use GPS at all, or movies. Podcasts, browsing, messaging, 99% of which is on wifi. A few minutes of BT a week for AirDrop, it stays off the rest of the time.
When I finally get the GM of 9 (because screw you public beta users!) I'll take it into the Apple Store again and get them to recheck it, though I'm sure some other boogaloo will come up and I'll end up replacing it myself.
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The wrong way to think about it is in terms of the battery capacity, or, worse, the battery's physical volume, which someone tried to argue a few days ago was the most important metric for a battery. The right way is in regards to how long the battery lasts for your needs on a single charge. You want more Watt hours and a larger volume battery, but that's foolish over wanting the battery to simply last long enough to do what you need it to do in a given day without worry. Anything short of the actual usability, which includes the rest of the device's functionality, is the definition of the wrong way.
Exactly! I worked at a warehouse a few years back and I got no signal whatsoever in there. 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, my phone said "No Service" and it KILLED the battery. I walked in at 8 am with a fully charged battery and left with 20% at 5 pm. And I barely used it except for the little bit of web surfing and a few calls during my lunch hour.
1) I highly doubt anyone has told you to get lost.
2) If you're running a beta then you have to accept that you can't get service for SW until such time as you're no longer running a beta. If you are sure you have a HW issue they will look at it. I would test your battery to see if it's holding a good enough charge.
iOS unfortunately has serious issues
In a time long ago, I thought it was jailbreaking that caused the issues, but ever since I moved to the iPhone 5s and then 6 plus, I didn't jailbreak.
Some of my iPhones have been factory reset and set up from scratch, but with many apps installed iOS just can't hack it:
Suddenly the phone gets way hot, and one can almost watch the battery meter go down because somethings spin out of control (but because users are locked out, no way of telling what).
I have zombie apps: I delete them, after power cycle or reset they are back, other apps are half installed and can not be deleted not be reinstalled.
Backups can't be selectively restored (e.g. restoring only SMS/iMessage, voice mail, app layout, or whatever. So if there's trouble it means restoring a full backup (restoring the things that cause the issues) or losing several years of messaging history.
I'm really excited about a device like the iPad Pro, but thinking of a Pro device with such issues and no way for power users to go in and fix and diagnose issues, it's a no-go, as much as I like the hardware.
These devices are just nowhere near as bugfree as they would have to be to be locked down to the degree they are.
iOS needs to open up like OS X, especially for a so called Pro device.
So yes, battery life can vary widely, depending what bugs some third party software may trigger in iOS.
If you take the phone out of the box and use it as delivered, battery life is great; but install say 750 apps, and then you can start witnessing iOS freak outs as you keep installing additional apps.
Try say 1234 apps, and tell me if your phone or iPad still behave as they should...
That's not an IOS problem, if you run crap apps and crap settings , well it's not IOS that is the issue.
Obviously, users experiences are going to vary depending upon how they use their phones and not everyone's experience is going to match your experience, so you really don't have to be so freaking obnoxious in your response. If I have a day where I've made/received several phone calls of decent length, I can run out of juice on my iPhone6 long before the end of the day. Not everyone spends their day at a desk where they can recharge their phone. And I keep Bluetooth off unless I'm in the car and keep the screen brightness at medium. I also turn off some other stuff to conserve battery life.
I'm in the camp that cares a lot less about thinness (which Apple seems as overly obsessed about as a teenage girl with anorexia) and a lot more about battery life. I would gladly buy a thicker iPhone that had a much longer battery life, especially since it's practically a requirement that one keep an iPhone in a case to keep it from getting destroyed if it's dropped and therefore, the benefits of the thinness disappear. (Or, keep it thin, but make it possible to switch out the battery, which actually wouldn't be difficult since the battery takes up the left side of the phone. All it needs is a door and for it to plug in instead of that cable.) Although my iPhone5 without a case miraculously survived a drop onto a concrete subway platform and then a second fall onto the tracks, it's amazing how many people I notice walking around with cracked screens.
When I saw the presentation, I wondered whether the taptic engine was going to take up room where the battery needed to go. I guess it did. That's fine...I have a long way to go on my contract anyway and this gives me a reason to wait for the next phone, which I hope will have a more powerful battery again.
I don't fracking get it. You do know that how long your phone lasts doesn't only depend on battery size, if you hitch a small engine to a huge gas tank, it will last a hell longer than if you put in a 12 cylinder enginer!
If they had not added any of the new services and kept the phone to A8 speed, battery life would have increased by 4-5h; well, I do care for having those news services and speed even if you don't.
I'm tired of this absurdity. Please think things through.
Get lost!