How is this possible when the tech press and Apple fans spokesperson John Gruber hate the watch? /s
Like today Gruber pissed all over 3D Touch so naturally Business Insider had to declare that "Apple fans" have finally come to realize it's a gimmick. Of course Gruber also prefers the iPhone SE so I suppose that means "Apple fans" don't like larger screen phones now? What a bunch of asshats.
where did Gruber piss all over 3D Touch?
Gruber and Jason Snell. But anything Gruber posts the wider tech media equates to being indicative of all Apple fans. Sorry Gruber doesn't speak for me. I use 3D Touch every day, and no I don't think it's a gimmick. I did notice they're getting pushback on Twitter from people who do use it, and use it A LOT.
But this is a guy who openly admits he doesn't love his Watch and definitely doesn't wear it every day yet when he interviewed Phil Schiller at WWDC he made sure he had it on. As an Watch owner if you're not wearing it every day I don't see what the point of wearing it at all is. And wearing it just because you're sitting next to Phil Schiller is a bit disingenuous to me.
I like my Watch a lot, and it has become a normal part of my life. sog35's list of use cases almost exactly mirror mine.
But I've had a couple of issues. Siri stopped working a couple of months ago, and multiple support calls have not resolved it (may have to send it in). The speed of software updates and syncing needs improvement (especially given the fact that there have been fairly frequent updates in the last six months). Music syncing takes way too long (it takes about a half hour to update or sync my almost 2 GBs of music). And finally, 36-42 hours of battery life under normal use would be just brilliant, especially during long distance travels so that I do not have to worry about re-charging.
All that said, I cannot imagine being without my AppleWatch.
I didn't buy the first generation, because I'm familiar with Apple's products going way back. I expect we'll see some significant improvements with this. I expect to buy it this time around.
sog35 said: But like I said if you don't own one you won't understand. IMO its well worth the $250 I paid for it.
1. I never miss calls/text anymore. This is VERY important for my personal and business life. Before I would miss calls because I could not hear/feel my phone in my pocket or on my desk.
2. Quick reply's to text messages
3. Ability to leave phone your phone in another room and still receive calls.
4. Activity tracker
5. Mini music remote for AppleTV
6. Quick check on sports scores/weather without reaching for my phone
7. Setting up reminders during the day with Siri. I use to set up reminders with my iPhone but many times I would miss the reminders for some reason. You won't miss it with a Watch.
8. Use it as a remote to take pictures with an iPhone
9. Use it as a remote when I take a shower to adjust volume/song
Is it worth it? For me it is. To me the Watch is like a mini personal assistant.
I agree - it's usefulness is hard to convey to someone who doesn't have the Apple watch, as it's the sum total of all the things it does. It has been more than worth it for both my wife and myself. Some of the things the watch does for me are small things that make life flow a bit easier. Other have given me the ability to do things I couldn't do prior to the watch.
You covered most of the things I find useful. One missing, is the turn by turn navigation feature - it has been very useful when traveling in other countries where pick pockets are prevalent. Able to keep the phones tucked safely away, while getting the silent cues from the watch. This gave an unexpected freedom which made us far more "available" to our environment and open to divert to interesting pathways we might never have noticed - our heads were up taking in the sights rather than checking a screen.
Another thing I find useful is how easy it is to call one of my "favorites" - Even when I want the privacy offered by the phone, I find it far easier to start the call with the watch, and once initiated, transfer to the phone.
I agree on the issue of missing phone calls. There have been dozens of times where I would have otherwise missed a call were it not for the watch. Not that I couldn't live without receiving the call, but "connecting" immediately with the caller has allowed solutions to happen without spilling over to the next day.
The Workout app, by itself, has been worth the cost of the watch as it's allowed me to tune my workouts to match my goals while enjoying the workouts more - stopped doing activities I didn't enjoy once I found I got bigger gains doing things I actually enjoy. Measure and Modify is the name of the game.
I wouldn't say I couldn't live without it, as there are very few things that fit in that category - glad I don't have to make the choice.
I rather like my gen 1 watch. They'd have to do something pretty nice with gen2 to get me to upgrade before it's time is due. Watches are not phones, people generally hold onto them a very long time.
