I don't think you understand how faith and religion work.
Since you don’t understand that words have definitions, I’m not surprised that you’re confused.
Wrong, and if you think that any religious "definition" holds absolute credibility amidst massive religious disagreements, then the state of the world must be very confusing to you.
There is no single dictionary or authority that holds an uncontested, specific definition of either Jesus or Yahweh.
“Ye are of your father the Devil and the lusts of your father ye will do” and “Boiling in excrement in hell for all eternity” are pretty fucking specific, sorry.
Other opinions are available and are just as relevant...
My studies have taught that the Father is Yahweh or YHWH and the Messiah is Yahushua or Yahshua.
But those studies are irrelevant now because I don't believe in Judeo-Christian divinity of any sort whatsoever. All religion is make believe in my opinion but if religious belief inspires people to help their fellow humans I'm not one to discourage their efforts even if their motivation is misplaced.
I can disprove that in under 300 words and without even invoking religion in any capacity, but it will just be deleted like the last time I posted it because feelings trump fact.
Yeah, a lot of “Christian” content has been usurped by heresies in the last century or so.
This also doesn’t exist. There’s no “shared” heritage or whatever
Not sure what your position actually is... as usual. Why do you even bother posting if your response is going to be vague, smug and condescending? Perhaps you should actually say what you believe instead of sarcastically denouncing everyone else's remarks.
“Ye are of your father the Devil and the lusts of your father ye will do” and “Boiling in excrement in hell for all eternity” are pretty fucking specific, sorry. Nah.
Huh? What do they even have to do with the subject at had, specific or not? Weird evidences you offer.
There are many different varieties of belief in Jesus, Yahweh, the trinity, and the relationship between them. You can believe in whichever one you want, but quit with the dullard denial of other opinions and their relevancy.
crowley said: ...quit with the dullard denial of other opinions and their relevancy.
Words have definitions, crowley. You’ll learn that eventually.
Words are imprecise, malleable and definitions are often inadequate. That applies tenfold for matters of faith, where definitions are barely even relevant unless you are talking within the established boundaries of strict doctrine, which, unless I've clicked on the wrong message board, I don't think we are. Whether Jesus = Yahweh goes far beyond dictionary definitions, trinity scholars have struggled with this for centuries, and the canonical settlements have been by convention, not by divine outreach. Convention is a guide to what lots of other people thing, not necessarily the truth.
You seem to think that the dictionary is some kind of set rulebook. It isn't. "Definitionally" isn't a magic word that wins you an argument. You'll learn that eventually.
Then they should leave Saudi Arabia, and all middle eastern countries where a) women can't vote, drive or go into city by themselves, b) gays cannot live their lifestyle without chance of going to prison, and c) Christians cannot openly discuss their faith.
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There is no single dictionary or authority that holds an uncontested, specific definition of either Jesus or Yahweh.
pretty moot argument and pointless one-upmanship.
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“Boiling in excrement in hell for all eternity”
are pretty fucking specific, sorry.
Nah.
But those studies are irrelevant now because I don't believe in Judeo-Christian divinity of any sort whatsoever. All religion is make believe in my opinion but if religious belief inspires people to help their fellow humans I'm not one to discourage their efforts even if their motivation is misplaced.
This also doesn’t exist. There’s no “shared” heritage or whatever.
singularity said:
I can disprove that in under 300 words and without even invoking religion in any capacity, but it will just be deleted like the last time I posted it because feelings trump fact.
There are many different varieties of belief in Jesus, Yahweh, the trinity, and the relationship between them. You can believe in whichever one you want, but quit with the dullard denial of other opinions and their relevancy.
Very boring.
You seem to think that the dictionary is some kind of set rulebook. It isn't. "Definitionally" isn't a magic word that wins you an argument. You'll learn that eventually.
Not really, since that’s not what is being discussed here.