Removing the bezels and Home button so it can look like every other Android phone out there? No.
And...do people here not understand aspect ratios? The iPhone has almost no side bezel as it is. You can't just remove the top and bottom bezels and add more screen. You'd still have to make the phone WIDER in order to make the screen itself any taller. And no one wants them to be any wider than they are.
As many have observed, and AI apparently as not, it's quite possible to gain 0.3" of display without making the phone bigger by shrinking the bezel. It's absurd to declare something absurd without due consideration.
As many have observed, and AI apparently as not, it's quite possible to gain 0.3" of display without making the phone bigger by shrinking the bezel. It's absurd to declare something absurd without due consideration.
No, it isn't.
You are so wrong. Many phones have a bigger screen and are smaller than the iPhone 6 Plus.
Removing the bezels and Home button so it can look like every other Android phone out there? No.
And...do people here not understand aspect ratios? The iPhone has almost no side bezel as it is. You can't just remove the top and bottom bezels and add more screen. You'd still have to make the phone WIDER in order to make the screen itself any taller. And no one wants them to be any wider than they are.
Either you didn't read my post on that, or didn't pay attention. Screens that are essentially full face width are already here. Apple could use a screen that stretches to the side metal chassis. Look at how much room that is. I just measured my 6+ with a digital caliper. At each side of the black face of the screen, which is actually a small amount less wide than that (there's a narrow black mask between the screen and the surrounding glass to occlude any minor miscentering of the screen), I get .134" of space. Double that for both sides and I get .268". That's just for the width. The screen now is 2.72" wide. It's 4.83" high.
So I did some calculations. Just adding .07" to each side, instead of the measured .134", gives us a total of .14". The new width is 2.86". Now we can do some work to find that the length of the sides needs to be .24889" longer, for a length of 5.07889". Doing the math gives us a diagonal of 5.83", which is close enough.
We see that the width is still well short of the width of the glass now, by .128" - a full eighth inch, well short of full width. The length of the screen is just .24889" longer. That's not much folks!
As many have observed, and AI apparently as not, it's quite possible to gain 0.3" of display without making the phone bigger by shrinking the bezel. It's absurd to declare something absurd without due consideration.
No, it isn't.
Of course it is. You're saying that no real thought and math should be put into this before making a conclusion? That is absurd. My post above gives the real numbers.
Maybe the end of the home button with Touch ID built into the screen? Then able to get a bigger screen in the same or smaller footprint? Just a guess.
I hate this Idea! Now you've turned the iPhone into looking like most Android phones!!! The Home Button is a big part of the look of the iPhone. I like the real button. I would hate the home button being built into the screen. A 5.5" iPhone is also more then big enough!!! The Nexus 6 and it's 6" screen didn't sell in huge numbers. The phone is just way to HUGE! There is such a thing as to big for a phone. 5.8" from 5.5, why? You're almost getting into tablet area. Why not get a tablet that once in a while can act as a phone!
I'm for keeping the home button! There's nothing stopping Apple from releasing a OLED 5.5" screen!!! If you want a phone that looks like a hundred other Android phones out there, go buy a Android phone!
Even when the Home button is removed, we cannot get rid of the top and bottom bezels. And rounded corners are good for handling and must be preserved. The top bezel will include the usual stuff, no problem with that. What to do with the bottom bezel then? Here is my humble request: make it full speaker and remove the speaker(s) from the bottom edge ;-p
Maybe the end of the home button with Touch ID built into the screen? Then able to get a bigger screen in the same or smaller footprint? Just a guess.
I hate this Idea! Now you've turned the iPhone into looking like most Android phones!!! The Home Button is a big part of the look of the iPhone. I like the real button. I would hate the home button being built into the screen. A 5.5" iPhone is also more then big enough!!! The Nexus 6 and it's 6" screen didn't sell in huge numbers. The phone is just way to HUGE! There is such a thing as to big for a phone. 5.8" from 5.5, why? You're almost getting into tablet area. Why not get a tablet that once in a while can act as a phone!
