Is that why they came out with an entirely new MacBook last year?
Well they came out very late in comparison to the competition. Not talking about no Mac Pro since 2013 or soldered ram in the iMac with 5400 rpm!!!! hard drive. Premium prize usually means better in any way. Not ripping your loyal customers off. They've lost the video market, what's next?
The Mac Pro is the only real problem I see here. You have plenty of choices with iMacs. I just bought my daughter a new late 2015 27" iMac, with a 1TB SSD. There are 4 memory slots, which you should know, if you knew anything about these iMacs. They haven't lost the video market.
Well they came out very late in comparison to the competition. Not talking about no Mac Pro since 2013 or soldered ram in the iMac with 5400 rpm!!!! hard drive. Premium prize usually means better in any way. Not ripping your loyal customers off. They've lost the video market, what's next?
The Mac Pro is the only real problem I see here. You have plenty of choices with iMacs. I just bought my daughter a new late 2015 27" iMac, with a 1TB SSD. There are 4 memory slots, which you should know, if you knew anything about these iMacs. They haven't lost the video market.
Its also outdated along with the Mac mini, and MacBook Pro(s). The entire lineup with the exception of the MacBook is a real problem. Maybe your daughter sees it as fine, but you cannot deny their lineup is getting long in the tooth. Its not just the Mac lineup itself, but also the accessories for the Mac as well. When was the last time the 27" Thunderbolt display was updated? Why not release another display and make the 27" cheaper? When was the airport lineup updated (about 2yrs ago so you don't have to look)?
Why has the iMac used the same basic design since 2007 when the original aluminum iMac was released? Why hasn't the MacBook Pro changed its design since it was introduced back in 2008? I see this as a very stale design now. Apple never used to be like this. Its lost its focus on the Mac platform to focus on other things like iOS devices and watches.
Well they came out very late in comparison to the competition. Not talking about no Mac Pro since 2013 or soldered ram in the iMac with 5400 rpm!!!! hard drive. Premium prize usually means better in any way. Not ripping your loyal customers off. They've lost the video market, what's next?
The Mac Pro is the only real problem I see here. You have plenty of choices with iMacs. I just bought my daughter a new late 2015 27" iMac, with a 1TB SSD. There are 4 memory slots, which you should know, if you knew anything about these iMacs. They haven't lost the video market.
@melgross, you know exactly what he's talking about. Instead, you're being condescending and presume ignorance of those who disagree with you. It's common knowledge, like the RAM ports on the 27" iMac, that by now the Macbook Pro, iMac, Mac Mini and Mac Pro have gotten long in the tooth.
Video market, you say? Funny, because spec-wise iMacs have crappy overheating laptop dGPUs stretched to address the needs of a 5K display (or no dGPUs at all), MacBooks (all but the high-end 15" MacBook Pro) only have iGPUs (with the dGPU in the top end 15" MBP being very mid-range) and Mac Pro has a workstation GPU that was OK-ish even during the time it was released. Graphics & video professionals are willing to pay extra for a premium product, but when they feel ripped off they won't hesitate to go elsewhere. And they already are. Unless your daughter does matte painting on NUKE or Rhino v-ray mockups for a production studio on her iMac, I'd suggest you revisit the validity of your statement.
Macs were beasts until just recently. They were mostly used for graphics and video editing for a reason. Nowadays, however, Apple seems to be 1) exclusively focusing on iOS devices, 2) falling into the trap that design is merely about aesthetics -and rose gold. I'm tentatively optimistic for WWDC, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.
Ok, very good. Some useful ideas, good suggestions for Apples cash pile; I didn't know about EPIC integration.
Anyone who used EPIC knows that it is an epic fail of clusterfuck proportions; but never mind that, higher management - without any factual knowledge, or intelligence - decides to buy and use such systems. (Some hospitals went bankrupt on it and the introduction of the system takes out a complete hospital for a month or so, let alone the enormous cost associated with buying this epic fail.) But nevertheless it's nice to know there is a glimmer of hope it might be a bit usable in the future.
