MasterCard offers Londoners free Monday rides for using Apple Pay

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  • Reply 21 of 30
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
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    And Apple Pay has the highest initial failure rate, which is when the gate does not read the chip correctly, beeps, displays that you need to ask for assistance, and you have to wait an eternity (ie, about 3 seconds), until you can try the Apple Watch again and then it usually works. By this point, you have upset at three old ladies going for coffee, two nannies trying to get the kids to school, and five bankers late for work, all sighing heavily and loudly.

     

    I use Apple Pay on the tube and I lose at least ten minutes of my life every day due to the stress and fear that grips me as I double click on the pill-shaped button and approach the ticket gate.




    "I use Apple Pay on the tube and I lose at least ten minutes of my life every day"

     

    Maybe stop using it until they improve the service? Or try using the phone which since it's bigger might give a stronger signal than the watch?

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  • Reply 22 of 30
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member

    A bit of notice would've been nice to sort out another MasterCard.  My bank doesn't support ApplePay yet.

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  • Reply 23 of 30
    jbdragonjbdragon Posts: 2,315member
    jfc1138 wrote: »

    "I use Apple Pay on the tube and I lose at least ten minutes of my life every day"

    Maybe stop using it until they improve the service? Or try using the phone which since it's bigger might give a stronger signal than the watch?

    Oryx you pull away to quickly it'll fail. Wait until it says ok and then you can take your phone or watch away from the terminal. Otherwise it'll fail
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  • Reply 24 of 30
    Does this mean the Samsung device owners are left fruitlessly waving their devices at the scanners, while commanding aloud, "Openus Gateus!"
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  • Reply 25 of 30
    chiachia Posts: 715member
    Originally Posted by sflagel View Post

    (Having said that, ApplePay, and even Apple Pay by Watch, seems more and more like a gimmick to me the longer I use it. It just feels increasingly awkward to tap a watch (twisting my arm like I am having a seizure) or a phone (balancing it carefully on my fingertips while a carefully aim for the button with my thumb), rather than a lightweight credit card. I think a Payments Ring would look less embarrassing)

     

    Hmm, your problems with Apple Pay seem rather contrived: I've found it fast and easy to use most of the NFC terminals with the Apple Watch.  I've just upgraded to a 6S and discovered the Apple Pay activated merely by bringing the device close to the reader with my thumb on the button.

     

    Carefully aiming for the button with my thumb whilst balancing the phone on my fingertips?!  Don't insult our intelligence, the iPhone didn't come out yesterday!  People seem to manage just fine with even the 6 Plus and 6S Plus.

     

    It's not the first time you've made such comments about how arduously difficult it is to use Apple Pay; your mention of a payment ring makes me wonder if you're disparaging Apple Pay in order to surreptitiously promote Kerv, the contactless payment ring.  Hope they're paying you well.

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  • Reply 26 of 30
    chiachia Posts: 715member
    Originally Posted by redhanded View Post
    I've used the Transport for London (TfL) travel card (Oystercard), a regular NFC credit card and Apple Pay and Apple Pay is definitely the slowest to open the ticket gates for the Underground.  It may only be a second but it is noticeable.

     

    Yes, I  too tried the Apple Watch on the Underground during the first few days of launch.  My experience has been it can fail to recognise twice or three times before you're finally able to open the gate.  I daren't use it during rush hour or at busy stations!  I've had the same experience with contactless payment cards at the Underground gates too so maybe it's not the Apple Watch per se but how the London Underground system interfaces to the financial card system.

     

    In contrast the Apple Watch works a treat on the London Bus readers, it's rare for me to have an issue with those and the Apple Watch.  Now that I have a 6S and this promotion is running, I'll try Apple Pay again on the London Underground, at quiet times!

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  • Reply 27 of 30
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    Yes, I  too tried the Apple Watch on the Underground during the first few days of launch.  My experience has been it can fail to recognise twice or three times before you're finally able to open the gate.  I daren't use it during rush hour or at busy stations!  I've had the same experience with contactless payment cards at the Underground gates too so maybe it's not the Apple Watch per se but how the London Underground system interfaces to the financial card system.