I'm for keeping the home button! There's nothing stopping Apple from releasing a OLED 5.5" screen!!! If you want a phone that looks like a hundred other Android phones out there, go buy a Android phone!
Oh but you have this backwards. The Android phones are just copies of the iPhone. Since they already look like iPhones there is no harm making iPhones look like Android phones since they already look like iPhones. It is just a big circle. Follow?
Maybe the end of the home button with Touch ID built into the screen? Then able to get a bigger screen in the same or smaller footprint? Just a guess.
I hate this Idea! Now you've turned the iPhone into looking like most Android phones!!! The Home Button is a big part of the look of the iPhone. I like the real button. I would hate the home button being built into the screen. A 5.5" iPhone is also more then big enough!!!
I share your enthusiasm regarding the distinctive appearance of the iPhones and I equally hate that phablet business which is no more than a smartphone equivalent of the already buried netbook business...
But the removal of the Home button is not directly related to that phablet business. This the most critical part of the iPhone and the iPad in terms of failure. I saw an iPad Mini 4 with a Home button so loosened that it is about to fall. The removal of it will allow to enlarge the screen while keeping the overall footprint small with a more creative use of the bottom bezel.
Like I've been saying for YEARS the next big move for iPhone would be shrinking the bezel and deleting the home button.
I can easily see a 5.8 inch screen.
iPhone Pro - 5.8 inch iPhone Plus - 5.2 inches iPhone - 4.7 inches iPhone Mini - 4.0 inches
Please note that Apple will sell almost 300,000,000 iPhones a year. So having 4 different size screens is no big deal. They will still enjoy massive economies of scale and bulk pricing with 4 screen sizes. This is just the natural progression. Look how the iPod started with one model and expanded to many models.
IF Apple goes to a full device screen with home button integrated into the touch screen and the screen activated via power button, the current screen size of 5.5 becomes 5.8, the 4.7 becomes 5.0, and the 4.0 becomes 4.2 (all sizes approximate) without having to change the outward physical dimensions. That is iPhone 7 (small), 7plus (medium), and 7pro (large, plus Apple Pencil capable) without having to mention dimensions. 3 sizes, with 3 capacities, with 3 colors (plus product RED) is much easier to manage, logistically.
Removing the bezels and Home button so it can look like every other Android phone out there? No.
And...do people here not understand aspect ratios? The iPhone has almost no side bezel as it is. You can't just remove the top and bottom bezels and add more screen. You'd still have to make the phone WIDER in order to make the screen itself any taller. And no one wants them to be any wider than they are.
Yeah, nobody wants a wider screen, that would just be terrible.
This is what Mel was alluding to. The S7 Edge and and 6S+ have the same size screen. That home button is an anachronism. My Nokia 730 has an all glass front with no physical buttons cluttering it and no chin or forhead. The speaker output is through an actual slot in the Gorilla glass. The other day I saw a Sharp phone that had a chin but the screen extended right to the top edge.
It is an absurd idea but it doesn't mean Apple won't do it. Dont know why they just throw GSM into the iPad mini as an option and let all those strange people who think they need a massive screen something to drool over.
Maybe the end of the home button with Touch ID built into the screen? Then able to get a bigger screen in the same or smaller footprint? Just a guess.
If the home button is removed, to wake the phone you'd still need the little power button.
Says who? Even in the 70s there were TVs with a capacitive power on button. It's really no big deal for the always-on M-series CPU inside iOS devices to monitor the screen for touch.
Removing the bezels and Home button so it can look like every other Android phone out there? No.
And...do people here not understand aspect ratios? The iPhone has almost no side bezel as it is. You can't just remove the top and bottom bezels and add more screen. You'd still have to make the phone WIDER in order to make the screen itself any taller. And no one wants them to be any wider than they are.
Aspect ratios are irrelevant: Apple made e.g. 16:10 sceens despite 16:9 being "standard": iPad screens are not 16:9, either. So if Apple gets rid of the home button and makes an edge to edge screen in a same sized phone, the might make an 17:9 or 18:9 screen. Apple also for the longest time had screen resolutions that have nothing to do with "standard resolution", but that bothers only a few people, none of which are decision makers at Apple.
