Obama's 'tone deaf' comments on encryption draw criticism at SXSW

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  • Reply 41 of 47
    CMA102DLCMA102DL Posts: 121member
    James Clapper (DNI): “A lot of people find this surprising in our post-9/11 world but in 2013 ‘cyber’ bumped ‘terrorism’ out of the top spot on our list of national threats,” he said. “And cyber has led our report every year since then.”

    http://www.federaltimes.com/story/government/cybersecurity/2016/02/04/cyber-bigger-threat-terrorism/79816482/

    Michael Hayden (ex-NSA chief): “Jim Clapper, Director of National Intelligence — for the last three years, has said the primary threat to the United States is cyber. The DNI says the primary thing that keeps him awake at night is cyber threat. Why would you weaken your cyber defense potentially, even if it were a good idea for these other problems over here. And so I’m broadly with Tim Cook and Apple.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/25/former-nsa-chief-i-am-broadly-with-apple/

    President Obama: “America’s economic prosperity, national security, and our individual liberties depend on our commitment to securing cyberspace and maintaining an open, interoperable, secure, and reliable Internet. Our critical infrastructure continues to be at risk from threats in cyberspace, and our economy is harmed by the theft of our intellectual property.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/foreign-policy/cybersecurity

    The biggest threat to National Security is Cyber, not terror (ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc) and unbreakable encryption is the only tool we have to defend from it. Obama's administration wants to punch a hole in the safety net of encryption.







    edited March 2016 jony0ration al
  • Reply 42 of 47
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    volcan said:
    SpamSandwich said:

    There is no compromise possible when math is involved. It's either secure encryption or it isn't.
    It is not the encryption that is preventing the FBI from getting at the data, it is the auto wipe feature which doesn't involve encryption at all. Encryption keys vary in strength. The larger the key size the stronger it is. All encryption can be broken by brute force...eventually. There are also various types of encryption such as AES, RSA and different algorithms such as Elliptic Curve and Symmetrical which offer varying degrees of protection. I believe Apple uses 256 AES on iOS, which is on the strong side but certainly not absolute.
    Point taken.
  • Reply 43 of 47
    volcanvolcan Posts: 1,799member
    CMA102DL said:

    Once they succeed at coercing Apple to remove the 10 and time delays, it will move on to the encryption itself and there is no stopping. This is a very steep slippery slope.
    Agreed, which is why they want to get Apple to comply quickly. As time goes on, unlocking that phone will become less and less relevant. Apple could potentially tie this up in the courts for years, but if they lose, other countries and companies will be next. If the backdoor thing happens it will bad for consumers and bad for business. One potential compromise could be something like we currently have for e-commerce servers. In order to have strong encryption, you would need to apply for a certificate which would be issued only to people who pass a background check and pay the authorizing agency.
    edited March 2016
  • Reply 44 of 47
    CMA102DLCMA102DL Posts: 121member
  • Reply 45 of 47
    volcan said:

    It is not the encryption that is preventing the FBI from getting at the data, it is the auto wipe feature which doesn't involve encryption at all. Encryption keys vary in strength. The larger the key size the stronger it is. All encryption can be broken by brute force...eventually. There are also various types of encryption such as AES, RSA and different algorithms such as Elliptic Curve and Symmetrical which offer varying degrees of protection. I believe Apple uses 256 AES on iOS, which is on the strong side but certainly not absolute.
    The key is an integral part of an encryption system. If that key cannot be secured, then the encryption system is broken just as surely as if a brute force attack reverse engineered that key. The auto wipe and delay features exist to protect the key. If you remove them, that key becomes accessible to anyone who wants it.

    Put another way, you could put the ultimate "uncrackable" lock on the front door of your house, but if the government requires you to put a copy of your key in a fake rock in the front yard, your house will be broken into.
    ration al
  • Reply 46 of 47
    I love how hypocritical progressives are. Encryption is absolute? Yep. Constitutionally protected rights? Not unless the goverment gets near their iOS devices. Now all of a sudden 4th amendment protections mean something. Think on these things, proggies, for that tomfoolery will be the end of our republic.
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