ursine1 wrote: »
It's interesting to see all the negative comments regarding the lack of an "erasure" on the Apple Pencil. I started using mechanical pencils back in high school 50+ years ago and I haven't used a regular wooden pencil in over a decade. Back when I did use pencils, I also used a separate erasure as the one that was on the pencil would usually smudge more than it would erase. And I often wondered "where did I put that damn erasure?"<snip>
wonkothesane wrote: »
The ones complaining about the omission of an eraser end are not seeing the obvious: apple is working on a second tool, called Apple Eraser
Skeuomorphism has it's place. People intuitively know what to do with a product that mimics what it looks like. For someone who's never used a digital drawing device like the Pencil, they would instinctively know that turning it over might erase.
Professional artists would not instinctively expect an eraser at the other end because professional drawing pencils typically do not have erasers. Assuming that Apple designed the Pencil as an artist's tool rather than a universal scribbling input device it makes sense to not put an eraser at the other end. An artist uses a separate eraser which has a sharp edge for maximum precision, hence with the Apple Pencil you switch into erase mode for total control of all the eraser brushes. Why wouldn't you want the same level of control with your eraser that you have in the drawing mode?
Does this address some of your questions? Links to a video for the Umake sketching app.
Are you using the uMake app for Industrial Design? If you are I would like to hear your views on it for that.
I'm looking for a App for conceptual design which is how some engineers view Industrial Design software; I have Mechanical CAD applications but they are generally poor for conceptual design. Autodesk could bring Alias to the iPad Pro, at some level, and that would be another possibility.
ireland wrote: »
The lack of an eraser is a glaring oversight.
You're taking my statement a little out of context, but fair enough. Apple tends to design products for the average consumer. However, since the Pencil is only available for the "Pro" iPad, one could theoretically say that means the Pencil is designed for "Pros". And in that light, you are absolutely correct, it would be counter-intuitive for a graphics professional used to using Wacom tablet to then use an eraser on the end of the Pencil. Personally, when I'm using a pencil professionally, I always use a separate eraser. I find it much quicker and more efficient. So you've got no argument from me that having an eraser on the end of the Apple Pencil would be counter-productive for most professional uses. Nevertheless that's not what my original point was with that statement.
My point is that Skeuomorphism has a place in design, and that handing a person who has never used a Wacom tablet, an Apple Pencil, it's intuitive to flip the pencil over to make erasures, without learning any custom software. And there are some applications where that might be the best solution -- a notepad app for instance intended for jotting down quick notes. Rather than learn the conventions of digital graphics applications, flipping the Pencil over to erase something is intuitive. Now, I will agree that Apple did not design the Pencil for that purpose, and that their target audience is not the average consumer who wants to use a stylus to jot notes on the iPad. In fact that's the last thing Apple probably wants, given their stance on the stylus, which is why I think we'll never see the iPhone support the Apple Pencil. And based on their statements, I agree they did intend the Pencil for use primarily by digital artists. In which case, I agree that an eraser on the end is not the most pragmatic solution. Nevertheless, my point about Skeuomorhism stands.
This weekend at The Metropolitan Museum of Art in the Greek and Roman section there was a guy sketching one of the heads, the work was wonderful, light expressive lines, really catching the marble's form. And he was using an iPad Pro with the Pencil.
Bingo. A physical eraser has to be a big rubber bump, an ideal digital eraser is not.
designguybrown wrote: »
Are people discarding/re-examining a possible artist table purchase because of iPad Pro (wacoms and yiynovas)