I know what you mean. I've had my 42mm WATCH SPORT Space Gray since last April. But you know why I plan to buy the gen 2 model on day one again? Because I'm in love with the matt Gold annodized aluminum body with the Midnight Blue band WATCH SPORT introduced in September. Can't wait!
I think too many folks have underestimated the level of constraint that Apple exercised when defining the core feature set of the Apple Watch
They should print this on the side of the box. That should help get above 8% penetration. "Hey, it doesn't do much, but we meant to do that".
I think too many folks realize that there are cheaper options if they want notifications and fitness tracking, and that AW falls short of those same options in waterproofing and battery life.
Love my Apple Watch with the space black stainless steel band. If the next version has an always on visible watch face (obviously much longer battery life) and is a tad thinner, I'll buy it. And if it has none of those features, I'll buy it anyway.
How is this possible when the tech press and Apple fans spokesperson John Gruber hate the watch? /s
Like today Gruber pissed all over 3D Touch so naturally Business Insider had to declare that "Apple fans" have finally come to realize it's a gimmick. Of course Gruber also prefers the iPhone SE so I suppose that means "Apple fans" don't like larger screen phones now? What a bunch of asshats.
I don't think Gruber pissed all over 3D Touch, just Peek & Pop which I kinda agree with him since it's useless for me. I couldn't see how it will be useful when I watched the keynote and to this day I'm still not using it. It just doesn't feel natural (and doesn't save any time). I'm glad he put forth his thought on this so Apple could develop 3D Touch to its potential. Pressing the app icon to get certain shortcuts however I'm using that from time to time.
Count me in too. I've been wanting an Watch for a while now. But I always wait for at least the second generation of a new Apple product line, because they're usually much improved over first-gen versions. Its also why I'm waiting for the second-gen iPad Pro 12.9" to be hopefully released towards the end of the year too. I could also make use of an TV, but the current 4th gen model is truly lacklustre and the most disappointing Apple product in years! Its officially referred to as 4th gen, but its so different than previous versions its really a first-gen product, so I'll wait for the second-gen version of this '4th gen' device before putting my money down. Also this year I'm likely upgrading from my 5S to a 7. So I could be putting down a bucket load of dosh on new Apple product this year!
The watch is a curious thing. The iPhone is an easier sell because it has a very engaging visual user interface. It is as if you live reality through the iPhone screen. Not so much with the watch. Its success is measured by you not having to be engaged with technology all the time, like we annoyingly have with the iPhone.
A thinner body with better battery life is indeed feasible, if Apple manages to simplify the User Interface of the Watch and have its focus on a few core features.
If the bands are compatible (and it looks like they will be) then I'd be interested in upgrading. Going to keep my original SS model until it's retro chic though.
Nothing that is powered by a Li-ion battery can likely become retro as they will most likely be non-functional by the time that happens. You could perhaps try buying a replacement battery and storing it in an air-tight container in a freezer.
I think too many folks have underestimated the level of constraint that Apple exercised when defining the core feature set of the Apple Watch
They should print this on the side of the box. That should help get above 8% penetration. "Hey, it doesn't do much, but we meant to do that".
I think too many folks realize that there are cheaper options if they want notifications and fitness tracking, and that AW falls short of those same options in waterproofing and battery life.
PEople swim with and take the shower, so not much of an inconvenience hey. You're probably shortening its life a bit by swimming (but not with the shower, but people that do that are seemingly not much bothered about that).
Cheaper but looks are a turd, yup they sure have that market covered.
Battery life is as any smart watch with the same level of functionality; it's like you are obsessed with a problem it doesn't have. How is finishing the day at 30-50% (for the 42mm) a problem?
The fact it crushes on sales and certainly on profits (Probably over 95%) sees to have eluded you.
I have a few Watches now but will buy v2 when it's available. It won't be an upgrade- it'll be an addition. I expect that it will be faster and that there will be some change in the form factor. That's good enough for me.
Things I'd like to see are different Watch faces for both v.1 and v.2 shipping with watchOS 3. Longer battery life would be nice, but I'm doing very well as is. More bands would be good, too. I don't care much for the nylon bands since they were rumored to be 'NATO' style bands. That got my hopes up.