     

    In contrast the Apple Watch works a treat on the London Bus readers, it's rare for me to have an issue with those and the Apple Watch.  Now that I have a 6S and this promotion is running, I'll try Apple Pay again on the London Underground, at quiet times!


    The card readers on buses are on your left when you enter the bus while the card readers at the Underground ticket gates are on your right.  

     

    I think most people wear watches on their left wrist, so it is easy to tap the readers on buses with a watch however accessing the readers on the right of train ticket gates with your left hand needs more body movement!

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  • Reply 28 of 30
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    Originally Posted by ChiA View Post

     

     

    Hmm, your problems with Apple Pay seem rather contrived: I've found it fast and easy to use most of the NFC terminals with the Apple Watch.  I've just upgraded to a 6S and discovered the Apple Pay activated merely by bringing the device close to the reader with my thumb on the button.

     

    Carefully aiming for the button with my thumb whilst balancing the phone on my fingertips?!  Don't insult our intelligence, the iPhone didn't come out yesterday!  People seem to manage just fine with even the 6 Plus and 6S Plus.

     

    It's not the first time you've made such comments about how arduously difficult it is to use Apple Pay; your mention of a payment ring makes me wonder if you're disparaging Apple Pay in order to surreptitiously promote Kerv, the contactless payment ring.  Hope they're paying you well.


    Ha, no, I never even heard of Kerv and you are correct, these comments are really inappropriate for this forum. I will try to stop them. Everyone should make their own experience with Apple Pay. I guess I sometimes I just feel that all the people raving about how cool it all is need to hear that some people, including me, don't find the experience that good. But yes, it's just an opinion and I accept that no one really cares and that posting them is a waste of mine and other people's time. I will stop.

     

    (I hope all other posters who express simple opinions will do the same...)

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  • Reply 29 of 30
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
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    Originally Posted by ChiA View Post

     

     

    Yes, I  too tried the Apple Watch on the Underground during the first few days of launch.  My experience has been it can fail to recognise twice or three times before you're finally able to open the gate.  I daren't use it during rush hour or at busy stations!  I've had the same experience with contactless payment cards at the Underground gates too so maybe it's not the Apple Watch per se but how the London Underground system interfaces to the financial card system.

     

    In contrast the Apple Watch works a treat on the London Bus readers, it's rare for me to have an issue with those and the Apple Watch.  Now that I have a 6S and this promotion is running, I'll try Apple Pay again on the London Underground, at quiet times!




    "during the first few days of launch."  That could easily be the tip right there, rollouts of anything like this usually has early day glitches. Once dust settles and everything get's adjusted for scale and the real world, might be time for a retry.

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  • Reply 30 of 30
    chiachia Posts: 715member
    sflagel wrote: »
    these comments are really inappropriate for this forum. I will try to stop them. Everyone should make their own experience with Apple Pay. I guess I sometimes I just feel that all the people raving about how cool it all is need to hear that some people, including me, don't find the experience that good. But yes, it's just an opinion and I accept that no one really cares and that posting them is a waste of mine and other people's time. I will stop.

    (I hope all other posters who express simple opinions will do the same...)

    Well, you're as entitled to post here as I am, provided we keep to the rules of this website's moderators.
    Yes, we each have our opinion and our experience; I will challenge people here if they post things that seem illogical or untrue. I'll be on your back if you tell me it's easier to pay £20 with 50 pence pieces than with a single £20 note.

    Today I used Apple Pay at a terminal with my 6S. I just pulled out my phone with one hand, by chance I gripped my phone with the thumb resting over the Home button, hovered it over the NFC terminal and a second later the transaction completed. It's much easier and faster than pulling out your wallet with one hand, taking the card out with the other, aligning the card with the slot in the card reader then tapping your pin code on the keypad. Yes, you can use the contactless card singlehandedly without taking it from the wallet or purse, unless you suffer from the dreaded card clash, in which case you're back to square one again.
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