That same story has been posted on many sites; hence the request for link.
Edit:
A little context to your previous post that I quote:
"This is more serious, a way of compromising 2/3 of iPhones but DED managed to miss it in his diatribe, why?"
From your link:
"Bekrar suggested however that Apple will likely patch the related iOS holes in "a few weeks to a few months," and that the bounty is actually a credit to Apple's work.
"This challenge is one of the best advertisements for Apple as it has confirmed once again that iOS security is real and not just about marketing," he said. "No software other than iOS really deserves such a high bug bounty."
That Google indemnifies Android against patent assertions is as it should be and admirable. Apple too indemnifies developers who use their code against IP claims, up to $50. Before delving into what you asked tho what do you mean Google "made it all possible"? The security issues in this case weren't in the Google Android code were they?
EDIT: Something to consider. Over a billion Google Android smartphones active worldwide. Missing so far are all the news stories about actual harm to even 10's of millions of those users. Hackers stealing their passwords, or banking information, or credit card numbers? If there was real-life harm being done Daniel Dilger would let you know, evidence it ain't happenin'. That says more about the relative security of Android than all these Chicken Little stories IMHO.
Something to consider as well; I don't much care about what does or doesn't happen with Android OS or its users; but I would reiterate that the OEM model is great for large device numbers; not so much for quality and support. Google, et al, have to get beyond this or there will be many more Chicken Little stories.
Perhaps the merger of Android and Chrome will be a new starting point.
Edit:
Just found this post from Walt Mossberg on the the dreaded Verge;
That same story has been posted on many sites; hence the request for link.
Edit:
A little context to your previous post that I quote:
"This is more serious, a way of compromising 2/3 of iPhones but DED managed to miss it in his diatribe, why?"
From your link:
"Bekrar suggested however that Apple will likely patch the related iOS holes in "a few weeks to a few months," and that the bounty is actually a credit to Apple's work. "This challenge is one of the best advertisements for Apple as it has confirmed once again that iOS security is real and not just about marketing," he said. "No software other than iOS really deserves such a high bug bounty."
Funny that you would leave that part out.
I didn't want to quote the whole article and I assumed people might be familiar with an article on the same site.
Being fair and reasonable is mind boggling? Why should he ignore facts and act like the very people you say attacked iPhone users due to some blind brand loyalty? We need more people like @irnchriz, not less.
Agreed if we're talking general discourse and the exchange of ideas, not when it comes to defending some sleazebag company that doesn't deserve a defense.
Agreed if we're talking general discourse and the exchange of ideas, not when it comes to defending some sleazebag company that doesn't deserve a defense.
That's when it matters most of all. Your use of sleazebag to defend not including the entire story, and the common use of Scamsome, et al. just show an emotional side without even trying to make an honest and objective comment. Not including data that the serious flaws had been patched is just as bad as the one-sided and dishonest marketing from Samsung. Don't rally against what they do by doing what they do; be better than they are. You don't see Apple copying Samsung's smear campaign, do you? I'd like to think Tim Cook and Apple are above such pettiness.
That's when it matters most of all. Your use of sleazebag to defend not including the entire story, and the common use of Scamsome, et al. just show an emotional side without even trying to make an honest and objective comment. Not including data that the serious flaws had been patched is just as bad as the one-sided and dishonest marketing from Samsung. Don't rally against what they do by doing what they do; be better than they are. You don't see Apple copying Samsung's smear campaign, do you? I'd like to think Tim Cook and Apple are above such pettiness.
One thing though I hate is the false equivalencies of people here who defend Android. That somehow, because there are sometimes serious bugs in IOS, that's the same thing as a totally broken system in Android where security is in fact but a dream.
This kind of intellectual dishonesty is completely sickening; and it's also done under the guise of keeping this "fair" of "educating" us... Almost a "teach the controversy" (sic) type argument (as done for the so called evolution debate). Even though, there is no controversy about IOS being the more objectively secure. This whole line sound a bit like we're being subjected to a Fox news soundalike...
There is level a of incredible arrogance in this crowd that pushes all the buttons of anyone who doesn't like Apple, but likes their intelligence being respected.
One thing though I hate is the false equivalencies of people here who defend Android. That somehow, because there are sometimes serious bugs in IOS, that's the same thing as a totally broken system in Android where security is in fact but a dream.
This kind of intellectual dishonesty is completely sickening; and it's also done under the guise of keeping this "fair". That's the same type of construct used on Fox News to produce "fair" news...
Sure, but that is a different discussion than this one, despite having also occurred in this thread.