But more to the point, I would like iMessage to work, nowedays only half of the messages arrive at the destination (but iMessage claims its 100% while sending). So, I had to switch to WhatsApp. I don't think adding Siri to the mix will improve things, but a unified system wide NLP engine for search would.
Xcode is a respectable developer tool, and improving it is essential, but I do think that it isn't heading in the right direction. I would like to see (easy) code development in swift only, without (or outside) Xcode (think of Smalltalk, you know, the environment Apple based its Mac interface on). I know this is currently possible because I created functional GUI programs (with Apples APIs) on the Mac from the command line with swift sources and swiftc only, but this isn't very easy to do.
Apple should make iOS compatible for Mac OS X apps. This can be done by using Safari like UI tricks and ARM compiled Mac OS X apps (actually pressure sensitive screens make things easier). This would be a real game changer.
Mac OS (X) should ditch its file system and replace it with an ultra fast database driven by the NLP engine mentioned above (file systems are so UNIX 70's, come on!).
On the hardware side, I would like Apple to switch to ARM only, and define the new PC hardware reference (NPCR) based on it, so hardware prices drop an order of magnitude. The NPCR should include fast interfaces and direct addressable bulk ram (previously known as hard disks) and so on.
The Mac Pro is the only real problem I see here. You have plenty of choices with iMacs. I just bought my daughter a new late 2015 27" iMac, with a 1TB SSD. There are 4 memory slots, which you should know, if you knew anything about these iMacs. They haven't lost the video market.
Its also outdated along with the Mac mini, and MacBook Pro(s). The entire lineup with the exception of the MacBook is a real problem. Maybe your daughter sees it as fine, but you cannot deny their lineup is getting long in the tooth. Its not just the Mac lineup itself, but also the accessories for the Mac as well. When was the last time the 27" Thunderbolt display was updated? Why not release another display and make the 27" cheaper? When was the airport lineup updated (about 2yrs ago so you don't have to look)?
Why has the iMac used the same basic design since 2007 when the original aluminum iMac was released? Why hasn't the MacBook Pro changed its design since it was introduced back in 2008? I see this as a very stale design now. Apple never used to be like this. Its lost its focus on the Mac platform to focus on other things like iOS devices and watches.
My daughter is a 25 year old professional fashion and product photographer who also does professional video editing. The 27" iMac is considered to be one of the best computers for those tasks, and has one of the best screens. The iMac doesn't have the same design as when it came out in 2007.
the Macbook Pro isn't outdated either. It gets it's yearly upgrades, and will be getting them soon. The Mini is a strange duck. It's very,popular in hotels, big hotel casinos and cruise ships, all of which can use doesn't to hundreds. It's become more of a specialty device than a consumer device.
I'm not sure you know much about what you're talking about here.
The Mac Pro is the only real problem I see here. You have plenty of choices with iMacs. I just bought my daughter a new late 2015 27" iMac, with a 1TB SSD. There are 4 memory slots, which you should know, if you knew anything about these iMacs. They haven't lost the video market.
@melgross, you know exactly what he's talking about. Instead, you're being condescending and presume ignorance of those who disagree with you. It's common knowledge, like the RAM ports on the 27" iMac, that by now the Macbook Pro, iMac, Mac Mini and Mac Pro have gotten long in the tooth.
Video market, you say? Funny, because spec-wise iMacs have crappy overheating laptop dGPUs stretched to address the needs of a 5K display (or no dGPUs at all), MacBooks (all but the high-end 15" MacBook Pro) only have iGPUs (with the dGPU in the top end 15" MBP being very mid-range) and Mac Pro has a workstation GPU that was OK-ish even during the time it was released. Graphics & video professionals are willing to pay extra for a premium product, but when they feel ripped off they won't hesitate to go elsewhere. And they already are. Unless your daughter does matte painting on NUKE or Rhino v-ray mockups for a production studio on her iMac, I'd suggest you revisit the validity of your statement.
