And don't tell me to get over it because I know I'm not the only one pissed about it.
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Far be it from me to disagree. But there ARE other people just a tad older then you, who DO in fact know more then you. Impossible as that may seem, you do not, in fact, know everything. I am 21 (my birthday was just a few days ago) and I too know what age discrimination is. But don't be THAT pissed. It's nothing personal. Apple Stores play by Apple rules. And if SJ dictates that you must be 18, then by God you gotta be 18. Maybe make a fake ID or something.
For the other point, I know you don't think your alone, but realize that in such economic times as these it is difficult for ANYONE to get a job, no less you. And when it comes to businesses imposing more rules on hiring...well, they are in the drivers seat and all we can do is hope we meet their standards because they have the pick of the litter. They wouldn't hire ME at an Apple Store in Atlanta even though I am way overqualified. ::sighs:: I guess we are in the same boat in a way.
Jonathan Brisby, I understand what you're saying but my whole point was that instead of having people that know their stuff (people that might be younger) they have people that don't know as much (at least in my experiences). But you're totally right.
<strong>Jonathan Brisby, I understand what you're saying but my whole point was that instead of having people that know their stuff (people that might be younger) they have people that don't know as much (at least in my experiences). But you're totally right.</strong><hr></blockquote>
BTW, on a personal note. I'm awed by the ammount of posts you have. (especially for one so young!) Keep up the good work!
While you're at it, throw in a 300 lb, profusely sweating gorilla that dances, yells at people for sitting down prematurely, and howls, "I... love... this... company... YEEAAHHH!!!!"
Hey, hey...we don't need that around here! Microsoft is fine with their form of--er, excuse me--Microsoft's co-founder is fine with his way of showing his love for his company. Apple has their own way...keeping everything as secret as possible and only showcasing new products 3 or 4 times a year!
There are certain things that you legally have to be an adult for, and some jobs fit the bill. They obviously want a more mature sales staff (physically), one that is more career minded. People spending $3K on a computer don't want a 15 year old selling it to them, even if he knows his stuff. That's just life. Sorry dude.
But, yes....your post count is freakin' awesome.
My question for Jobs:
When will you guys get your heads out of your asses with the PowerMac?
I would ask him about his future plans for his "Pro" desktops and if he had a contingency plan for if moto fell through or couldnt make chips fast enough that scalled well enough.
If you had to do it over again, would you just build on Unix for the original MacOS or would you do it the same way it was done the first time? If you would do it the same as it was done the first time, would you build in Networking, Smalltalk, and Email like the Xerox PARC had on their systems?
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Why did you trust Microsoft with a Lisa Prototype?
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If you hadn't left Apple in 1985, what would you have done differently that Sculley and the other Apple Ex-CEOs did if you ran Apple from 1985 to 1997?
or
When they offered it for sale, why didn't you buy the Amiga company?
or
Isn't it ironic that originally you were Anti-IBM, and now Apple makes PowerPC chips with IBM?
There are certain things that you legally have to be an adult for, and some jobs fit the bill. They obviously want a more mature sales staff (physically), one that is more career minded. People spending $3K on a computer don't want a 15 year old selling it to them, even if he knows his stuff. That's just life. Sorry dude.
But, yes....your post count is freakin' awesome.
My question for Jobs:
When will you guys get your heads out of your asses with the PowerMac?
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I look like I'm 20+ easily. Your age means **** in regards to physical appearance
Well, there are 16 year olds...then there are 16 year olds.
It isn't the age, but rather the personality, smarts, hygiene, attitude, knowledge, honesty, humor, etc. that would factor in - for me, anyway - in a situation like that.
I'm not bothered by a clued-in, knows-his-stuff 16-year-olds.
It's the surly, mumbling, attitude-laden, "don't know and don't care" types I encounter WAY too often (fast food, retail, etc.) that drive me up the wall and would make me want to not do business with them.
Apple could do worse than to have someone like applenut manning one of their stores. He probably knows more than many Mac users twice his age.
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And don't tell me to get over it because I know I'm not the only one pissed about it.
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Far be it from me to disagree. But there ARE other people just a tad older then you, who DO in fact know more then you. Impossible as that may seem, you do not, in fact, know everything. I am 21 (my birthday was just a few days ago) and I too know what age discrimination is. But don't be THAT pissed. It's nothing personal. Apple Stores play by Apple rules. And if SJ dictates that you must be 18, then by God you gotta be 18. Maybe make a fake ID or something.
