usually advancing technology lowers cost & improves performance.
see: home broadband.
i pay the same for 25 mbps FIOS that i paid for 10 mbps FIOS 5 years ago.
This is why i think i am okay with the throttling - don't charge more just mange your network better.
Which is what is happening here
Your $30 in 2008 got you 'unlimited' EDGE (or slower) data. $30 in 2008 money is about $33.14 in 2015 according to an online inflation calculator and gets you 'unlimited' LTE (for $35). A couple generations of new tech for about the same value in cost.
You must have the 5GB plan, AT&T only allows tethering on the 5GB plan. It's absurd
Nope, the original unlimited iPhone plan, I had to pay an additional $4.50 a month to tether, which I did on ocasion.
I did switch a couple years ago to a 15gb family sharing (I never used more than a couple GB/month on the unlimited) which includes tethering, and I must say having it on all the time is convenient. (tethering is included free with family sharing plans)
it's not really absurd, You (and I up to a couple years ago) have a grandfathered unlimited plan. You were never promised tethering, you could enable tethering for a fee. Why do you think you should get it for free?
Hmmm --- No one knows the real facts but IM(cynical)O- I doubt ATT 'grandfathered unlimited subscribers' are really taxing the system or 'ATT is losing money'(how would they account to show them 'losing' money on grandfathered customers?). They just know they could make 'more money' from them AND if they get the high users down to lower usage levels... all the better.
This is just ol'fashion capitalist business practice of demand/supply/maximizing profits. It is what it is.
AT&T is the worst...except for all the other terrible choices.
AT&T and Verizon charge more, but their service doesn't suck. Take your pick.
If you want nice clean fresh oats expect to pay a fair price. If you are willing to accept the oats after they have been through the horse, the price will be considerably less.
Hmmm --- No one knows the real facts but IM(cynical)O- I doubt ATT 'grandfathered unlimited subscribers' are really taxing the system or 'ATT is losing money'(how would they account to show them 'losing' money on grandfathered customers?). They just know they could make 'more money' from them AND if they get the high users down to lower usage levels... all the better.
This is just ol'fashion capitalist business practice of demand/supply/maximizing profits. It is what it is.
It is not even that. As I said above, $30 in 2008 money is over $33 in today's money, and you are getting LTE, not EDGE. Since the value of money decreases, prices increase so that the value received stays about the same (on average -- this new price will probably stay level for a while, even after $30 in 2008 money surpasses $35 in value in current money)
How can they raise the price if you have a contract? Seems to me they would have to wait for the end of the contract.
Admittedly, I haven't read the contract to see if it permits price increases, but if it doesn't and they raise my price, I will be contacting the State Attorney General's Office. Permitting me to get out of the contract doesn't help much because most (or all) of the non-unlimited contracts are actually more expensive than my unlimited contract, so I don't want out (even if it would enable me to get a new phone sooner).
As far as speed goes, I don't know how razormaid is getting the speed he/she thinks they're getting (sure you're not measuring WiFi speed?) I just checked mine (in NYC, midtown east side) and got 2.7Mbps down and .06 up. That's not very good. In my office (on WiFi) I got 13.76mbps down and 7.78 up (using Speedtest).
Your $30 in 2008 got you 'unlimited' EDGE (or slower) data. $30 in 2008 money is about $33.14 in 2015 according to an online inflation calculator and gets you 'unlimited' LTE (for $35). A couple generations of new tech for about the same value in cost.
I know it isnt a perfect comparison, but AT&T and Verizon seem to be companies tied to antiquated thinking, similar to my hometown a**holes known as Comcast.
Rather than "if we build it, they will come" they seem to think "screw loyalty, we want more money".
For me, T-Mobile finally built it well enough in Philadelphia in July of 2015 to leap from AT&T.
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Which is what is happening here
Your $30 in 2008 got you 'unlimited' EDGE (or slower) data. $30 in 2008 money is about $33.14 in 2015 according to an online inflation calculator and gets you 'unlimited' LTE (for $35). A couple generations of new tech for about the same value in cost.