I would say that comparing "bug counts" is as foolish as comparing HW specs like RAM quality or CPU clockrates between varying OSes in order to determine which device will perform better. There simply isn't enough data in which to go on and there never will be with such a superficial account.
"That could mean the NSA and/or other government organizations will be able to circumvent iOS 9's security safeguards, such as full-disk encryption, and install eavesdropping apps or simply sabotage a device."
This is more serious, a way of compromising 2/3 of iPhones but DED managed to miss it in his diatribe, why?
Don't install Google's browser on your iPhone.
Problem solved.
I'll stay in the one third, I'm google free and the sky didn't fall in.
I own an app development company and would never consider such a policy. Who do you think you are that you can forbid employees to use Android phones in their free time. Such a policy is disrespectful, unethical and in most countries illegal. It reminds me of totalitarian regimes, I don't want to be associated with.
As an entrepreneur you have to manage a lot of risks. Security related risks are relevant but not among the most important ones. You always have to balance the cost and the benefits of your security policy. And by the way there is no OS without security issues.
I give my employees a yearly budget of 300 Euros for buying a company smartphone and/or tablet, giving them the possibility to buy top line models at strongly reduced prices. 75% of the employees choose a mid tier Android phones like a Moto G + a tablet. I publish white lists for apps they can install without permission. Up to now I never had an exploited security issue with Android (or with iOS). I did have security issues with Windows PCs, not with my Mac and Linux boxes.
Do you allow employees to use their phone cameras?
Can they forward company emails and sensitive information without you knowing about it?
There are solutions available for iOS and Android which allow you to take control.
It would all depend on how secure you need your business's information to be, different strokes for different folks.
One day someone will have to explain this phenomenon of certain iPhone users defending Samsung after the years of glee with which Samsung attempted to make iPhone users look like idiots. Boggles the mind, really.
not all the people pretending to be Apple users on a forum actually are Apple users.....
Do you allow employees to use their phone cameras?
Can they forward company emails and sensitive information without you knowing about it?
There are solutions available for iOS and Android which allow you to take control.
It would all depend on how secure you need your business's information to be, different strokes for different folks.
If you want to retain good employees, there needs to be a relationship of trust. So no I don't impose any restrictions on the use of smartphones or PC's, there are just guidelines. Given the fact that we are in the business of software development, any technical restriction would be counterproductive.
And something goes wrong there is still the legal framework of the work contract and general law.
Comments
http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/11/03/team-claims-1-million-bounty-for-remotely-jailbreaking-ios-91-92
sorry for not linking to the AI article
That same story has been posted on many sites; hence the request for link.
Edit:
A little context to your previous post that I quote:
"This is more serious, a way of compromising 2/3 of iPhones but DED managed to miss it in his diatribe, why?"
From your link:
"Bekrar suggested however that Apple will likely patch the related iOS holes in "a few weeks to a few months," and that the bounty is actually a credit to Apple's work.
"This challenge is one of the best advertisements for Apple as it has confirmed once again that iOS security is real and not just about marketing," he said. "No software other than iOS really deserves such a high bug bounty."
Funny that you would leave that part out.
That Google indemnifies Android against patent assertions is as it should be and admirable. Apple too indemnifies developers who use their code against IP claims, up to $50. Before delving into what you asked tho what do you mean Google "made it all possible"? The security issues in this case weren't in the Google Android code were they?
EDIT: Something to consider. Over a billion Google Android smartphones active worldwide. Missing so far are all the news stories about actual harm to even 10's of millions of those users. Hackers stealing their passwords, or banking information, or credit card numbers? If there was real-life harm being done Daniel Dilger would let you know, evidence it ain't happenin'. That says more about the relative security of Android than all these Chicken Little stories IMHO.
Something to consider as well; I don't much care about what does or doesn't happen with Android OS or its users; but I would reiterate that the OEM model is great for large device numbers; not so much for quality and support. Google, et al, have to get beyond this or there will be many more Chicken Little stories.
Perhaps the merger of Android and Chrome will be a new starting point.
Edit:
Just found this post from Walt Mossberg on the the dreaded Verge;
http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/4/9666760/walt-mossberg-google-nexus-hardware-innovation
Well, at least they can sell the phones in England.
no. they just give them away like they do here.
Being fair and reasonable is mind boggling?
Agreed if we're talking general discourse and the exchange of ideas, not when it comes to defending some sleazebag company that doesn't deserve a defense.