Saying that not wearing a Watch every day means you may as well not wear one at all is total bullshit. That shows little more imagination than the ass@s who say they don't know why there is a Watch.
I have several nice analog non-smartwatches that I like to wear. They are far more attractive than my Watches (one of the reasons I want Apple to up the Watchface game). I can see that some people really want or even need to be 'connected' every single day. That's not me. One of my Watches is on my wrist 4-5 out of 7 days. There are days when I know a Watch won't be needed, or I just want to take an analog break.
Then there're those who just "can't imagine' why anyone would buy an Apple Watch or what it could possibly be used for. WTF. How stupid can someone possibly be. Or maybe it's troll-arrogance.
I bought the Watch, first generation, one Day One as I'm familiar with Apple products from way back. Some people prefer to wait, and I get that, too. Not me.
There will be something different about v.2. That's all I need. Something in SS Black with some kind of non-Sport black band.
How is this possible when the tech press and Apple fans spokesperson John Gruber hate the watch? /s
Like today Gruber pissed all over 3D Touch so naturally Business Insider had to declare that "Apple fans" have finally come to realize it's a gimmick. Of course Gruber also prefers the iPhone SE so I suppose that means "Apple fans" don't like larger screen phones now? What a bunch of asshats.
I don't think Gruber pissed all over 3D Touch, just Peek & Pop which I kinda agree with him since it's useless for me. I couldn't see how it will be useful when I watched the keynote and to this day I'm still not using it. It just doesn't feel natural (and doesn't save any time). I'm glad he put forth his thought on this so Apple could develop 3D Touch to its potential. Pressing the app icon to get certain shortcuts however I'm using that from time to time.
Wel'll have to agree to disagree. If Apple listened to tech press/Apple bloggers we wouldn't have the watch or the new MacBook. I think general consumers are more willing to try things out and come in with less biases. I remember listening to a podcast with Jim Dalrymple and Dan Benjamin right after Dan got an Watch. He couldn't figure out why the meme was the watch is confusing b/c he had no trouble setting it up and using it. I'm the same way. The watch has never been confusing for me. Even force touch, which some in the tech press have complained about...not difficult to hard press the screen to see if the app uses a contextual menu. And eventual you remember which ones do and don't. On and there's no visual clue for long press but nobody seems to complain about that.
If the new watch is waterproof I will upgrade to it.
People already use it in the shower, surfing and swimming (even swimming in the ocean, though its a bigger gamble because of salt), so how much more waterproof do you need it. The thing some people say are a bit absurd.
It's IPX7, that's equvalent to what most Garmin GPS were until a few years ago, and people have used those watches in pretty rough places too.
Apple Insider PLEASE fix your AI App on iPhone, its AWFUL. comment function is abysmal & simply doesnt work.
Now for my comment. Watch has a great operating function, very smooth & you can set to suit your needs. I however dont use the music control app, rarely use the phone calls, messages etc. my BBC news & email apps tell me a few words before saying get your phone out to read more. twitter however is great. Health functions were the main strong point for me as no requirement for chest rate strap. However my big problem with it & apple now are its locked down approach to iTunes. My story below..
a month ago late at night my phone said update your Passcode which i did. the next morning it asked for it (i was gardening so dirty fingers wouldnt work on the finger print thingy) after 10 attempts it wiped the phone. I was not amused at all. connected to Mac & it asked for a password to back up. What password i asked myself ! i was not aware i had created a password for it. I tried all passwords i had written down on my 'password scrap paper booklet' but nothing worked. i factory reset my phone as i read somewhere that this would bypass the pin code on restart but no luck.
So to cut a story short, yes its my fault i didnt write down the pasword i apparently set a year or two ago or the new Pin (which i never write down anyway). without this password I had to repair the watch to my phone losing the last month of health data. as i cant get my backup back ive lost 9 months of health app data, all my last years photos (which i thought itunes made a backup) all my notes from iPhone & any relevant app data. So my watch is now being traded in & i'll be buying a Garmin 235 watch where it can track my running for 8 hours straight (handy for ultra marathons) & it'll also be able to give me a week minimum of battery life (doing daily exercises too) with GPS, tracked runs onto Garmin Connect, 24/7 heart rate tracking, sleep tracking, message, email & phone notifications.
