Apple's 'iPhone 7 Plus' expected to pack 3GB of RAM into 'A10' CPU in late 2016

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  • Reply 61 of 81
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by netrox View Post

     



    Because SSD is not as fast as RAM. Intel and Micron are going to change that with 3D XPoint technology though - it will be as fast as RAM yet retains data and significantly cheaper than RAM. It is possible that RAM will be totally eliminated. 




    From the corresponding wikipedia page: "Production volumes of both SSD (PCIe) and DIMM form factors are expected to reach market in 2016,[21][6] and the anticipated price per bit is higher than NAND and lower than DRAM."

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  • Reply 62 of 81
    tjwolf wrote: »
    Doubt Apple will increase the memory after they have just done so - look how many years it took them to go from 1gb to 2gb. Besides, it wouldn't really do much to improve the Plus' performance over its smaller sibling, except when lots of apps are loaded.
    Apple delayed the 2gb ram release, it should have been on the iPhone 6. The iPhone 4 doubled the 256 mb to 512, iPhone 5 doubled to 1gb ram, and I believe the iPhone 3G or 3GS had a small upgrade. So iPhone 7 is on schedule for 3gb.

    I can see Apple running different clock speeds on the A10 but different ram is to much a no, especially with 50% more. If they had it with 2.5gb ram it be realistic(other then I doubt them liking the number 2.5)
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  • Reply 63 of 81

    Apple, please don't make it any thinner. It's already comically slim as it is, to the point of becoming a structural defect. 

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  • Reply 64 of 81
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    fallenjt wrote: »
    Apple would rather invest in making more efficient battery than making it bigger resulting in a thicker phone. I don't mind the thinner phone as long as it doesn't compromise the battery life. I think the battery in the Plus version is good now.

    I don't have issues with battery life. My comment was more around RAM which I have had issues with in the past. I don't want Apple to skimp on RAM because of battery life. There shouldn't be compromises with either of those.
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  • Reply 65 of 81
    rogifan wrote: »
    I know I ask this every time but I'm going to ask again. Why is this considered "breaking"? This guy isn't breaking any new news, heck he's not even breaking any rumors. He's just making guesses on what he thinks Apple might do. I'm sorry but that does not deserve a "breaking" tag. :no:

    "Breaking" includes brain farts... so...
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  • Reply 66 of 81
    This is great news. Now I can have [B]as many as two[/B] Mobile Safari browser tabs open without either of them reloading when I switch to another app then switch right back.
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  • Reply 67 of 81
    sennensennen Posts: 1,472member

    I can't see Apple bumping the RAM two years running. Given the Plus size iPhone is already rendering down to 1920x1080 from 2208x1242, is the additional RAM even necessary if they go to screen with more pixels (e.g., 2208x1242)?

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  • Reply 68 of 81
    canukstormcanukstorm Posts: 2,770member
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    Originally Posted by sennen View Post

     

    I can't see Apple bumping the RAM two years running. Given the Plus size iPhone is already rendering down to 1920x1080 from 2208x1242, is the additional RAM even necessary if they go to screen with more pixels (e.g., 2208x1242)?


    Considering that 2208 x 1242 is the "native" resolution of the 6S Plus, I'm confident that the iPhone 7 Plus or 7S Plus is going to get this resolution screen. Whether that alone constitutes the need for an additional 1GB of RAM, I'm not sure. 

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  • Reply 69 of 81
    netmagenetmage Posts: 314member
    Apple doesn't say it's waterproof - and they also don't show it being used under water while voiding your warranty for getting it wet, but it is built to be very water resistant.

    I don't have to - plenty have done so already.

    http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/02/iphone-6s-waterproof/
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  • Reply 70 of 81
    I wouldn't worry about the system memory. Apple has continued to game the people by offering 16GB iPhones. Make 32GB the lowest capacity followed by 64 and 128GB.
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  • Reply 71 of 81
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post





    You should check out the British TV series called "Black Mirror". It had some really cool theoretical uses of future computers. It's on Netflix in the US.

    I actually tried to watch s01e01 on Netflix a few weeks ago but I thought the demand that the terrorists made of the Prime Minister was digusting and stopped watching.