Macs were beasts until just recently. They were mostly used for graphics and video editing for a reason. Nowadays, however, Apple seems to be 1) exclusively focusing on iOS devices, 2) falling into the trap that design is merely about aesthetics -and rose gold. I'm tentatively optimistic for WWDC, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.
Oh please, don't start with me. You're being a wise guy here. Do t do it.
Mac OS (X) should ditch its file system and replace it with an ultra fast database driven by the NLP engine mentioned above (file systems are so UNIX 70's, come on!).
On the hardware side, I would like Apple to switch to ARM only, and define the new PC hardware reference (NPCR) based on it, so hardware prices drop an order of magnitude. The NPCR should include fast interfaces and direct addressable bulk ram (previously known as hard disks) and so on.
I think those two would involve the sort of compatibility breaks that push us in to Apple OS 11 from OS X.
I’ve been whining about this every year since iOS 3, but gawd I wish there was a way to customize the lockscreen. Weather, just give me the damn weather at a glance.
Don't forget GF's location!
you can pull down the top menu from the lock screen and put in weather and friends locations in it.
The Mac Pro is the only real problem I see here. You have plenty of choices with iMacs. I just bought my daughter a new late 2015 27" iMac, with a 1TB SSD. There are 4 memory slots, which you should know, if you knew anything about these iMacs. They haven't lost the video market.
Its also outdated along with the Mac mini, and MacBook Pro(s). The entire lineup with the exception of the MacBook is a real problem. Maybe your daughter sees it as fine, but you cannot deny their lineup is getting long in the tooth. Its not just the Mac lineup itself, but also the accessories for the Mac as well. When was the last time the 27" Thunderbolt display was updated? Why not release another display and make the 27" cheaper? When was the airport lineup updated (about 2yrs ago so you don't have to look)?
Why has the iMac used the same basic design since 2007 when the original aluminum iMac was released? Why hasn't the MacBook Pro changed its design since it was introduced back in 2008? I see this as a very stale design now. Apple never used to be like this. Its lost its focus on the Mac platform to focus on other things like iOS devices and watches.
you don't understand how Apple rolls. they/Ive have said it many times -- they don't do change for change's sake. if it doesn't improve the device, they aren't going to change the design. but you're wrong anyway, today's iMacs are a different case design than, say, my 2011. the unibody MBPs have gone thru some iterations as well.
design isnt just how something looks. it's how it works.
The Mac Pro is the only real problem I see here. You have plenty of choices with iMacs. I just bought my daughter a new late 2015 27" iMac, with a 1TB SSD. There are 4 memory slots, which you should know, if you knew anything about these iMacs. They haven't lost the video market.
@melgross, you know exactly what he's talking about. Instead, you're being condescending and presume ignorance of those who disagree with you. It's common knowledge, like the RAM ports on the 27" iMac, that by now the Macbook Pro, iMac, Mac Mini and Mac Pro have gotten long in the tooth.
Video market, you say? Funny, because spec-wise iMacs have crappy overheating laptop dGPUs stretched to address the needs of a 5K display (or no dGPUs at all), MacBooks (all but the high-end 15" MacBook Pro) only have iGPUs (with the dGPU in the top end 15" MBP being very mid-range) and Mac Pro has a workstation GPU that was OK-ish even during the time it was released. Graphics & video professionals are willing to pay extra for a premium product, but when they feel ripped off they won't hesitate to go elsewhere. And they already are. Unless your daughter does matte painting on NUKE or Rhino v-ray mockups for a production studio on her iMac, I'd suggest you revisit the validity of your statement.
Macs were beasts until just recently. They were mostly used for graphics and video editing for a reason. Nowadays, however, Apple seems to be 1) exclusively focusing on iOS devices, 2) falling into the trap that design is merely about aesthetics -and rose gold. I'm tentatively optimistic for WWDC, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.
"Apple seems to be 1) exclusively focusing on iOS devices,"
Going forward, the focus on iOS & Swift will only become greater.