Dont get me wrong my experience with the watch was enjoyable while it lasted but this password nonsense and the "has to go thru iTunes" approach is just a stoneage approach in a modern world. It has made me realise that i wont be blowing my money wad at the next new iphone on launch day as the more 'so called' modern technology in life just makes things more complicated. I dont need the most up to date tech, i'd rather have something that just works & isnt updated & so called improved every 6 months.
Gruber and Jason Snell. But anything Gruber posts the wider tech media equates to being indicative of all Apple fans. Sorry Gruber doesn't speak for me. I use 3D Touch every day, and no I don't think it's a gimmick. I did notice they're getting pushback on Twitter from people who do use it, and use it A LOT.
But this is a guy who openly admits he doesn't love his Watch and definitely doesn't wear it every day yet when he interviewed Phil Schiller at WWDC he made sure he had it on. As an Watch owner if you're not wearing it every day I don't see what the point of wearing it at all is. And wearing it just because you're sitting next to Phil Schiller is a bit disingenuous to me.
I think Gruber doesn't wear his AW for a couple reasons -- he's a watch enthusiast, he's on his Mac at home all day, and he isn't physically active. but I wouldn't infer that he doesn't like AW; he joked on a recent podcast about people thinking they know what he thinks about stuff when they don't (I think it was about the AW itself but don't recall).
but i think they're right about Peek -- in safari at least, it's useless.
If the bands are compatible (and it looks like they will be) then I'd be interested in upgrading. Going to keep my original SS model until it's retro chic though.
Nothing that is powered by a Li-ion battery can likely become retro as they will most likely be non-functional by the time that happens. You could perhaps try buying a replacement battery and storing it in an air-tight container in a freezer.
I think third parties will make li-ion batteries for decades. service will be obtainable.
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But this is a guy who openly admits he doesn't love his Watch and definitely doesn't wear it every day yet when he interviewed Phil Schiller at WWDC he made sure he had it on. As an Watch owner if you're not wearing it every day I don't see what the point of wearing it at all is. And wearing it just because you're sitting next to Phil Schiller is a bit disingenuous to me.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/04/08/snell-3d-touch
But I've had a couple of issues. Siri stopped working a couple of months ago, and multiple support calls have not resolved it (may have to send it in). The speed of software updates and syncing needs improvement (especially given the fact that there have been fairly frequent updates in the last six months). Music syncing takes way too long (it takes about a half hour to update or sync my almost 2 GBs of music). And finally, 36-42 hours of battery life under normal use would be just brilliant, especially during long distance travels so that I do not have to worry about re-charging.
All that said, I cannot imagine being without my AppleWatch.
Some of the things the watch does for me are small things that make life flow a bit easier. Other have given me the ability to do things I couldn't do prior to the watch.
You covered most of the things I find useful. One missing, is the turn by turn navigation feature - it has been very useful when traveling in other countries where pick pockets are prevalent. Able to keep the phones tucked safely away, while getting the silent cues from the watch. This gave an unexpected freedom which made us far more "available" to our environment and open to divert to interesting pathways we might never have noticed - our heads were up taking in the sights rather than checking a screen.
Another thing I find useful is how easy it is to call one of my "favorites" - Even when I want the privacy offered by the phone, I find it far easier to start the call with the watch, and once initiated, transfer to the phone.
I agree on the issue of missing phone calls. There have been dozens of times where I would have otherwise missed a call were it not for the watch. Not that I couldn't live without receiving the call, but "connecting" immediately with the caller has allowed solutions to happen without spilling over to the next day.
The Workout app, by itself, has been worth the cost of the watch as it's allowed me to tune my workouts to match my goals while enjoying the workouts more - stopped doing activities I didn't enjoy once I found I got bigger gains doing things I actually enjoy. Measure and Modify is the name of the game.
I wouldn't say I couldn't live without it, as there are very few things that fit in that category - glad I don't have to make the choice.