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  • Reply 72 of 81
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,252member

    I would expect 3 cores to go along with the 3 GB RAM.

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  • Reply 73 of 81
    canukstormcanukstorm Posts: 2,770member
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    Originally Posted by Vision33r View Post



    I wouldn't worry about the system memory. Apple has continued to game the people by offering 16GB iPhones. Make 32GB the lowest capacity followed by 64 and 128GB.

    Or - make 32GB lowest capacity, followed by 128GB & 256GB

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  • Reply 74 of 81
    tsonitsoni Posts: 10member
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    Originally Posted by IHateRegistering View Post





    6Plus 128GB. I also don't understNd why solid state storage can't function as RAM in this day and age.

     

    Firstly, RAM is significantly faster than SSD space. A high-speed SSD maxing out SATA3's theoretical maximum 750MB/s speed is a fraction of the 21-22GB/s that even low-end 1333MHz Dual-channel DDR3 would offer.

     

    Secondly, the amounts of read-writes that RAM does would destroy an SSD in a matter of days. RAM is designed to be read-written to over and over at he expense of volatility, and that level of access would destroy SSD storage far more quickly than would be feasable.

     

    Third, SSDs can't be accessed directly by the CPU. Data has to be blocked into RAM before being handed to drives, but you wouldn't simply use NAND flash as RAM in its place for the above two reasons.

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  • Reply 75 of 81
    Someone already mentioned 3D XPoint technology, which is long overdue and will eliminate the roadblocks you listed.


    Currently, it's still slower than RAM.
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  • Reply 76 of 81
    palegolaspalegolas Posts: 1,362member
    Currently, it's still slower than RAM.
    It might be fast enough for fast virtual RAM, almost starting to blur the line between RAM and disk.
    Isn't it coming out in products next year already? Perhaps not in consumer products? It might take a while to find its place, alter the operating systems to make use of them in a way that makes sense.. and producing them in a capacity, volume that needs demand etc.
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  • Reply 77 of 81
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    Originally Posted by IHateRegistering View Post





    Someone already mentioned 3D XPoint technology, which is long overdue and will eliminate the roadblocks you listed.

     

     

    Not quite. It's narrowing the speed/price problems sure, but not the architectural ones associated.

     

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by palegolas View Post





    It might be fast enough for fast virtual RAM, almost starting to blur the line between RAM and disk.

    Isn't it coming out in products next year already? Perhaps not in consumer products? It might take a while to find its place, alter the operating systems to make use of them in a way that makes sense.. and producing them in a capacity, volume that needs demand etc.

     

    It's got a 2016 target for releasing PCIe-based drives and DIMMs. It's between NAND and DRAM in $/bit, so as for what will happen to it is up in the air.

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  • Reply 78 of 81
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    Originally Posted by BlueFire1 View Post



    Wallet open and ready.

    Concerning Apple's product introduction in making cash hand over foot.



    I hope all of you understand this one possible fact. Apple already made a workable 3Gb memory possibly before they released the 1 Gb memory iPhone. They take their sweet time since they know eager folks like yourselves are ready to dump your hard earned money (I hope it's hard earned).

     

    iPad example

    Simple fact #1: Apple already had a working prototype of an iPad 1 gen with a camera, well before they released it. They choose instead to abusively milk its loyal customer base by releasing one without a camera knowing they'd make a horde of cash, and resell the same with a camera knowing the sheep-like mentally of its die-hard loyal base. They reintroduced the exact same model with a camera and possibly 1 or 2 bells / whistles IN LESS THAN A YEAR!

     

    Well if you still don't understand Apple's money philosophy after this, I cannot help you. I'm not saying to abandon their products, but instead put a little thought into how you spend, so you make wiser purchases.

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  • Reply 79 of 81
    ascii wrote: »
    I actually tried to watch s01e01 on Netflix a few weeks ago but I thought the demand that the terrorists made of the Prime Minister was digusting and stopped watching.

    I didn't like that episode either. Skip it and go to the next one. You may also want to skip the last episode on Netflix as it is very grim and I could barely get through it.
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  • Reply 80 of 81
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