That's when it matters most of all. Your use of sleazebag to defend not including the entire story, and the common use of Scamsome, et al. just show an emotional side without even trying to make an honest and objective comment. Not including data that the serious flaws had been patched is just as bad as the one-sided and dishonest marketing from Samsung. Don't rally against what they do by doing what they do; be better than they are. You don't see Apple copying Samsung's smear campaign, do you? I'd like to think Tim Cook and Apple are above such pettiness.
That's when it matters most of all. Your use of sleazebag to defend not including the entire story, and the common use of Scamsome, et al. just show an emotional side without even trying to make an honest and objective comment. Not including data that the serious flaws had been patched is just as bad as the one-sided and dishonest marketing from Samsung. Don't rally against what they do by doing what they do; be better than they are. You don't see Apple copying Samsung's smear campaign, do you? I'd like to think Tim Cook and Apple are above such pettiness.
One thing though I hate is the false equivalencies of people here who defend Android. That somehow, because there are sometimes serious bugs in IOS, that's the same thing as a totally broken system in Android where security is in fact but a dream.
This kind of intellectual dishonesty is completely sickening; and it's also done under the guise of keeping this "fair" of "educating" us... Almost a "teach the controversy" (sic) type argument (as done for the so called evolution debate). Even though, there is no controversy about IOS being the more objectively secure. This whole line sound a bit like we're being subjected to a Fox news soundalike...
There is level a of incredible arrogance in this crowd that pushes all the buttons of anyone who doesn't like Apple, but likes their intelligence being respected.
Sure, but that is a different discussion than this one, despite having also occurred in this thread.
I would say that comparing "bug counts" is as foolish as comparing HW specs like RAM quality or CPU clockrates between varying OSes in order to determine which device will perform better. There simply isn't enough data in which to go on and there never will be with such a superficial account.
But with that said, and for all the doom and gloom and hand-wringing (and perhaps wishing
What was it 30% of iPhone sales are to Android switchers?
Samsung phones come with Microsoft software these days, maps, One drive etc.
Implementing activsync may be a key to flaws, since Google stopped licensing it, it's been up to manufacturers.
I have noticed that the latest Samsung phones will download and install Smart Switch without setting up or logging into a Google or Samsung account.
"That could mean the NSA and/or other government organizations will be able to circumvent iOS 9's security safeguards, such as full-disk encryption, and install eavesdropping apps or simply sabotage a device."
This is more serious, a way of compromising 2/3 of iPhones but DED managed to miss it in his diatribe, why?
Don't install Google's browser on your iPhone.
Problem solved.
I'll stay in the one third, I'm google free and the sky didn't fall in.
I own an app development company and would never consider such a policy. Who do you think you are that you can forbid employees to use Android phones in their free time. Such a policy is disrespectful, unethical and in most countries illegal. It reminds me of totalitarian regimes, I don't want to be associated with.
As an entrepreneur you have to manage a lot of risks. Security related risks are relevant but not among the most important ones. You always have to balance the cost and the benefits of your security policy. And by the way there is no OS without security issues.
I give my employees a yearly budget of 300 Euros for buying a company smartphone and/or tablet, giving them the possibility to buy top line models at strongly reduced prices. 75% of the employees choose a mid tier Android phones like a Moto G + a tablet. I publish white lists for apps they can install without permission. Up to now I never had an exploited security issue with Android (or with iOS). I did have security issues with Windows PCs, not with my Mac and Linux boxes.
Do you allow employees to use their phone cameras?
Can they forward company emails and sensitive information without you knowing about it?
There are solutions available for iOS and Android which allow you to take control.
It would all depend on how secure you need your business's information to be, different strokes for different folks.
breaking news: Google discovered Samsung is unable to properly code software.
Hardly a news considering how "good" TouchWiz is since the beginning....
One day someone will have to explain this phenomenon of certain iPhone users defending Samsung after the years of glee with which Samsung attempted to make iPhone users look like idiots. Boggles the mind, really.
not all the people pretending to be Apple users on a forum actually are Apple users.....
Do you allow employees to use their phone cameras?
Can they forward company emails and sensitive information without you knowing about it?
There are solutions available for iOS and Android which allow you to take control.
It would all depend on how secure you need your business's information to be, different strokes for different folks.
If you want to retain good employees, there needs to be a relationship of trust. So no I don't impose any restrictions on the use of smartphones or PC's, there are just guidelines. Given the fact that we are in the business of software development, any technical restriction would be counterproductive.
And something goes wrong there is still the legal framework of the work contract and general law.
wow..... Can I use it on not 3 ?