It's impact has been impressive
I think too many folks realize that there are cheaper options if they want notifications and fitness tracking, and that AW falls short of those same options in waterproofing and battery life.
Pressing the app icon to get certain shortcuts however I'm using that from time to time.
A thinner body with better battery life is indeed feasible, if Apple manages to simplify the User Interface of the Watch and have its focus on a few core features.
I am looking forward to watch 2
>:x
You're probably shortening its life a bit by swimming (but not with the shower, but people that do that are seemingly not much bothered about that).
Cheaper but looks are a turd, yup they sure have that market covered.
Battery life is as any smart watch with the same level of functionality; it's like you are obsessed with a problem it doesn't have.
How is finishing the day at 30-50% (for the 42mm) a problem?
The fact it crushes on sales and certainly on profits (Probably over 95%) sees to have eluded you.
Things I'd like to see are different Watch faces for both v.1 and v.2 shipping with watchOS 3. Longer battery life would be nice, but I'm doing very well as is. More bands would be good, too. I don't care much for the nylon bands since they were rumored to be 'NATO' style bands. That got my hopes up.
Saying that not wearing a Watch every day means you may as well not wear one at all is total bullshit. That shows little more imagination than the ass@s who say they don't know why there is a Watch.
I have several nice analog non-smartwatches that I like to wear. They are far more attractive than my Watches (one of the reasons I want Apple to up the Watchface game). I can see that some people really want or even need to be 'connected' every single day. That's not me. One of my Watches is on my wrist 4-5 out of 7 days. There are days when I know a Watch won't be needed, or I just want to take an analog break.
Then there're those who just "can't imagine' why anyone would buy an Apple Watch or what it could possibly be used for. WTF. How stupid can someone possibly be. Or maybe it's troll-arrogance.
I bought the Watch, first generation, one Day One as I'm familiar with Apple products from way back. Some people prefer to wait, and I get that, too. Not me.
There will be something different about v.2. That's all I need. Something in SS Black with some kind of non-Sport black band.
It's IPX7, that's equvalent to what most Garmin GPS were until a few years ago, and people have used those watches in pretty rough places too.
Now for my comment. Watch has a great operating function, very smooth & you can set to suit your needs. I however dont use the music control app, rarely use the phone calls, messages etc. my BBC news & email apps tell me a few words before saying get your phone out to read more. twitter however is great. Health functions were the main strong point for me as no requirement for chest rate strap. However my big problem with it & apple now are its locked down approach to iTunes. My story below..
a month ago late at night my phone said update your Passcode which i did. the next morning it asked for it (i was gardening so dirty fingers wouldnt work on the finger print thingy) after 10 attempts it wiped the phone. I was not amused at all. connected to Mac & it asked for a password to back up. What password i asked myself ! i was not aware i had created a password for it. I tried all passwords i had written down on my 'password scrap paper booklet' but nothing worked. i factory reset my phone as i read somewhere that this would bypass the pin code on restart but no luck.
So to cut a story short, yes its my fault i didnt write down the pasword i apparently set a year or two ago or the new Pin (which i never write down anyway). without this password I had to repair the watch to my phone losing the last month of health data. as i cant get my backup back ive lost 9 months of health app data, all my last years photos (which i thought itunes made a backup) all my notes from iPhone & any relevant app data.
So my watch is now being traded in & i'll be buying a Garmin 235 watch where it can track my running for 8 hours straight (handy for ultra marathons) & it'll also be able to give me a week minimum of battery life (doing daily exercises too) with GPS, tracked runs onto Garmin Connect, 24/7 heart rate tracking, sleep tracking, message, email & phone notifications.
Dont get me wrong my experience with the watch was enjoyable while it lasted but this password nonsense and the "has to go thru iTunes" approach is just a stoneage approach in a modern world. It has made me realise that i wont be blowing my money wad at the next new iphone on launch day as the more 'so called' modern technology in life just makes things more complicated. I dont need the most up to date tech, i'd rather have something that just works & isnt updated & so called improved every 6 months.
but i think they're right about Peek -- in safari at least, it's useless.