@melgross, you know exactly what he's talking about. Instead, you're being condescending and presume ignorance of those who disagree with you. It's common knowledge, like the RAM ports on the 27" iMac, that by now the Macbook Pro, iMac, Mac Mini and Mac Pro have gotten long in the tooth.
Video market, you say? Funny, because spec-wise iMacs have crappy overheating laptop dGPUs stretched to address the needs of a 5K display (or no dGPUs at all), MacBooks (all but the high-end 15" MacBook Pro) only have iGPUs (with the dGPU in the top end 15" MBP being very mid-range) and Mac Pro has a workstation GPU that was OK-ish even during the time it was released. Graphics & video professionals are willing to pay extra for a premium product, but when they feel ripped off they won't hesitate to go elsewhere. And they already are. Unless your daughter does matte painting on NUKE or Rhino v-ray mockups for a production studio on her iMac, I'd suggest you revisit the validity of your statement.
Macs were beasts until just recently. They were mostly used for graphics and video editing for a reason. Nowadays, however, Apple seems to be 1) exclusively focusing on iOS devices, 2) falling into the trap that design is merely about aesthetics -and rose gold. I'm tentatively optimistic for WWDC, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.
Oh please, don't start with me. You're being a wise guy here. Do t do it.
I'm not being wise any more than you're being purposefully obtuse. And I doubt the "purposefully" part.
Its also outdated along with the Mac mini, and MacBook Pro(s). The entire lineup with the exception of the MacBook is a real problem. Maybe your daughter sees it as fine, but you cannot deny their lineup is getting long in the tooth. Its not just the Mac lineup itself, but also the accessories for the Mac as well. When was the last time the 27" Thunderbolt display was updated? Why not release another display and make the 27" cheaper? When was the airport lineup updated (about 2yrs ago so you don't have to look)?
Why has the iMac used the same basic design since 2007 when the original aluminum iMac was released? Why hasn't the MacBook Pro changed its design since it was introduced back in 2008? I see this as a very stale design now. Apple never used to be like this. Its lost its focus on the Mac platform to focus on other things like iOS devices and watches.
My daughter is a 25 year old professional fashion and product photographer who also does professional video editing. The 27" iMac is considered to be one of the best computers for those tasks, and has one of the best screens. The iMac doesn't have the same design as when it came out in 2007.
the Macbook Pro isn't outdated either. It gets it's yearly upgrades, and will be getting them soon. The Mini is a strange duck. It's very,popular in hotels, big hotel casinos and cruise ships, all of which can use doesn't to hundreds. It's become more of a specialty device than a consumer device.
I'm not sure you know much about what you're talking about here.
Good for your daughter, is she the only individual informing your opinion? What software does she use?
The iMac has the same design since 2012 actually. It's an awesome screen with parity laptop hardware. Feel free to look it up. Unless one dishes out 5K to max out the 27" 5K like the good daddy that you are, it's beachball time for the rest of us users who'd rather have desktop class hardware for this price tag.
The Macbook Pro's only update in an entire annual cycle was bumped I/O speeds and a new trackpad. I mean, really. The Mini was a rather popular server choice, until it became completely nerfed by negligence. The new Macbook is a fabulous looking Facebook machine. Is there anything more to it? The Mac Pro.. yea, let's not even go there.
Do you honestly know what you're talking about yourself?
The NSA already records my calls. I don’t want them to have an easier time of it. Only when Siri processing is done without an Internet connection will I allow an open mic.
The idea’s nice, buy I value my security too much.
The NSA already records my calls. I don’t want them to have an easier time of it. Only when Siri processing is done without an Internet connection will I allow an open mic.
The idea’s nice, buy I value my security too much.
Doesn't Hey Siri rely on local hardware and voice print to activate? So it wouldn't record anything to send over the internet till then.
It is incridible that no journalist, nowhere and never, has written on the most embarrassing limitation of iOS for phone and iPad : the impossibility to sort photos by the title (or name) you can give them on OS X in iPhoto or in Photo. It is a great mystery that no one needs to name a photo. How come their is no way to read the metadatas of a picture and the name/title you are able to give them in a photo library ? This faillure of the Apple software makers is so mindbloging when you read that they have important teams of engineering and software specialists. But, even more, I still can not understand that this issue is NEVER dealt with.