For the other point, I know you don't think your alone, but realize that in such economic times as these it is difficult for ANYONE to get a job, no less you. And when it comes to businesses imposing more rules on hiring...well, they are in the drivers seat and all we can do is hope we meet their standards because they have the pick of the litter. They wouldn't hire ME at an Apple Store in Atlanta even though I am way overqualified. ::sighs:: I guess we are in the same boat in a way.
If the younger got it, they should be able to flaunt it
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<strong>"Hey Steve, can you make me dictator of <a href="http://www.sealandgov.com/"; target="_blank">Sealand</a> ?"
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Welcome to Sealand!
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<strong>Jonathan Brisby, I understand what you're saying but my whole point was that instead of having people that know their stuff (people that might be younger) they have people that don't know as much (at least in my experiences). But you're totally right.</strong><hr></blockquote>
BTW, on a personal note. I'm awed by the ammount of posts you have. (especially for one so young!) Keep up the good work!
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BTW, on a personal note. I'm awed by the ammount of posts you have. (especially for one so young!) Keep up the good work!</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> I'm sure most of the people here wouldn't call it good work, but thanks anyway.
"What is Apple doing to close the performance gap with Wintel boxes, and do you even care?"
If he answers it, then it should make for some exciting info.
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While you're at it, throw in a 300 lb, profusely sweating gorilla that dances, yells at people for sitting down prematurely, and howls, "I... love... this... company... YEEAAHHH!!!!"
<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> :eek: </strong><hr></blockquote>
Hey, hey...we don't need that around here! Microsoft is fine with their form of--er, excuse me--Microsoft's co-founder is fine with his way of showing his love for his company. Apple has their own way...keeping everything as secret as possible and only showcasing new products 3 or 4 times a year!
--Alexis
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? Who is involved in creating the flow of events?
? How big is the technical crew backstage, the ones who monitor the computers?
? How many times does he rehearse the presentation?
? At what point does the slideshow go "Golden Master"? Days before? Hours?
? What's the latest they've ever decided not to intro a product?
? If that ever happened, why did they put the brakes on?
? What are some of the bloopers HE thinks are funny now that really irked him back then?
? What was the worst audience he's ever had for a keynote?
? Who was the best guest he ever had onstage?
? What was his favorite MacWorld moment?
Yeah. I'd start with those.
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Sorry dude, thought everyone here knew that...
Oops, I don't THINK he'll mind me saying that... he did come and tell us about his Wired interview after all.
<a href="http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,49971,00.html"; target="_blank">wired</a>
There are certain things that you legally have to be an adult for, and some jobs fit the bill. They obviously want a more mature sales staff (physically), one that is more career minded. People spending $3K on a computer don't want a 15 year old selling it to them, even if he knows his stuff. That's just life. Sorry dude.
But, yes....your post count is freakin' awesome.
My question for Jobs:
When will you guys get your heads out of your asses with the PowerMac?
<img src="confused.gif" border="0">
or
Why did you trust Microsoft with a Lisa Prototype?
or
If you hadn't left Apple in 1985, what would you have done differently that Sculley and the other Apple Ex-CEOs did if you ran Apple from 1985 to 1997?
or
When they offered it for sale, why didn't you buy the Amiga company?
or
Isn't it ironic that originally you were Anti-IBM, and now Apple makes PowerPC chips with IBM?
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<strong>EmAn:
There are certain things that you legally have to be an adult for, and some jobs fit the bill. They obviously want a more mature sales staff (physically), one that is more career minded. People spending $3K on a computer don't want a 15 year old selling it to them, even if he knows his stuff. That's just life. Sorry dude.
But, yes....your post count is freakin' awesome.
My question for Jobs:
When will you guys get your heads out of your asses with the PowerMac?
I look like I'm 20+ easily. Your age means **** in regards to physical appearance
It isn't the age, but rather the personality, smarts, hygiene, attitude, knowledge, honesty, humor, etc. that would factor in - for me, anyway - in a situation like that.
I'm not bothered by a clued-in, knows-his-stuff 16-year-olds.
It's the surly, mumbling, attitude-laden, "don't know and don't care" types I encounter WAY too often (fast food, retail, etc.) that drive me up the wall and would make me want to not do business with them.
Apple could do worse than to have someone like applenut manning one of their stores. He probably knows more than many Mac users twice his age.
It isn't about age, but rather the presentation.
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I look like I'm 20+ easily. Your age means **** in regards to physical appearance</strong><hr></blockquote>
I agree. Plenty of people have told me I look much older than 15. Age really doesn't matter when it comes to appearance.