As many have observed, and AI apparently as not, it's quite possible to gain 0.3" of display without making the phone bigger by shrinking the bezel. It's absurd to declare something absurd without due consideration.
It's absurd because the screen size is ridiculous while 5.5" is around. Why would Apple want to increase a stupid .3" screen by reducing bezels instead of keeping the same screen size but smaller form? Increasing .3" screen adds little to no benefit while costing developers a lot to resize the damn apps!
As many have observed, and AI apparently as not, it's quite possible to gain 0.3" of display without making the phone bigger by shrinking the bezel. It's absurd to declare something absurd without due consideration.
It's absurd because the screen size is ridiculous while 5.5" is around. Why would Apple want to increase a stupid .3" screen by reducing bezels instead of keeping the same screen size but smaller form? Increasing .3" screen adds little to no benefit while costing developers a lot to resize the damn apps!
Keeping the same 1920x1080 resolution as the 6/6S+ and adding .3" inches to the size has the DPI at 379DPI. Which is higher than the plain old 6/6S and there are ZERO issues with that screen.
Removing the bezels and Home button so it can look like every other Android phone out there? No.
And...do people here not understand aspect ratios? The iPhone has almost no side bezel as it is. You can't just remove the top and bottom bezels and add more screen. You'd still have to make the phone WIDER in order to make the screen itself any taller. And no one wants them to be any wider than they are.
Yeah, nobody wants a wider screen, that would just be terrible.
This is what Mel was alluding to. The S7 Edge and and 6S+ have the same size screen. That home button is an anachronism. My Nokia 730 has an all glass front with no physical buttons cluttering it and no chin or forhead. The speaker output is through an actual slot in the Gorilla glass. The other day I saw a Sharp phone that had a chin but the screen extended right to the top edge.
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And...do people here not understand aspect ratios? The iPhone has almost no side bezel as it is. You can't just remove the top and bottom bezels and add more screen. You'd still have to make the phone WIDER in order to make the screen itself any taller. And no one wants them to be any wider than they are.
No, it isn't.
So I did some calculations. Just adding .07" to each side, instead of the measured .134", gives us a total of .14". The new width is 2.86". Now we can do some work to find that the length of the sides needs to be .24889" longer, for a length of 5.07889". Doing the math gives us a diagonal of 5.83", which is close enough.
We see that the width is still well short of the width of the glass now, by .128" - a full eighth inch, well short of full width. The length of the screen is just .24889" longer. That's not much folks!
And do it right now for the incoming iPhone (7).
But the removal of the Home button is not directly related to that phablet business. This the most critical part of the iPhone and the iPad in terms of failure. I saw an iPad Mini 4 with a Home button so loosened that it is about to fall. The removal of it will allow to enlarge the screen while keeping the overall footprint small with a more creative use of the bottom bezel.
This is what Mel was alluding to. The S7 Edge and and 6S+ have the same size screen. That home button is an anachronism. My Nokia 730 has an all glass front with no physical buttons cluttering it and no chin or forhead. The speaker output is through an actual slot in the Gorilla glass. The other day I saw a Sharp phone that had a chin but the screen extended right to the top edge.
Dont know why they just throw GSM into the iPad mini as an option and let all those strange people who think they need a massive screen something to drool over.
Aspect ratios are irrelevant: Apple made e.g. 16:10 sceens despite 16:9 being "standard": iPad screens are not 16:9, either.
So if Apple gets rid of the home button and makes an edge to edge screen in a same sized phone, the might make an 17:9 or 18:9 screen.
Apple also for the longest time had screen resolutions that have nothing to do with "standard resolution", but that bothers only a few people, none of which are decision makers at Apple.
It's absurd because the screen size is ridiculous while 5.5" is around. Why would Apple want to increase a stupid .3" screen by reducing bezels instead of keeping the same screen size but smaller form? Increasing .3" screen adds little to no benefit while costing developers a lot to resize the damn apps!