Apple rumored to debut OLED iPhone in 2017

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  • Reply 21 of 29
    sirlance99sirlance99 Posts: 1,293member
    seankill said:



    Have you ever looked at Samsung OLED phones/tablets in Bestbuy? I do, every generation. The S5 has SERIOUS burn in issues. The Samsung guy there blamed in on the bad demo that let the phone set on the screens forever; however, he claimed, they were uploading a new demo that would prevent this. Hmmm, OK I thought. 

    The Note 5 and S6 come out, with a new demo, I think? Anyway, guess what I find? Burn in/Ghosting, whichever you chose to call it. The screen it is on makes it hard to see but look in the center for darker lines. It was much more obvious on white screens. The phone was clearly running a Demo that switched the screen often. The phone was 3 months old at the time. This may not be real world experience, I wouldn't know, but every Samsung phone/tablet over 3 months old showed this in the 2 Bestbuys I checked. I am quite skeptical of the technology for obvious reasons. None of the Apple products I tested showed similar issues, even the real old iPads and iPhones.

    Just throwing this out there. OLEDs also struggle in life span, mostly the blue OLEDS. 

    I would buy an OLED iPhone but I won't be buying one in 2017. Not sure about 2018.


    Those phones are on 24 hours a day 7 days a week. What do you expect?
  • Reply 22 of 29
    seankillseankill Posts: 566member
    seankill said:
    Those phones are on 24 hours a day 7 days a week. What do you expect?

    In 90 days, this equals about 2200 hours, lets add 10% and round up, 2500 hours. In the period of 3 years, this equals less than 2 hours per day, most smartphone displays are on more than that per day. It is your choice to define if this is acceptable to call a quality technology but to me it is not. OLEDs are still maturing. The other thing you need to read in my post is how the LCDs on the iPads and iPhones, you know the iPads that have been there anywhere from 1-3 years, do not display this issue......At all. OLED is the future but LCDs have much better life and reliability. I am hoping many of these issues are further resolved before it hits an iPhone.
    edited March 2016 pscooter63
  • Reply 23 of 29
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    seankill said:



    Have you ever looked at Samsung OLED phones/tablets in Bestbuy? I do, every generation. The S5 has SERIOUS burn in issues. The Samsung guy there blamed in on the bad demo that let the phone set on the screens forever; however, he claimed, they were uploading a new demo that would prevent this. Hmmm, OK I thought. 

    The Note 5 and S6 come out, with a new demo, I think? Anyway, guess what I find? Burn in/Ghosting, whichever you chose to call it. The screen it is on makes it hard to see but look in the center for darker lines. It was much more obvious on white screens. The phone was clearly running a Demo that switched the screen often. The phone was 3 months old at the time. This may not be real world experience, I wouldn't know, but every Samsung phone/tablet over 3 months old showed this in the 2 Bestbuys I checked. I am quite skeptical of the technology for obvious reasons. None of the Apple products I tested showed similar issues, even the real old iPads and iPhones.

    Just throwing this out there. OLEDs also struggle in life span, mostly the blue OLEDS. 

    I would buy an OLED iPhone but I won't be buying one in 2017. Not sure about 2018.


    I don't doubt that you can get burn in if you leave the same image on the screen for 3 months.  Stuff your 3 months, my phone has had 6 YEARS of use and no burn in.  I wouldn't hesitate to buy another OLED screened phone, because  I know I do not have an application that requires leaving the screen displaying a static image for months at a time.

    I posted a photo showing a 6 year old OLED screen showing no degradation in displaying blue, so you can throw whatever you like, as I know from first-hand personal experience it's rubbish.
  • Reply 24 of 29
    msanttimsantti Posts: 1,377member
    A lot of damage control around here as usual.

    The LCD in Apples iPhones are very good but lets face it, its not up to OLED standards.

    Deal with it.
    staticx57
  • Reply 25 of 29
    seankillseankill Posts: 566member
    cnocbui said:
    seankill said:
    I don't doubt that you can get burn in if you leave the same image on the screen for 3 months.  Stuff your 3 months, my phone has had 6 YEARS of use and no burn in.  I wouldn't hesitate to buy another OLED screened phone, because  I know I do not have an application that requires leaving the screen displaying a static image for months at a time.

    I posted a photo showing a 6 year old OLED screen showing no degradation in displaying blue, so you can throw whatever you like, as I know from first-hand personal experience it's rubbish.
    The demos don't allow static screens............ Please re-read the post for details. That being said.... Maybe there is a disconnect between that scenario and real world; You would likely know better than me given you have had an OLED phone. All I know is the LCDs are still better in this department because they do not show the same issues, including Samsung's LCD tablets.

    At least OLEDs have one more year to mature before Apple begins shipping them, if they switch.
    edited March 2016
  • Reply 26 of 29
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,054member
    mac_128 said:
    Bull. Apple might switch to OLED, that wouldn't surprise me. But to think that they'd have it "limited to high end models" is stupid. The iPhone 7S and the 7S Plus will be the only phones released at the time, and they're both high end models. Apple doesn't make low end models, they make high end models and then continue to sell them as the years go on at lower prices.
    Well, since the issue is yield, it could be limited to the 7s Plus initially. And to the extent they're able to supply the 7s & 7s Plus, they might not equip a possible 4-inch "7c" with the more expensive screens. While it's less likely, there's also a scenario where they offer the 7s in a 16/32/64GB LCD configuration only, with a 128/256GB OLED configuration. I can easily see Apple doing all of those things. 
    7c? What's that? Another pure bs rumor ? There's only rumor of 5se which may be in mid or low tier. 
  • Reply 27 of 29
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
    fallenjt said:
    mac_128 said:
    Well, since the issue is yield, it could be limited to the 7s Plus initially. And to the extent they're able to supply the 7s & 7s Plus, they might not equip a possible 4-inch "7c" with the more expensive screens. While it's less likely, there's also a scenario where they offer the 7s in a 16/32/64GB LCD configuration only, with a 128/256GB OLED configuration. I can easily see Apple doing all of those things. 
    7c? What's that? Another pure bs rumor ? There's only rtumor of 5se which may be in mid or low tier. 
    It's an extrapolation of one possible outcome. The point is, there are any number of ways to explain what is meant by yet another rumor that suggests Apple will only equip its high end phones with OLED, but not lower end models. Whatever you call it, it makes sense that Apple will update the "5se" by the time the 7s comes out -- that's a two year window on a Spring update schedule. Unless, of course they completely discontinue the 4" phone. 
  • Reply 28 of 29
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    msantti said:
    Gee, about time!

    Apple really behind the curve on this one.

    Samsung has the highest rated phone displays  out there.

    Get with the program Apple.

    http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm
    Do the same fracking test in 1 year and call me bud; find the stats hey!
    edited March 2016
  • Reply 29 of 29
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    ireland said:
    Good because it's 2016 and the iPhone 6s while it is an excellent display has less than excellent black levels. Take an all black background with a small amount of white text on it, i.e. a centred-title movie credit transition and you'll see not very dark blacks. In fact I've done a comparison and in that scenario the 6 and 6s has brighter black-levels than an iPhone 5 (as in worse; due to the larger backlight I suppose). But that explanation is irrelevant. The end result is the only thing that counts. Not that OLED displays are without fault. I've heard complains that even modern ones suffer odd motion blur and artifact issues—even expensive TVs. What we need is a smartphone display what the Kuro was to TV displays.
    Longevity of OLED is still way way way less than a LCD, Samsung phones are trash after 2 years so I guess that makes sense.
    New tech by LG has aleviated this somewhat, but your still not going to get a great display past 2.5 years with OLED , which may hurt resale.
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