You must have the 5GB plan, AT&T only allows tethering on the 5GB plan. It's absurd
Not a very informed comment to be sure. $35 for unlimited LTE data without throttling is not a lot to pay.
Oopsies. I misspoke. What I meant to say was:
"That's a lot to pay for a shitty dumb pipe."
You must have the 5GB plan, AT&T only allows tethering on the 5GB plan. It's absurd
On the unlimited plan Hotspot is an additional $10.00 a month.
I'm on a contract. Raise my cost and I can keep the phone and dump them and switch.
Go ahead, AT&T. Try it.
Exactly. I have a contract, too. They can't raise my price, as far as I know.
You must have the 5GB plan, AT&T only allows tethering on the 5GB plan. It's absurd
Nope, the original unlimited iPhone plan, I had to pay an additional $4.50 a month to tether, which I did on ocasion.
I did switch a couple years ago to a 15gb family sharing (I never used more than a couple GB/month on the unlimited) which includes tethering, and I must say having it on all the time is convenient. (tethering is included free with family sharing plans)
it's not really absurd, You (and I up to a couple years ago) have a grandfathered unlimited plan. You were never promised tethering, you could enable tethering for a fee. Why do you think you should get it for free?
Hmmm --- No one knows the real facts but IM(cynical)O- I doubt ATT 'grandfathered unlimited subscribers' are really taxing the system or 'ATT is losing money'(how would they account to show them 'losing' money on grandfathered customers?). They just know they could make 'more money' from them AND if they get the high users down to lower usage levels... all the better.
This is just ol'fashion capitalist business practice of demand/supply/maximizing profits. It is what it is.
AT&T is the worst...except for all the other terrible choices.
AT&T and Verizon charge more, but their service doesn't suck. Take your pick.
If you want nice clean fresh oats expect to pay a fair price. If you are willing to accept the oats after they have been through the horse, the price will be considerably less.
Hmmm --- No one knows the real facts but IM(cynical)O- I doubt ATT 'grandfathered unlimited subscribers' are really taxing the system or 'ATT is losing money'(how would they account to show them 'losing' money on grandfathered customers?). They just know they could make 'more money' from them AND if they get the high users down to lower usage levels... all the better.
This is just ol'fashion capitalist business practice of demand/supply/maximizing profits. It is what it is.
It is not even that. As I said above, $30 in 2008 money is over $33 in today's money, and you are getting LTE, not EDGE. Since the value of money decreases, prices increase so that the value received stays about the same (on average -- this new price will probably stay level for a while, even after $30 in 2008 money surpasses $35 in value in current money)
Admittedly, I haven't read the contract to see if it permits price increases, but if it doesn't and they raise my price, I will be contacting the State Attorney General's Office. Permitting me to get out of the contract doesn't help much because most (or all) of the non-unlimited contracts are actually more expensive than my unlimited contract, so I don't want out (even if it would enable me to get a new phone sooner).
As far as speed goes, I don't know how razormaid is getting the speed he/she thinks they're getting (sure you're not measuring WiFi speed?) I just checked mine (in NYC, midtown east side) and got 2.7Mbps down and .06 up. That's not very good. In my office (on WiFi) I got 13.76mbps down and 7.78 up (using Speedtest).
They way I see it it's an extra $5 for an extra 17GB of throttle-free data...I'll take it.
I now am getting (consistently) over 40 Mbps down / 25 Mbps up with my iPhone 5s
I'd post the screen shot, but i don't have it hosted...
FIOS improves performance & maintains price
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I know it isnt a perfect comparison, but AT&T and Verizon seem to be companies tied to antiquated thinking, similar to my hometown a**holes known as Comcast.
Rather than "if we build it, they will come" they seem to think "screw loyalty, we want more money".
For me, T-Mobile finally built it well enough in Philadelphia in July of 2015 to leap from AT&T.