Its also outdated along with the Mac mini, and MacBook Pro(s). The entire lineup with the exception of the MacBook is a real problem. Maybe your daughter sees it as fine, but you cannot deny their lineup is getting long in the tooth. Its not just the Mac lineup itself, but also the accessories for the Mac as well. When was the last time the 27" Thunderbolt display was updated? Why not release another display and make the 27" cheaper? When was the airport lineup updated (about 2yrs ago so you don't have to look)?
Why has the iMac used the same basic design since 2007 when the original aluminum iMac was released? Why hasn't the MacBook Pro changed its design since it was introduced back in 2008? I see this as a very stale design now. Apple never used to be like this. Its lost its focus on the Mac platform to focus on other things like iOS devices and watches.
My daughter is a 25 year old professional fashion and product photographer who also does professional video editing. The 27" iMac is considered to be one of the best computers for those tasks, and has one of the best screens. The iMac doesn't have the same design as when it came out in 2007.
the Macbook Pro isn't outdated either. It gets it's yearly upgrades, and will be getting them soon. The Mini is a strange duck. It's very,popular in hotels, big hotel casinos and cruise ships, all of which can use doesn't to hundreds. It's become more of a specialty device than a consumer device.
I'm not sure you know much about what you're talking about here.
Yes it does...it has the same BASIC design with the black bezeled glass and the aluminum chin (yes its shorter). That would be...the SAME BASIC DESIGN! Its basically looked the same since 2007 with a shorter chin. A small speed bump doesn't constitute as an upgrade. You totally ignored my point of the MacBook Pro looking the since forever ago. Nothing ever really changes except small speed bumps and crappy outdated graphics updates. If you want to be that way...then yes its looked the same since 2011. Thats still way too long to leave a design. Its getting stale looking.
I'm sorry, I don't really care what your daughter does, what she has, and if it works for her. She is not an authority on what makes a good Apple product, or denying the fact that Apple's Mac lineup is outdated really bad. She has nothing to do with the fact that Apple's Mac line is old.
Maybe Apple should release a crappy looking Rose Gold iMac...Yeah! That'll be totally different! /s
Real design change would be...like what they did with the Mac Pro. They kept the same principals of the Mac Pro, and made it something great and still looks arguably very nice and is still very functional. Why can't they spend time and do that with everything else? Instead, they're focused too much on iOS devices.
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Its also outdated along with the Mac mini, and MacBook Pro(s). The entire lineup with the exception of the MacBook is a real problem. Maybe your daughter sees it as fine, but you cannot deny their lineup is getting long in the tooth. Its not just the Mac lineup itself, but also the accessories for the Mac as well. When was the last time the 27" Thunderbolt display was updated? Why not release another display and make the 27" cheaper? When was the airport lineup updated (about 2yrs ago so you don't have to look)?
Why has the iMac used the same basic design since 2007 when the original aluminum iMac was released? Why hasn't the MacBook Pro changed its design since it was introduced back in 2008? I see this as a very stale design now. Apple never used to be like this. Its lost its focus on the Mac platform to focus on other things like iOS devices and watches.
Video market, you say? Funny, because spec-wise iMacs have crappy overheating laptop dGPUs stretched to address the needs of a 5K display (or no dGPUs at all), MacBooks (all but the high-end 15" MacBook Pro) only have iGPUs (with the dGPU in the top end 15" MBP being very mid-range) and Mac Pro has a workstation GPU that was OK-ish even during the time it was released. Graphics & video professionals are willing to pay extra for a premium product, but when they feel ripped off they won't hesitate to go elsewhere. And they already are. Unless your daughter does matte painting on NUKE or Rhino v-ray mockups for a production studio on her iMac, I'd suggest you revisit the validity of your statement.
Macs were beasts until just recently. They were mostly used for graphics and video editing for a reason. Nowadays, however, Apple seems to be 1) exclusively focusing on iOS devices, 2) falling into the trap that design is merely about aesthetics -and rose gold. I'm tentatively optimistic for WWDC, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.
Some useful ideas, good suggestions for Apples cash pile; I didn't know about EPIC integration.
Anyone who used EPIC knows that it is an epic fail of clusterfuck proportions; but never mind that, higher management - without any factual knowledge, or intelligence - decides to buy and use such systems.
(Some hospitals went bankrupt on it and the introduction of the system takes out a complete hospital for a month or so, let alone the enormous cost associated with buying this epic fail.)
But nevertheless it's nice to know there is a glimmer of hope it might be a bit usable in the future.
But more to the point, I would like iMessage to work, nowedays only half of the messages arrive at the destination (but iMessage claims its 100% while sending).
So, I had to switch to WhatsApp.
I don't think adding Siri to the mix will improve things, but a unified system wide NLP engine for search would.
Xcode is a respectable developer tool, and improving it is essential, but I do think that it isn't heading in the right direction. I would like to see (easy) code development in swift only, without (or outside) Xcode (think of Smalltalk, you know, the environment Apple based its Mac interface on).
I know this is currently possible because I created functional GUI programs (with Apples APIs) on the Mac from the command line with swift sources and swiftc only, but this isn't very easy to do.
Apple should make iOS compatible for Mac OS X apps. This can be done by using Safari like UI tricks and ARM compiled Mac OS X apps (actually pressure sensitive screens make things easier). This would be a real game changer.
Mac OS (X) should ditch its file system and replace it with an ultra fast database driven by the NLP engine mentioned above (file systems are so UNIX 70's, come on!).
On the hardware side, I would like Apple to switch to ARM only, and define the new PC hardware reference (NPCR) based on it, so hardware prices drop an order of magnitude.
The NPCR should include fast interfaces and direct addressable bulk ram (previously known as hard disks) and so on.
Want me to continue?
the Macbook Pro isn't outdated either. It gets it's yearly upgrades, and will be getting them soon. The Mini is a strange duck. It's very,popular in hotels, big hotel casinos and cruise ships, all of which can use doesn't to hundreds. It's become more of a specialty device than a consumer device.
I'm not sure you know much about what you're talking about here.
"Hey siri... I'd like you to record this call"
Siri "Does the caller agree to recording?"
Caller " Yes"
or "Hey Siri.... when are we both free for lunch?"
Siri "Thrusday at 12:30 or Firday at 1pm would you like to make an appointment?"
design isnt just how something looks. it's how it works.
Going forward, the focus on iOS & Swift will only become greater.
Good for your daughter, is she the only individual informing your opinion? What software does she use?
The Macbook Pro's only update in an entire annual cycle was bumped I/O speeds and a new trackpad. I mean, really.
The Mini was a rather popular server choice, until it became completely nerfed by negligence.
The new Macbook is a fabulous looking Facebook machine. Is there anything more to it?
The Mac Pro.. yea, let's not even go there.
Do you honestly know what you're talking about yourself?
The idea’s nice, buy I value my security too much.
So it wouldn't record anything to send over the internet till then.
This faillure of the Apple software makers is so mindbloging when you read that they have important teams of engineering and software specialists. But, even more, I still can not understand that this issue is NEVER dealt with.
"Hey, I'm not a doctor, so what on earth would I do with "Complete Anatomy" by 3D4Medical?" That's pretty much how you come across.
I'm sorry, I don't really care what your daughter does, what she has, and if it works for her. She is not an authority on what makes a good Apple product, or denying the fact that Apple's Mac lineup is outdated really bad. She has nothing to do with the fact that Apple's Mac line is old.
Maybe Apple should release a crappy looking Rose Gold iMac...Yeah! That'll be totally different! /s
Real design change would be...like what they did with the Mac Pro. They kept the same principals of the Mac Pro, and made it something great and still looks arguably very nice and is still very functional. Why can't they spend time and do that with everything else? Instead, they're focused too much on iOS devices.